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<div>[[Category:Boot process (Italiano)]]<br />
[[en:Bootchart]]<br />
[[fr:Bootchart]]<br />
[[zh-CN:Bootchart]]<br />
= Introduzione =<br />
<br />
Bootchart è un programma utilizzato per l'analisi dei processi d'avvio (ad esempio può essere utile per ottimizzare e velocizzare il boot).<br />
È composto dal demone bootchartd e da bootchart-render; una volta usato genererà una tabella per ogni avvio che fornisce indicazioni su come, quanto e quali processi sono in esecuzione, utilizzo di cpu, memoria e tempi di accesso al disco.<br />
<br />
= Installare bootchart =<br />
<br />
[[pacman|Installare]] {{grp|bootchart}}, pacchetto disponibile nel [[Official Repositories (Italiano)|repository ufficiale]].<br />
<br />
= Eseguire Bootchart =<br />
Per usare bootchart, va impostato come processo init nel gestore di avvio (ad esempio aggiungendo alla riga di avvio di GRUB 'init=/usr/bin/bootchartd') od avviarlo manualmente da uno degli script di init (preferibilmente {{ic|rc.sysinit}}). Nota che se avvii bootchartd manualmente, devi anche fermarlo manualmente. In generale, bisogna essere molto attenti con quest'ultimo metodo.<br />
<br />
== Impostazione Gestore di Avvio ==<br />
In generale si deve fare una copia delle opzioni di avvio che si vogliono usare (in questo modo si avrà sia la voce normale che con bootchart) ed aggiungervi {{ic|<nowiki>init=/usr/bin/bootchartd</nowiki>}}. Quando avviato dal gestore di avvio, bootchart si fermerà una volta arrivati al gestore di accesso.<br />
<br />
=== Grub ===<br />
Aprire {{ic|/boot/grub/menu.lst}}, e fare copia/incolla della voce di cui si vuole che bootchart generi un log. Aggiungere {{ic|<nowiki>init=/usr/bin/bootchartd</nowiki>}} alla riga del kernel. Esempio:<br />
<br />
# (1) Arch Linux Bootchart<br />
title Arch Linux<br />
root (hd0,0)<br />
kernel /vmlinuz-linux root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/d531ff5b-de65-499a-9942-d18682375163 ro quiet '''init=/usr/bin/bootchartd'''<br />
initrd /initramfs-linux.img<br />
<br />
=== Grub 2 ===<br />
Aprire {{ic|/boot/grub/grub.cfg}}, fare copia/incolla dell'opzione di avvio che si vuole usare e modificarla perché appaia così:<br />
<br />
# (0) Arch Linux<br />
menuentry "Arch Linux" {<br />
set root=(hd0,1)<br />
linux /boot/vmlinuz-linux root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet<br />
initrd /boot/initramfs-linux.img<br />
}<br />
# (1) Arch Linux with Bootchart<br />
menuentry "Arch Linux with Bootchart" {<br />
set root=(hd0,1)<br />
linux /boot/vmlinuz-linux root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet init=/usr/bin/bootchartd<br />
initrd /boot/initramfs-linux.img<br />
}<br />
<br />
Ora si può riavviare e scegliere la nuova opzione con bootchart.<br />
<br />
=== Lilo ===<br />
Da fare<br />
<br />
== impostazione rc.sysinit ==<br />
Questo è pericoloso (si può rendere arch inavviabile) - usarlo solo se l'altro metodo non funziona. Quando si usa questo metodo non solo si deve fermare bootchartd manualmente dopo l'avvio (o riempirà completamente il disco) ma partirà ogni volta che avvierai il computer. Inoltre ogni cambiamento a {{ic|/etc/rc.sysinit}} sarà annullato la prossima volta che verrà aggiornato il pacchetto initscripts.<br />
Una nota positiva è che così bootchart mostra cosa succede dopo l'accesso, ovvero darà un quadro completo del vero avvio di un sistema operativo, includendo il caricamento dell'ambiente di lavoro.<br />
<br />
=== Modificare /etc/rc.sysinit ===<br />
Bisogna modificare {{ic|/etc/rc.sysinit}} aggiungendo questa riga:<br />
/usr/bin/bootchartd start<br />
<br />
Non può essere messa molto in alto (ovvero all'inizio), perché pootrebbe rendere il sistema inavviabile, ma allo stesso tempo metterla molto in basso (ovvero alla fine) nello script nasconderà ogni cosa che succede prima dell'avviod di bootchart.<br />
Dovrebbe essere sicuro metterla appena prima della sezione che avvia l'orologio di sistema.<br />
Per farlo cercare questa riga:<br />
stat_busy "Configuring System Clock"<br />
E mettere<br />
/usr/bin/bootchartd start<br />
prima di essa.<br />
<br />
=== Fermare bootchartd dopo l'accesso ===<br />
Come scritto in precedenza, occorre fermare manualmente bootchartd (il demone di bootchart).<br />
Per farlo eseguire da root:<br />
/usr/bin/bootchartd stop<br />
Oppure da sudo se è stato impostato:<br />
sudo /usr/bin/bootchartd stop<br />
<br />
= Generare un grafico =<br />
Per generare un grafico, eseguire:<br />
bootchart-render<br />
in una cartella per cui si abbiano permessi di scrittura. Questo genererà un'immagine {{ic|bootchart.png}} col grafico.<br />
Occorre avere Java runtime installato ed appropiatamente impostato per poter fare il grafico.<br />
<br />
== Risoluzione problemi ==<br />
bootchart-render non può generare un'immagine 'bootchart.png' e mostra il seguente messaggio d'errore:<br />
/var/log/bootchart.tgz not found<br />
Probabilmente significa che bootchartd non è stato in grado di determinare quando il processo d'avvio è finito. Questo può succedere se si stanno usando gestori di accesso diversi da [[GDM]] o [[KDM]], come [[SLIM]] od altri. Occorre aprire lo script {{ic|/usr/bin/bootchartd}} ed aggiungere quelle applicazioni alla variabile {{ic|exit_proc}}, ad esempio:<br />
# The processes we have to wait for<br />
local exit_proc="gdmgreeter gdm-binary kdm_greet kdm slim"<br />
<br />
Se non si sta usando nessun gestore di accesso, modificare la variabile {{ic|exit_proc}} in questo modo:<br />
# The processes we have to wait for<br />
local exit_proc="login"<br />
<br />
== Esempi di bootchart ==<br />
=== Avvio in 5 secondi ===<br />
[http://lwn.net/Articles/299483/ Articolo di LWN sull'avvio veloce di netbooks]<br />
<br />
Questo articolo è davvero interessante ed insieme ad un mucchio di grafici fornisce qualche consiglio su come avviare più velocemente. Alcuni di quelle migliorie sono aldilà della portata dell'utente comune (mettere patch a X.org, al kernel, ecc...).<br />
<br />
= Collegamenti esterni =<br />
* [http://www.bootchart.org/ Bootchart home page]</div>Eduardohttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Bootchart_(Italiano)&diff=244303Bootchart (Italiano)2013-01-17T22:48:37Z<p>Eduardo: /* Eseguire Bootchart */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Category:Boot process (Italiano)]]<br />
[[en:Bootchart]]<br />
[[fr:Bootchart]]<br />
[[zh-CN:Bootchart]]<br />
= Introduzione =<br />
<br />
Bootchart è un programma utilizzato per l'analisi dei processi d'avvio (ad esempio può essere utile per ottimizzare e velocizzare il boot).<br />
È composto dal demone bootchartd e da bootchart-render; una volta usato genererà una tabella per ogni avvio che fornisce indicazioni su come, quanto e quali processi sono in esecuzione, utilizzo di cpu, memoria e tempi di accesso al disco.<br />
<br />
= Installare bootchart =<br />
<br />
[[pacman|Installare]] {{grp|bootchart}}, pacchetto disponibile nel [[Official Repositories (Italiano)|repository ufficiale]].<br />
<br />
= Eseguire Bootchart =<br />
Per usare bootchart, va impostato come processo init nel gestore di avvio (ad esempio aggiungendo alla riga di avvio di GRUB 'init=/usr/bin/bootchartd') od avviarlo manualmente da uno degli script di init (preferibilmente {{ic|rc.sysinit}}). Nota che se avvii bootchartd manualmente, devi anche fermarlo manualmente. In generale, bisogna essere molto attenti con quest'ultimo metodo.<br />
<br />
== Impostazione Gestore di Avvio ==<br />
In generale si deve fare una copia delle opzioni di avvio che si vogliono usare (in questo modo si avrà sia la voce normale che con bootchart) ed aggiungervi {{ic|<nowiki>init=/usr/bin/bootchartd</nowiki>}}. Quando avviato dal gestore di avvio, bootchart si fermerà una volta arrivati al gestore di accesso.<br />
<br />
=== Grub ===<br />
Aprire {{ic|/boot/grub/menu.lst}}, e fare copia/incolla della voce di cui si vuole che bootchart generi un log. Aggiungere {{ic|<nowiki>init=/usr/bin/bootchartd</nowiki>}} alla riga del kernel. Esempio:<br />
<br />
# (1) Arch Linux Bootchart<br />
title Arch Linux<br />
root (hd0,0)<br />
kernel /vmlinuz-linux root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/d531ff5b-de65-499a-9942-d18682375163 ro quiet '''init=/usr/bin/bootchartd'''<br />
initrd /initramfs-linux.img<br />
<br />
=== Grub 2 ===<br />
Aprire {{ic|/boot/grub/grub.cfg}}, fare copia/incolla dell'opzione di avvio che si vuole usare e modificarla perché appaia così:<br />
<br />
# (0) Arch Linux<br />
menuentry "Arch Linux" {<br />
set root=(hd0,1)<br />
linux /boot/vmlinuz-linux root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet<br />
initrd /boot/initramfs-linux.img<br />
}<br />
# (1) Arch Linux with Bootchart<br />
menuentry "Arch Linux with Bootchart" {<br />
set root=(hd0,1)<br />
linux /boot/vmlinuz-linux root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet init=/usr/bin/bootchartd<br />
initrd /boot/initramfs-linux.img<br />
}<br />
<br />
Ora si può riavviare e scegliere la nuova opzione con bootchart.<br />
<br />
=== Lilo ===<br />
Da fare<br />
<br />
== impostazione rc.sysinit ==<br />
Questo è pericoloso (si può rendere arch inavviabile) - usarlo solo se l'altro metodo non funziona. Quando si usa questo metodo non solo si deve fermare bootchartd manualmente dopo l'avvio (o riempirà completamente il disco) ma partirà ogni volta che avvierai il computer. Inoltre ogni cambiamento a {{ic|/etc/rc.sysinit}} sarà annullato la prossima volta che verrà aggiornato il pacchetto initscripts.<br />
Una nota positiva è che così bootchart mostra cosa succede dopo l'accesso, ovvero darà un quadro completo del vero avvio di un sistema operativo, includendo il caricamento dell'ambiente di lavoro.<br />
<br />
=== Modificare /etc/rc.sysinit ===<br />
Bisogna modificare {{ic|/etc/rc.sysinit}} aggiungendo questa riga:<br />
/usr/bin/bootchartd start<br />
<br />
Non può essere messa molto in alto (ovvero all'inizio), perché pootrebbe rendere il sistema inavviabile, ma allo stesso tempo metterla molto in basso (ovvero alla fine) nello script nasconderà ogni cosa che succede prima dell'avviod di bootchart.<br />
Dovrebbe essere sicuro metterla appena prima della sezione che avvia l'orologio di sistema.<br />
Per farlo cercare questa riga:<br />
stat_busy "Configuring System Clock"<br />
E mettere<br />
/usr/bin/bootchartd start<br />
prima di essa.<br />
<br />
=== Fermare bootchartd dopo l'accesso ===<br />
Come scritto in precedenza, occorre fermare manualmente bootchartd (il demone di bootchart).<br />
Per farlo eseguire da root:<br />
/usr/bin/bootchartd stop<br />
Oppure da sudo se è stato impostato:<br />
sudo /usr/bin/bootchartd stop<br />
<br />
= Generare un grafico =<br />
Per generare un grafico, eseguire:<br />
bootchart-render<br />
in una cartella per cui si abbiano permessi di scrittura. Questo genererà un'immagine {{ic|bootchart.png}} col grafico.<br />
Occorre avere Java runtime installato ed appropiatamente impostato per poter fare il grafico.<br />
<br />
== Risoluzione problemi ==<br />
bootchart-render non può generare un'immagine 'bootchart.png' e mostra il seguente messaggio d'errore:<br />
/var/log/bootchart.tgz not found<br />
Probabilmente significa che bootchartd non è stato in grado di determinare quando il processo d'avvio è finito. Questo può succedere se si stanno usando gestori di accesso diversi da [[GDM]] o [[KDM]], come [[SLIM]] od altri. Occorre aprire lo script {{ic|/sbin/bootchartd}} ed aggiungere quelle applicazioni alla variabile {{ic|exit_proc}}, ad esempio:<br />
# The processes we have to wait for<br />
local exit_proc="gdmgreeter gdm-binary kdm_greet kdm slim"<br />
<br />
Se non si sta usando nessun gestore di accesso, modificare la variabile {{ic|exit_proc}} in questo modo:<br />
# The processes we have to wait for<br />
local exit_proc="login"<br />
<br />
== Esempi di bootchart ==<br />
=== Avvio in 5 secondi ===<br />
[http://lwn.net/Articles/299483/ Articolo di LWN sull'avvio veloce di netbooks]<br />
<br />
Questo articolo è davvero interessante ed insieme ad un mucchio di grafici fornisce qualche consiglio su come avviare più velocemente. Alcuni di quelle migliorie sono aldilà della portata dell'utente comune (mettere patch a X.org, al kernel, ecc...).<br />
<br />
= Collegamenti esterni =<br />
* [http://www.bootchart.org/ Bootchart home page]</div>Eduardohttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Bootchart_(Italiano)&diff=244302Bootchart (Italiano)2013-01-17T22:47:11Z<p>Eduardo: /* installare bootchart */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Category:Boot process (Italiano)]]<br />
[[en:Bootchart]]<br />
[[fr:Bootchart]]<br />
[[zh-CN:Bootchart]]<br />
= Introduzione =<br />
<br />
Bootchart è un programma utilizzato per l'analisi dei processi d'avvio (ad esempio può essere utile per ottimizzare e velocizzare il boot).<br />
È composto dal demone bootchartd e da bootchart-render; una volta usato genererà una tabella per ogni avvio che fornisce indicazioni su come, quanto e quali processi sono in esecuzione, utilizzo di cpu, memoria e tempi di accesso al disco.<br />
<br />
= Installare bootchart =<br />
<br />
[[pacman|Installare]] {{grp|bootchart}}, pacchetto disponibile nel [[Official Repositories (Italiano)|repository ufficiale]].<br />
<br />
= Eseguire Bootchart =<br />
Per usare bootchart, va impostato come processo init nel gestore di avvio (ad esempio aggiungendo alla riga di avvio di GRUB 'init=/sbin/bootchartd') od avviarlo manualmente da uno degli script di init (preferibilmente {{ic|rc.sysinit}}). Nota che se avvii bootchartd manualmente, devi anche fermarlo manualmente. In generale, bisogna essere molto attenti con quest'ultimo metodo.<br />
<br />
== Impostazione Gestore di Avvio ==<br />
In generale si deve fare una copia delle opzioni di avvio che si vogliono usare (in questo modo si avrà sia la voce normale che con bootchart) ed aggiungervi {{ic|<nowiki>init=/sbin/bootchartd</nowiki>}}. Quando avviato dal gestore di avvio, bootchart si fermerà una volta arrivati al gestore di accesso.<br />
<br />
=== Grub ===<br />
Aprire {{ic|/boot/grub/menu.lst}}, e fare copia/incolla della voce di cui si vuole che bootchart generi un log. Aggiungere {{ic|<nowiki>init=/sbin/bootchartd</nowiki>}} alla riga del kernel. Esempio:<br />
<br />
# (1) Arch Linux Bootchart<br />
title Arch Linux<br />
root (hd0,0)<br />
kernel /vmlinuz-linux root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/d531ff5b-de65-499a-9942-d18682375163 ro quiet '''init=/sbin/bootchartd'''<br />
initrd /initramfs-linux.img<br />
<br />
=== Grub 2 ===<br />
Aprire {{ic|/boot/grub/grub.cfg}}, fare copia/incolla dell'opzione di avvio che si vuole usare e modificarla perché appaia così:<br />
<br />
# (0) Arch Linux<br />
menuentry "Arch Linux" {<br />
set root=(hd0,1)<br />
linux /boot/vmlinuz-linux root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet<br />
initrd /boot/initramfs-linux.img<br />
}<br />
# (1) Arch Linux with Bootchart<br />
menuentry "Arch Linux with Bootchart" {<br />
set root=(hd0,1)<br />
linux /boot/vmlinuz-linux root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet init=/sbin/bootchartd<br />
initrd /boot/initramfs-linux.img<br />
}<br />
<br />
Ora si può riavviare e scegliere la nuova opzione con bootchart.<br />
<br />
=== Lilo ===<br />
Da fare<br />
<br />
== impostazione rc.sysinit ==<br />
Questo è pericoloso (si può rendere arch inavviabile) - usarlo solo se l'altro metodo non funziona. Quando si usa questo metodo non solo si deve fermare bootchartd manualmente dopo l'avvio (o riempirà completamente il disco) ma partirà ogni volta che avvierai il computer. Inoltre ogni cambiamento a {{ic|/etc/rc.sysinit}} sarà annullato la prossima volta che verrà aggiornato il pacchetto initscripts.<br />
Una nota positiva è che così bootchart mostra cosa succede dopo l'accesso, ovvero darà un quadro completo del vero avvio di un sistema operativo, includendo il caricamento dell'ambiente di lavoro.<br />
<br />
=== Modificare /etc/rc.sysinit ===<br />
Bisogna modificare {{ic|/etc/rc.sysinit}} aggiungendo questa riga:<br />
/sbin/bootchartd start<br />
<br />
Non può essere messa molto in alto (ovvero all'inizio), perché pootrebbe rendere il sistema inavviabile, ma allo stesso tempo metterla molto in basso (ovvero alla fine) nello script nasconderà ogni cosa che succede prima dell'avviod di bootchart.<br />
Dovrebbe essere sicuro metterla appena prima della sezione che avvia l'orologio di sistema.<br />
Per farlo cercare questa riga:<br />
stat_busy "Configuring System Clock"<br />
E mettere<br />
/sbin/bootchartd start<br />
prima di essa.<br />
<br />
=== Fermare bootchartd dopo l'accesso ===<br />
Come scritto in precedenza, occorre fermare manualmente bootchartd (il demone di bootchart).<br />
Per farlo eseguire da root:<br />
/sbin/bootchartd stop<br />
Oppure da sudo se è stato impostato:<br />
sudo /sbin/bootchartd stop<br />
<br />
= Generare un grafico =<br />
Per generare un grafico, eseguire:<br />
bootchart-render<br />
in una cartella per cui si abbiano permessi di scrittura. Questo genererà un'immagine {{ic|bootchart.png}} col grafico.<br />
Occorre avere Java runtime installato ed appropiatamente impostato per poter fare il grafico.<br />
<br />
== Risoluzione problemi ==<br />
bootchart-render non può generare un'immagine 'bootchart.png' e mostra il seguente messaggio d'errore:<br />
/var/log/bootchart.tgz not found<br />
Probabilmente significa che bootchartd non è stato in grado di determinare quando il processo d'avvio è finito. Questo può succedere se si stanno usando gestori di accesso diversi da [[GDM]] o [[KDM]], come [[SLIM]] od altri. Occorre aprire lo script {{ic|/sbin/bootchartd}} ed aggiungere quelle applicazioni alla variabile {{ic|exit_proc}}, ad esempio:<br />
# The processes we have to wait for<br />
local exit_proc="gdmgreeter gdm-binary kdm_greet kdm slim"<br />
<br />
Se non si sta usando nessun gestore di accesso, modificare la variabile {{ic|exit_proc}} in questo modo:<br />
# The processes we have to wait for<br />
local exit_proc="login"<br />
<br />
== Esempi di bootchart ==<br />
=== Avvio in 5 secondi ===<br />
[http://lwn.net/Articles/299483/ Articolo di LWN sull'avvio veloce di netbooks]<br />
<br />
Questo articolo è davvero interessante ed insieme ad un mucchio di grafici fornisce qualche consiglio su come avviare più velocemente. Alcuni di quelle migliorie sono aldilà della portata dell'utente comune (mettere patch a X.org, al kernel, ecc...).<br />
<br />
= Collegamenti esterni =<br />
* [http://www.bootchart.org/ Bootchart home page]</div>Eduardohttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Thebishop&diff=170637User talk:Thebishop2011-11-20T00:28:31Z<p>Eduardo: </p>
<hr />
<div>== AUR Cleanup ==<br />
<br />
I've launched in the [aur-general] ML the idea of a cleanup.<br />
<br />
Why a cleanup? There are more than 6700 orphan packages, and 2400+ of them are out of date. Many of them are only waiting to be adopted by a new maintainer, but others have been replaced by something else and have to be removed.<br />
<br />
But what package have to be removed and what deserves a new maintainer?<br />
<br />
I think that a "just remove" policy is as bad as a "keep'em all" one.<br />
<br />
IMHO the right approach is to evaluate case-by-case what is right to do. There are packages with peculiar optimizations or packages that need a little work to be useful again and there are packages that have been left there just because the maintainer didn't know how to delete them.<br />
<br />
I think that the first step is to build a list of those, packages that have been abandoned because have been replaced by others.<br />
All the package remove proposals need to have proper motivations (for example "replaced by package XXX").<br />
<br />
As I've been suggested, I'm starting this discussion to build together the list of packages to remove and to collect ideas on how to proceed in this task. Maybe, while surfing that huge amount of packages, we can discover some interesting project that some of us may adopt.<br />
<br />
==== Work previously done ====<br />
An AUR cleanup was done in 2010, the [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_Cleanup_Day page used for that] continues to list applications that are not yet deleted. Would you have us edit and expand that list or would you have us build a new list here, perhaps including what is already available there. Good initiative. --[[User:Stefanwilkens|stefanwilkens]] 17:12, 7 November 2011 (EST)<br />
<br />
I think that here is the right place (for now), as this is a new "unofficial" initiative.<br />
Obviously if a TU launches a new similar campaign, I'll be glad to join the efforts on the "official" one.<br />
<br />
==== Finding Packages to Assess ====<br />
I've generated a huge list of about 2000 packages that have dead source links. It's only a preliminary list for now because it only covers 58% of the AUR packages, I have no idea how reliable the script is that generated it, a server may only be temporarily down and many packages may just be out of date. I plan on filtering it to just those that are orphans and in about a weeks time I'll generate another list and cross reference it with this one to try and filter out source links that were temporarily down and packages that were out of date. Anyway the list is here http://underrun.org/~gadget/dead-source-links.log [[User:Gadget3000|Gadget3000]] 06:50, 12 November 2011 (EST)<br />
<br />
Here is the list filtered to just those that are orphans. There about 900. http://underrun.org/~gadget/orphaned-dead-source-links.log [[User:Gadget3000|Gadget3000]] 08:01, 12 November 2011 (EST)<br />
<br />
== List of packages to be removed ==<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=41942 agnclient-1.0 2.0.1-3003] - Orphan, outdated, replaced by package [http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=41943 agnclient 1.0_2.0.1-7]<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18331 aircrack-ptw 1.0.0-1] - functionality was moved into aircrack (core) quite some time ago, website is not available anymore.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52967 android-compatibility-package r03-1] - Orphan, outdated, replaced by package [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=53266 android-support-package r04-1]<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23131 arping 2.08-1] - Orphan, out-of-date, and provided by [http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/i686/iputils/ iputils] in [core].<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=27418 asym 20100625-1] - Orphan, does not compile, has been replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=39218 asym-git 20100726-1].<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33423 aursh-git 2-4] - Orphan and no longer supported, project page and sources not available (cf comments)<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=27393 conkytwitter] - Orphan, dead project, dead source link with no mirror.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7615 daphne] - Orphan, outdated, replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15268 daphne-beta]<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17101 datakoisk] - Orphan, dead source link, I can't find any mirrors, no longer exists in KDE CVS tree either.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17102 datakiosk-i18n] - Orphan, dead source link, I can't find any mirrors, no longer exists in KDE CVS tree either.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=24581 desktube] - Orphan, dead project (both the project page and source link 404 with no mirror).<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=25523 desktube-slick] - Orphan, dead project (both the project page and source link 404 with no mirror).<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=46846 dolphin-kdemod] - Orphan, duplicate of kdebase-dolphin in [extra].<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52461 drakfire-caffe-gtk3] - Orphan, dublicate of [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48638 drakfire-caffe-gtk-theme]<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=51563 eikon-icon-theme] - Link seems to redirect the user to a dating site.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11116 emacs-dylan-mode] - Merged into [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=5411 opendylan] upstream ([http://opendylan.org/tools.phtml Source])<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26549 emacs-mingus] - Orphan, now only available via git and [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=36434 emacs-mingus-git] exists.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=34321 eric4-plugins-stable] - Orphan, available in [extra] as eric4-plugins.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38909 firefox-branded-bin-es-es 4.0-1] - Mozilla Firefox 4.0 - with branding - Castilian Spanish language - Orphan, Out of Date, abandoned as present in [extra], votes 0<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=47652 firefox-branded-bin-hu 4.0-1] - Mozilla Firefox 4.0 - with branding - Hungarian language - Orphan, Out of Date, abandoned as present in [extra], votes 0<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=42191 firefox-beta-bin-hu 4.0rc2-1]- Mozilla Firefox 4.0rc2 - with branding - Hungarian language - Orphan, Out of Date<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=46429 firefox-nightly-es 4.0rc1-20110309] - Mozilla Firefox 4.0rc1 - with branding - Spanish language - Orphan, Out of Date, votes 0<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=47567 firefox4-rc2-es 4.0rc2-201103191] - Mozilla Firefox 4.0rc2 - Spanish language - Orphan, Out of Date, votes 0<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=9800 firefoxqs 0.1.3-1] - Orphan, outdated, sources no longer available.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=42444 flexget-working 1.0r1650-1] - Orphan, out-of-date version of [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=30041 flexget 1.0r2463-2].<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=6042 fluxbox-styles-boxwhore 20060717-6] - Orphan, 404 on link for sources as mentioned in comments.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=49591 freecol-unstable 0.10.0-1] - Orphan, outdated version of [http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/freecol/ freecol 0.10.3-1] in [community].<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=19387 gizmo5 3.1.0.79-1] - Orphan, outdated, links down, project abandonned since gizmo5 has been acquired by google.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=49364 gnash-git 20110526-1] - Orphan, outdated, provides the same package as maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=39699 gnash-trunk-git 20111028-1]<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=30486 gnome-panel-liblunar] - Orphan, outdated (gnome 2.6x), depends on unavailable packages<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=51877 gnome-shell-theme-fainence] - Orphan, outdated and misspelled. Correct version [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=51878 here].<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=53069 gnome-shell-theme-pantheon] - Orphan, source page seems to be unreachable.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=53802 gnome-shell-theme-reworkedx3me] - Orphan, source page has been deleted.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=16561 gnubiff-hg 13-1] - Orphan, outdated, dead project (sources and referenced site are 404).<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=16631 guilt] - Orphan, dead project (sources and referenced site are 404).<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38385 icecat-as 3.6.15-1] - Orphan, outdated, replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48162 icecat-ast 7.0.1-1]<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18296 icecat-bin 3.6.13-1] - Orphan, outdated, provides the same package as [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14169 icecat 7.0.1-1]<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38420 icecat-ka 3.6.15-1] - Orphan, outdated, no longer available upstream.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38433 icecat-oc 3.6.15-1] - Orphan, outdated, no longer available upstream.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23588 icegilgrey] - Orphan, dead project (project site and source link 404), I can't find any mirrors.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=30306 info] - Orphan, dead project (project site and source link 404), I can't find any mirrors, orphaned by the project dev.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=3152 kdedecor-blended 0.3-1] - Orphan, outdated, kde3 related (no longer available), no longer available upstream.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=3154 kdedecor-hypnotista-siyah 0.1-1] - Orphan, outdated, kde3 related (no longer available), no longer available upstream.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=3153 kdedecor-hypnotistasade 0.1-1] - Orphan, outdated, kde3 related (no longer available), no longer available upstream.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=3155 kdedecor-klearbox 1.0-1] - Orphan, outdated, kde3 related (no longer available), no longer available upstream.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2775 kdedecor-knifty 0.4.2-1] - Orphan, outdated, kde3 related (no longer available), no longer available upstream.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=4270 kdeicons-kids] - Orphan, no longer available upstream.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2778 kdestyle-linspireclear 1.11-1] - Orphan, outdated, kde3 related (no longer available), no longer available upstream.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=5481 klaptopdaemon] - Orphan, has been replaced by kpowersave ([http://packages.debian.org/lenny/klaptopdaemon Source) which does not yet exist in the AUR.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2206 ksystemlog 0.3.2-1] - Orphan, outdated, no longer available upstream.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=4446 kuser] - Orphan, outdated, kde3 related (no longer available), available in extra as kdeadmin-kuser for kde4.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10109 libcmml] - Orphan, dead project (project page and source links 404), a source mirror exists but it's an old project that was last updated in 2006.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2363 libcoaster] - Orphan, dead project (project page and source links 404), I can't find any mirrors and it's an old project that was last updated in 2005.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31508 meliae-icons] - Orphan, dead sources but replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48623 meliae-iconset]<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=19986 mpd-notify] - Orphan, dead project (project page and source links 404), I can't find any mirrors.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14945 mplayer-hunarch] - Orphan, not updated since 2008, outdated patches involved<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17446 notefinder] - Orphan, dead project (both the project page and source link 404 with no mirror).<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=20770 orage-devel] - Orphan, outdated, xfce4.6 related<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52832 plasma-theme-gremix 7.3.2-1] - Orphan, Out of Date, replaced by maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=53085 plasma-theme-helium 8.0.2-1] (see comments)<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=21500 plasma-theme-opensuse] - Orphan, dead source link, I can't find any mirrors.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17919 python-msnlib 3.6-1] - Orphan, outdated, has been updated and renamed as [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=53134 python2-msnlib 3.8-1] since it has not been ported to python3<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=21664 python-qscintilla-dev] - Orphan, stable versions exist in [extra] for python and python2, dev versions no longer available upstream.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=42252 python3-sqlalchemy 0.6.5-1] and [http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=42161 python-sqlalchemy-py3k 0.6.5-1] - Orphan and is in [community] as [http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/any/python-sqlalchemy/ python-slqalchemy 0.7.2-1]<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38214 python3-yaml 3.09-1] and [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=12769 python-yaml-py 3.06-1] - Orphan, and provided by packages in [community] [http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/python-yaml/ python-yaml 3.10-1] and [http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/python2-yaml/ python2-yaml 3.10-1]<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=20195 pyxfce] - Orphan, outdated, xfce4.4 related<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=6584 relayd] - Orphan, dead project (both source link and project page don't exist), I can't find any mirrors (only BSD ports).<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=3247 replex] and [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23505 replex-yacoto] - The latter is an orphan, dead project (project site and source link 404), I've emailed the maintainer of replex to see if he/she knows anything about the project. [[User:Gadget3000|Gadget3000]] 06:25, 14 November 2011 (EST) I got a respone from the maintainer and they said that better replacements now exist and that the source only exists in gentoo mirrors. He has orphaned it and is happy for it to be deleted. [[User:Gadget3000|Gadget3000]] 05:08, 19 November 2011 (EST)<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=3631 rtl8180] - Orphan, merged into the kernel (listed in 'modprobe -l').<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14137 shrip] - Orphan, duplicate of maintained package [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=40996 ogmrip-shrip]<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15004 savekernel] - Orphan, project domain 404.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11944 siglar] - Orphan, last updated 2008, project page 404<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=40360 skulltag-x86_64] - Orphan and has been replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17974 skulltag]<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2472 snortrules 2.4-2] - Orphan, outdated (last update 2005), sources goes 404, unneeded as the tool [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=4314 oinkmaster 2.0-6] (Orphan but up to date) provides the updates and is referenced in the [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Snort#Update_the_rules:_Oinkmaster Snort] article on ArchWiki<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=1464 squidguard 1.2.0-1] - Orphan, outdated, replaced by maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=24284 squidguard-1.4 1.4-1]<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=27450 thunar1-libs] - Orphan, outdated, xfce4.6 related<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=16753 tklor] - Orphan, dead project (source and project site both 404).<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15368 tor-rc] - Orphan, replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7927 tor-alpha].<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=9874 trash] - Orphan, replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=19076 trash-cli] due to an upstream name change.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=43427 tvmaxe] - Orphan, replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=51327 tv-maxe] as specified in the package comments.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48028 vacuum-spell] - Orphan, replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48121 vacuum-spellchecker] as specified in package comments.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26624 wbar-patched] - Orphan, last updated 2009, patch not ported to newest version<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=43755 wmcore] - Orphan, broken source link, project domain 404<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=22125 xbmc-theme-pm3-osx] - Orphan, dead source link with no mirrors, no project update since 2008<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38572 xfce-theme-meliae] - Orphan, outdated, broken link<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=22081 xfce4-panel-cairo] - Orphan, outdated, xfce4.4 related<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33169 xfce4-panel-netk] - Orphan, outdated, xfce4.4 & 4.6 related<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31644 xfce4-perl-git] - Orphan, outdated, broken link, votes 0<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=27195 xfce4-vala-git] - Orphan, outdated, project seems to be abandoned<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=39344 xfdesktop-git-garcon] - Orphan, outdated, branch deleted, votes 0<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44374 xfwm4-standalone] - Orphan, outdated, xfce4.6 related, votes 0<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7290 xgame] - Orphan, dead source link with no mirrors, project website no longer available<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=49554 zen-kernel-stable-latest 20110604-1] - Orphan, outdated, replaced by maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel 20110120-6]<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=28868 zterm-dev] - Orphan, dead project (project page and source link 404), I can't find any mirrors because other projects exist under this name.<br />
<br />
== List of Packages that need further inspection ==<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=25228 bashic] - Orphan, dead project site, no mirrors, last development tests were 5 months ago. How long are waiting before considering a project dead?<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26727 geant3] - Orphan, replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=36278 geant4], dead source link but mirrors exist, some people may still use geant3.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14291 ndiswrapper-zen] - Orphan, depends on kernel26zen which no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13901 nvidia-96xx-zen 96.43.05-1] - Orphan, outdated, seems to be zen related, kernel26zen no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13904 nvidia-beta-zen 190.42-1] - Orphan, outdated, seems to be zen related, kernel26zen no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13903 nvidia-zen 280.13-1] - Orphan, outdated, depends on kernel26zen which no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=30154 nvidia-zen-stable 185.18.36-1] - Orphan, outdated, seems to be zen related, kernel26zen no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13909 omnibook-svn-zen 268-1] - Orphan, outdated, seems to be zen related, kernel26zen no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10337 soma] - Orphan, dead project (source links 404 and download links have been removed from the project page), mirrors exist but it's an old project from 2007.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10338 somaplayer] - Orphan, dead project (source links 404 and download links have been removed from the project page), mirrors exist but it's an old project from 2007.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10339 somax] - Orphan, dead project (source links 404 and download links have been removed from the project page), mirrors exist but it's an old project from 2007.<br />
<br />
Many stardict packages have dead source links because the project died due to copyright claims, but did re-emerge elsewhere. It should be looked into whether or not these packages also infringe upon copyright.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13908 truecrypt-zen 4.3a-2] - Orphan, outdated, deps not specified (seems to be zen related), kernel26zen no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13907 v86d-zen 0.1.3-2] - Orphan, outdated, deps not specified (seems to be zen related), kernel26zen no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=34674 vhba-module-zen 1.2.1-2] - Orphan, outdated, depends on kernel26zen which no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=1454 wax 0.3.16-1] - Orphan, outdated, relies on unavailable python 2.5, development stopped since 2006.<br />
<br />
== List of packages to keep ==<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23350 qu] - Possibly dead but according to google's cache the site was last up on the 4th November 2011. I've emailed the upstream project leader for more info. [[User:Gadget3000|Gadget3000]] 10:06, 12 November 2011 (EST) I got a response and for now the upstream maintainer has put the project into hibernation because he doesn't have enough time to spend on it, so although the project's future is looking bleak, it isn't dead. [[User:Gadget3000|Gadget3000]] 12:09, 12 November 2011 (EST)<br />
== Removed packages ==<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2125 tex-unicode] - Orphan, dead project, dead project page and source links, I can't find any mirrors. - Removed, LaTeX and TeXlive have unicode-support for long (StefanHusmann, TU).</div>Eduardohttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Thebishop&diff=170636User talk:Thebishop2011-11-20T00:28:14Z<p>Eduardo: </p>
<hr />
<div>== AUR Cleanup ==<br />
<br />
I've launched in the [aur-general] ML the idea of a cleanup.<br />
<br />
Why a cleanup? There are more than 6700 orphan packages, and 2400+ of them are out of date. Many of them are only waiting to be adopted by a new maintainer, but others have been replaced by something else and have to be removed.<br />
<br />
But what package have to be removed and what deserves a new maintainer?<br />
<br />
I think that a "just remove" policy is as bad as a "keep'em all" one.<br />
<br />
IMHO the right approach is to evaluate case-by-case what is right to do. There are packages with peculiar optimizations or packages that need a little work to be useful again and there are packages that have been left there just because the maintainer didn't know how to delete them.<br />
<br />
I think that the first step is to build a list of those, packages that have been abandoned because have been replaced by others.<br />
All the package remove proposals need to have proper motivations (for example "replaced by package XXX").<br />
<br />
As I've been suggested, I'm starting this discussion to build together the list of packages to remove and to collect ideas on how to proceed in this task. Maybe, while surfing that huge amount of packages, we can discover some interesting project that some of us may adopt.<br />
<br />
==== Work previously done ====<br />
An AUR cleanup was done in 2010, the [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_Cleanup_Day page used for that] continues to list applications that are not yet deleted. Would you have us edit and expand that list or would you have us build a new list here, perhaps including what is already available there. Good initiative. --[[User:Stefanwilkens|stefanwilkens]] 17:12, 7 November 2011 (EST)<br />
<br />
I think that here is the right place (for now), as this is a new "unofficial" initiative.<br />
Obviously if a TU launches a new similar campaign, I'll be glad to join the efforts on the "official" one.<br />
<br />
==== Finding Packages to Assess ====<br />
I've generated a huge list of about 2000 packages that have dead source links. It's only a preliminary list for now because it only covers 58% of the AUR packages, I have no idea how reliable the script is that generated it, a server may only be temporarily down and many packages may just be out of date. I plan on filtering it to just those that are orphans and in about a weeks time I'll generate another list and cross reference it with this one to try and filter out source links that were temporarily down and packages that were out of date. Anyway the list is here http://underrun.org/~gadget/dead-source-links.log [[User:Gadget3000|Gadget3000]] 06:50, 12 November 2011 (EST)<br />
<br />
Here is the list filtered to just those that are orphans. There about 900. http://underrun.org/~gadget/orphaned-dead-source-links.log [[User:Gadget3000|Gadget3000]] 08:01, 12 November 2011 (EST)<br />
<br />
== List of packages to be removed ==<br />
<br />
[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=41942 agnclient-1.0 2.0.1-3003] - Orphan, outdated, replaced by package [http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=41943 agnclient 1.0_2.0.1-7]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18331 aircrack-ptw 1.0.0-1] - functionality was moved into aircrack (core) quite some time ago, website is not available anymore.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52967 android-compatibility-package r03-1] - Orphan, outdated, replaced by package [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=53266 android-support-package r04-1]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23131 arping 2.08-1] - Orphan, out-of-date, and provided by [http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/i686/iputils/ iputils] in [core].<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=27418 asym 20100625-1] - Orphan, does not compile, has been replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=39218 asym-git 20100726-1].<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33423 aursh-git 2-4] - Orphan and no longer supported, project page and sources not available (cf comments)<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=27393 conkytwitter] - Orphan, dead project, dead source link with no mirror.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7615 daphne] - Orphan, outdated, replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15268 daphne-beta]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17101 datakoisk] - Orphan, dead source link, I can't find any mirrors, no longer exists in KDE CVS tree either.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17102 datakiosk-i18n] - Orphan, dead source link, I can't find any mirrors, no longer exists in KDE CVS tree either.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=24581 desktube] - Orphan, dead project (both the project page and source link 404 with no mirror).<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=25523 desktube-slick] - Orphan, dead project (both the project page and source link 404 with no mirror).<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=46846 dolphin-kdemod] - Orphan, duplicate of kdebase-dolphin in [extra].<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52461 drakfire-caffe-gtk3] - Orphan, dublicate of [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48638 drakfire-caffe-gtk-theme]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=51563 eikon-icon-theme] - Link seems to redirect the user to a dating site.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11116 emacs-dylan-mode] - Merged into [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=5411 opendylan] upstream ([http://opendylan.org/tools.phtml Source])<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26549 emacs-mingus] - Orphan, now only available via git and [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=36434 emacs-mingus-git] exists.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=34321 eric4-plugins-stable] - Orphan, available in [extra] as eric4-plugins.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38909 firefox-branded-bin-es-es 4.0-1] - Mozilla Firefox 4.0 - with branding - Castilian Spanish language - Orphan, Out of Date, abandoned as present in [extra], votes 0<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=47652 firefox-branded-bin-hu 4.0-1] - Mozilla Firefox 4.0 - with branding - Hungarian language - Orphan, Out of Date, abandoned as present in [extra], votes 0<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=42191 firefox-beta-bin-hu 4.0rc2-1]- Mozilla Firefox 4.0rc2 - with branding - Hungarian language - Orphan, Out of Date<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=46429 firefox-nightly-es 4.0rc1-20110309] - Mozilla Firefox 4.0rc1 - with branding - Spanish language - Orphan, Out of Date, votes 0<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=47567 firefox4-rc2-es 4.0rc2-201103191] - Mozilla Firefox 4.0rc2 - Spanish language - Orphan, Out of Date, votes 0<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=9800 firefoxqs 0.1.3-1] - Orphan, outdated, sources no longer available.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=42444 flexget-working 1.0r1650-1] - Orphan, out-of-date version of [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=30041 flexget 1.0r2463-2].<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=6042 fluxbox-styles-boxwhore 20060717-6] - Orphan, 404 on link for sources as mentioned in comments.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=49591 freecol-unstable 0.10.0-1] - Orphan, outdated version of [http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/freecol/ freecol 0.10.3-1] in [community].<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=19387 gizmo5 3.1.0.79-1] - Orphan, outdated, links down, project abandonned since gizmo5 has been acquired by google.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=49364 gnash-git 20110526-1] - Orphan, outdated, provides the same package as maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=39699 gnash-trunk-git 20111028-1]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=30486 gnome-panel-liblunar] - Orphan, outdated (gnome 2.6x), depends on unavailable packages<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=51877 gnome-shell-theme-fainence] - Orphan, outdated and misspelled. Correct version [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=51878 here].<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=53802 gnome-shell-theme-reworkedx3me] - Orphan, source page has been deleted.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=53069 gnome-shell-theme-pantheon] - Orphan, source page seems to be unreachable.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=16561 gnubiff-hg 13-1] - Orphan, outdated, dead project (sources and referenced site are 404).<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=16631 guilt] - Orphan, dead project (sources and referenced site are 404).<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38385 icecat-as 3.6.15-1] - Orphan, outdated, replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48162 icecat-ast 7.0.1-1]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18296 icecat-bin 3.6.13-1] - Orphan, outdated, provides the same package as [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14169 icecat 7.0.1-1]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38420 icecat-ka 3.6.15-1] - Orphan, outdated, no longer available upstream.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38433 icecat-oc 3.6.15-1] - Orphan, outdated, no longer available upstream.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23588 icegilgrey] - Orphan, dead project (project site and source link 404), I can't find any mirrors.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=30306 info] - Orphan, dead project (project site and source link 404), I can't find any mirrors, orphaned by the project dev.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=3152 kdedecor-blended 0.3-1] - Orphan, outdated, kde3 related (no longer available), no longer available upstream.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=3154 kdedecor-hypnotista-siyah 0.1-1] - Orphan, outdated, kde3 related (no longer available), no longer available upstream.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=3153 kdedecor-hypnotistasade 0.1-1] - Orphan, outdated, kde3 related (no longer available), no longer available upstream.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=3155 kdedecor-klearbox 1.0-1] - Orphan, outdated, kde3 related (no longer available), no longer available upstream.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2775 kdedecor-knifty 0.4.2-1] - Orphan, outdated, kde3 related (no longer available), no longer available upstream.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=4270 kdeicons-kids] - Orphan, no longer available upstream.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2778 kdestyle-linspireclear 1.11-1] - Orphan, outdated, kde3 related (no longer available), no longer available upstream.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=5481 klaptopdaemon] - Orphan, has been replaced by kpowersave ([http://packages.debian.org/lenny/klaptopdaemon Source) which does not yet exist in the AUR.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2206 ksystemlog 0.3.2-1] - Orphan, outdated, no longer available upstream.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=4446 kuser] - Orphan, outdated, kde3 related (no longer available), available in extra as kdeadmin-kuser for kde4.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10109 libcmml] - Orphan, dead project (project page and source links 404), a source mirror exists but it's an old project that was last updated in 2006.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2363 libcoaster] - Orphan, dead project (project page and source links 404), I can't find any mirrors and it's an old project that was last updated in 2005.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31508 meliae-icons] - Orphan, dead sources but replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48623 meliae-iconset]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=19986 mpd-notify] - Orphan, dead project (project page and source links 404), I can't find any mirrors.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14945 mplayer-hunarch] - Orphan, not updated since 2008, outdated patches involved<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17446 notefinder] - Orphan, dead project (both the project page and source link 404 with no mirror).<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=20770 orage-devel] - Orphan, outdated, xfce4.6 related<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52832 plasma-theme-gremix 7.3.2-1] - Orphan, Out of Date, replaced by maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=53085 plasma-theme-helium 8.0.2-1] (see comments)<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=21500 plasma-theme-opensuse] - Orphan, dead source link, I can't find any mirrors.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17919 python-msnlib 3.6-1] - Orphan, outdated, has been updated and renamed as [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=53134 python2-msnlib 3.8-1] since it has not been ported to python3<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=21664 python-qscintilla-dev] - Orphan, stable versions exist in [extra] for python and python2, dev versions no longer available upstream.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=42252 python3-sqlalchemy 0.6.5-1] and [http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=42161 python-sqlalchemy-py3k 0.6.5-1] - Orphan and is in [community] as [http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/any/python-sqlalchemy/ python-slqalchemy 0.7.2-1]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38214 python3-yaml 3.09-1] and [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=12769 python-yaml-py 3.06-1] - Orphan, and provided by packages in [community] [http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/python-yaml/ python-yaml 3.10-1] and [http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/python2-yaml/ python2-yaml 3.10-1]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=20195 pyxfce] - Orphan, outdated, xfce4.4 related<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=6584 relayd] - Orphan, dead project (both source link and project page don't exist), I can't find any mirrors (only BSD ports).<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=3247 replex] and [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23505 replex-yacoto] - The latter is an orphan, dead project (project site and source link 404), I've emailed the maintainer of replex to see if he/she knows anything about the project. [[User:Gadget3000|Gadget3000]] 06:25, 14 November 2011 (EST) I got a respone from the maintainer and they said that better replacements now exist and that the source only exists in gentoo mirrors. He has orphaned it and is happy for it to be deleted. [[User:Gadget3000|Gadget3000]] 05:08, 19 November 2011 (EST)<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=3631 rtl8180] - Orphan, merged into the kernel (listed in 'modprobe -l').<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14137 shrip] - Orphan, duplicate of maintained package [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=40996 ogmrip-shrip]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15004 savekernel] - Orphan, project domain 404.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11944 siglar] - Orphan, last updated 2008, project page 404<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=40360 skulltag-x86_64] - Orphan and has been replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17974 skulltag]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2472 snortrules 2.4-2] - Orphan, outdated (last update 2005), sources goes 404, unneeded as the tool [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=4314 oinkmaster 2.0-6] (Orphan but up to date) provides the updates and is referenced in the [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Snort#Update_the_rules:_Oinkmaster Snort] article on ArchWiki<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=1464 squidguard 1.2.0-1] - Orphan, outdated, replaced by maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=24284 squidguard-1.4 1.4-1]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=27450 thunar1-libs] - Orphan, outdated, xfce4.6 related<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=16753 tklor] - Orphan, dead project (source and project site both 404).<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15368 tor-rc] - Orphan, replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7927 tor-alpha].<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=9874 trash] - Orphan, replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=19076 trash-cli] due to an upstream name change.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=43427 tvmaxe] - Orphan, replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=51327 tv-maxe] as specified in the package comments.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48028 vacuum-spell] - Orphan, replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48121 vacuum-spellchecker] as specified in package comments.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26624 wbar-patched] - Orphan, last updated 2009, patch not ported to newest version<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=43755 wmcore] - Orphan, broken source link, project domain 404<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=22125 xbmc-theme-pm3-osx] - Orphan, dead source link with no mirrors, no project update since 2008<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38572 xfce-theme-meliae] - Orphan, outdated, broken link<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=22081 xfce4-panel-cairo] - Orphan, outdated, xfce4.4 related<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33169 xfce4-panel-netk] - Orphan, outdated, xfce4.4 & 4.6 related<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31644 xfce4-perl-git] - Orphan, outdated, broken link, votes 0<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=27195 xfce4-vala-git] - Orphan, outdated, project seems to be abandoned<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=39344 xfdesktop-git-garcon] - Orphan, outdated, branch deleted, votes 0<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44374 xfwm4-standalone] - Orphan, outdated, xfce4.6 related, votes 0<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7290 xgame] - Orphan, dead source link with no mirrors, project website no longer available<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=49554 zen-kernel-stable-latest 20110604-1] - Orphan, outdated, replaced by maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel 20110120-6]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=28868 zterm-dev] - Orphan, dead project (project page and source link 404), I can't find any mirrors because other projects exist under this name.<br />
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== List of Packages that need further inspection ==<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=25228 bashic] - Orphan, dead project site, no mirrors, last development tests were 5 months ago. How long are waiting before considering a project dead?<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26727 geant3] - Orphan, replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=36278 geant4], dead source link but mirrors exist, some people may still use geant3.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14291 ndiswrapper-zen] - Orphan, depends on kernel26zen which no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13901 nvidia-96xx-zen 96.43.05-1] - Orphan, outdated, seems to be zen related, kernel26zen no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13904 nvidia-beta-zen 190.42-1] - Orphan, outdated, seems to be zen related, kernel26zen no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13903 nvidia-zen 280.13-1] - Orphan, outdated, depends on kernel26zen which no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=30154 nvidia-zen-stable 185.18.36-1] - Orphan, outdated, seems to be zen related, kernel26zen no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13909 omnibook-svn-zen 268-1] - Orphan, outdated, seems to be zen related, kernel26zen no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10337 soma] - Orphan, dead project (source links 404 and download links have been removed from the project page), mirrors exist but it's an old project from 2007.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10338 somaplayer] - Orphan, dead project (source links 404 and download links have been removed from the project page), mirrors exist but it's an old project from 2007.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10339 somax] - Orphan, dead project (source links 404 and download links have been removed from the project page), mirrors exist but it's an old project from 2007.<br />
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Many stardict packages have dead source links because the project died due to copyright claims, but did re-emerge elsewhere. It should be looked into whether or not these packages also infringe upon copyright.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13908 truecrypt-zen 4.3a-2] - Orphan, outdated, deps not specified (seems to be zen related), kernel26zen no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13907 v86d-zen 0.1.3-2] - Orphan, outdated, deps not specified (seems to be zen related), kernel26zen no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=34674 vhba-module-zen 1.2.1-2] - Orphan, outdated, depends on kernel26zen which no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=1454 wax 0.3.16-1] - Orphan, outdated, relies on unavailable python 2.5, development stopped since 2006.<br />
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== List of packages to keep ==<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23350 qu] - Possibly dead but according to google's cache the site was last up on the 4th November 2011. I've emailed the upstream project leader for more info. [[User:Gadget3000|Gadget3000]] 10:06, 12 November 2011 (EST) I got a response and for now the upstream maintainer has put the project into hibernation because he doesn't have enough time to spend on it, so although the project's future is looking bleak, it isn't dead. [[User:Gadget3000|Gadget3000]] 12:09, 12 November 2011 (EST)<br />
== Removed packages ==<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2125 tex-unicode] - Orphan, dead project, dead project page and source links, I can't find any mirrors. - Removed, LaTeX and TeXlive have unicode-support for long (StefanHusmann, TU).</div>Eduardohttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Thebishop&diff=170095User talk:Thebishop2011-11-14T21:08:34Z<p>Eduardo: </p>
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<div>== AUR Cleanup ==<br />
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I've launched in the [aur-general] ML the idea of a cleanup.<br />
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Why a cleanup? There are more than 6700 orphan packages, and 2400+ of them are out of date. Many of them are only waiting to be adopted by a new maintainer, but others have been replaced by something else and have to be removed.<br />
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But what package have to be removed and what deserves a new maintainer?<br />
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I think that a "just remove" policy is as bad as a "keep'em all" one.<br />
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IMHO the right approach is to evaluate case-by-case what is right to do. There are packages with peculiar optimizations or packages that need a little work to be useful again and there are packages that have been left there just because the maintainer didn't know how to delete them.<br />
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I think that the first step is to build a list of those, packages that have been abandoned because have been replaced by others.<br />
All the package remove proposals need to have proper motivations (for example "replaced by package XXX").<br />
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As I've been suggested, I'm starting this discussion to build together the list of packages to remove and to collect ideas on how to proceed in this task. Maybe, while surfing that huge amount of packages, we can discover some interesting project that some of us may adopt.<br />
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==== Work previously done ====<br />
An AUR cleanup was done in 2010, the [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_Cleanup_Day page used for that] continues to list applications that are not yet deleted. Would you have us edit and expand that list or would you have us build a new list here, perhaps including what is already available there. Good initiative. --[[User:Stefanwilkens|stefanwilkens]] 17:12, 7 November 2011 (EST)<br />
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I think that here is the right place (for now), as this is a new "unofficial" initiative.<br />
Obviously if a TU launches a new similar campaign, I'll be glad to join the efforts on the "official" one.<br />
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==== Finding Packages to Assess ====<br />
I've generated a huge list of about 2000 packages that have dead source links. It's only a preliminary list for now because it only covers 58% of the AUR packages, I have no idea how reliable the script is that generated it, a server may only be temporarily down and many packages may just be out of date. I plan on filtering it to just those that are orphans and in about a weeks time I'll generate another list and cross reference it with this one to try and filter out source links that were temporarily down and packages that were out of date. Anyway the list is here http://underrun.org/~gadget/dead-source-links.log [[User:Gadget3000|Gadget3000]] 06:50, 12 November 2011 (EST)<br />
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Here is the list filtered to just those that are orphans. There about 900. http://underrun.org/~gadget/orphaned-dead-source-links.log [[User:Gadget3000|Gadget3000]] 08:01, 12 November 2011 (EST)<br />
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== List of packages to be removed ==<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=41942 agnclient-1.0 2.0.1-3003] - Orphan, outdated, replaced by package [http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=41943 agnclient 1.0_2.0.1-7]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18331 aircrack-ptw 1.0.0-1] - functionality was moved into aircrack (core) quite some time ago, website is not available anymore.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52967 android-compatibility-package r03-1] - Orphan, outdated, replaced by package [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=53266 android-support-package r04-1]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23131 arping 2.08-1] - Orphan, out-of-date, and provided by [http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/i686/iputils/ iputils] in [core].<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=27418 asym 20100625-1] - Orphan, does not compile, has been replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=39218 asym-git 20100726-1].<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33423 aursh-git 2-4] - Orphan and no longer supported, project page and sources not available (cf comments)<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=27393 conkytwitter] - Orphan, dead project, dead source link with no mirror.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17101 datakoisk] - Orphan, dead source link, I can't find any mirrors, no longer exists in KDE CVS tree either.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17102 datakiosk-i18n] - Orphan, dead source link, I can't find any mirrors, no longer exists in KDE CVS tree either.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=24581 desktube] - Orphan, dead project (both the project page and source link 404 with no mirror).<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=25523 desktube-slick] - Orphan, dead project (both the project page and source link 404 with no mirror).<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=46846 dolphin-kdemod] - Orphan, duplicate of kdebase-dolphin in [extra].<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52461 drakfire-caffe-gtk3] - Orphan, dublicate of [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48638 drakfire-caffe-gtk-theme]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=51563 eikon-icon-theme] - Link seems to redirect the user to a dating site.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11116 emacs-dylan-mode] - Merged into [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=5411 opendylan] upstream ([http://opendylan.org/tools.phtml Source])<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26549 emacs-mingus] - Orphan, now only available via git and [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=36434 emacs-mingus-git] exists.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=34321 eric4-plugins-stable] - Orphan, available in [extra] as eric4-plugins.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38909 firefox-branded-bin-es-es 4.0-1] - Mozilla Firefox 4.0 - with branding - Castilian Spanish language - Orphan, Out of Date, abandoned as present in [extra], votes 0<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=47652 firefox-branded-bin-hu 4.0-1] - Mozilla Firefox 4.0 - with branding - Hungarian language - Orphan, Out of Date, abandoned as present in [extra], votes 0<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=42191 firefox-beta-bin-hu 4.0rc2-1]- Mozilla Firefox 4.0rc2 - with branding - Hungarian language - Orphan, Out of Date<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=46429 firefox-nightly-es 4.0rc1-20110309] - Mozilla Firefox 4.0rc1 - with branding - Spanish language - Orphan, Out of Date, votes 0<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=47567 firefox4-rc2-es 4.0rc2-201103191] - Mozilla Firefox 4.0rc2 - Spanish language - Orphan, Out of Date, votes 0<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=9800 firefoxqs 0.1.3-1] - Orphan, outdated, sources no longer available.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=42444 flexget-working 1.0r1650-1] - Orphan, out-of-date version of [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=30041 flexget 1.0r2463-2].<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=6042 fluxbox-styles-boxwhore 20060717-6] - Orphan, 404 on link for sources as mentioned in comments.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=49591 freecol-unstable 0.10.0-1] - Orphan, outdated version of [http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/freecol/ freecol 0.10.3-1] in [community].<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=19387 gizmo5 3.1.0.79-1] - Orphan, outdated, links down, project abandonned since gizmo5 has been acquired by google.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=49364 gnash-git 20110526-1] - Orphan, outdated, provides the same package as maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=39699 gnash-trunk-git 20111028-1]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=16561 gnubiff-hg 13-1] - Orphan, outdated, dead project (sources and referenced site are 404).<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=16631 guilt] - Orphan, dead project (sources and referenced site are 404).<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38385 icecat-as 3.6.15-1] - Orphan, outdated, replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48162 icecat-ast 7.0.1-1]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18296 icecat-bin 3.6.13-1] - Orphan, outdated, provides the same package as [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14169 icecat 7.0.1-1]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38420 icecat-ka 3.6.15-1] - Orphan, outdated, no longer available upstream.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38433 icecat-oc 3.6.15-1] - Orphan, outdated, no longer available upstream.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23588 icegilgrey] - Orphan, dead project (project site and source link 404), I can't find any mirrors.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=30306 info] - Orphan, dead project (project site and source link 404), I can't find any mirrors, orphaned by the project dev.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=3152 kdedecor-blended 0.3-1] - Orphan, outdated, kde3 related (no longer available), no longer available upstream.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=3154 kdedecor-hypnotista-siyah 0.1-1] - Orphan, outdated, kde3 related (no longer available), no longer available upstream.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=3153 kdedecor-hypnotistasade 0.1-1] - Orphan, outdated, kde3 related (no longer available), no longer available upstream.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=3155 kdedecor-klearbox 1.0-1] - Orphan, outdated, kde3 related (no longer available), no longer available upstream.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2775 kdedecor-knifty 0.4.2-1] - Orphan, outdated, kde3 related (no longer available), no longer available upstream.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=4270 kdeicons-kids] - Orphan, no longer available upstream.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2778 kdestyle-linspireclear 1.11-1] - Orphan, outdated, kde3 related (no longer available), no longer available upstream.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=5481 klaptopdaemon] - Orphan, has been replaced by kpowersave ([http://packages.debian.org/lenny/klaptopdaemon Source) which does not yet exist in the AUR.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2206 ksystemlog 0.3.2-1] - Orphan, outdated, no longer available upstream.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=4446 kuser] - Orphan, outdated, kde3 related (no longer available), available in extra as kdeadmin-kuser for kde4.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10109 libcmml] - Orphan, dead project (project page and source links 404), a source mirror exists but it's an old project that was last updated in 2006.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2363 libcoaster] - Orphan, dead project (project page and source links 404), I can't find any mirrors and it's an old project that was last updated in 2005.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31508 meliae-icons] - Orphan, dead sources but replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48623 meliae-iconset]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=19986 mpd-notify] - Orphan, dead project (project page and source links 404), I can't find any mirrors.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17446 notefinder] - Orphan, dead project (both the project page and source link 404 with no mirror).<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=20770 orage-devel] - Orphan, outdated, xfce4.6 related<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52832 plasma-theme-gremix 7.3.2-1] - Orphan, Out of Date, replaced by maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=53085 plasma-theme-helium 8.0.2-1] (see comments)<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=21500 plasma-theme-opensuse] - Orphan, dead source link, I can't find any mirrors.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17919 python-msnlib 3.6-1] - Orphan, outdated, has been updated and renamed as [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=53134 python2-msnlib 3.8-1] since it has not been ported to python3<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=21664 python-qscintilla-dev] - Orphan, stable versions exist in [extra] for python and python2, dev versions no longer available upstream.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=42252 python3-sqlalchemy 0.6.5-1] and [http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=42161 python-sqlalchemy-py3k 0.6.5-1] - Orphan and is in [community] as [http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/any/python-sqlalchemy/ python-slqalchemy 0.7.2-1]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38214 python3-yaml 3.09-1] and [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=12769 python-yaml-py 3.06-1] - Orphan, and provided by packages in [community] [http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/python-yaml/ python-yaml 3.10-1] and [http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/python2-yaml/ python2-yaml 3.10-1]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=20195 pyxfce] - Orphan, outdated, xfce4.4 related<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=6584 relayd] - Orphan, dead project (both source link and project page don't exist), I can't find any mirrors (only BSD ports).<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=3631 rtl8180] - Orphan, merged into the kernel (listed in 'modprobe -l').<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=40360 skulltag-x86_64] - Orphan and has been replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17974 skulltag]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2472 snortrules 2.4-2] - Orphan, outdated (last update 2005), sources goes 404, unneeded as the tool [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=4314 oinkmaster 2.0-6] (Orphan but up to date) provides the updates and is referenced in the [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Snort#Update_the_rules:_Oinkmaster Snort] article on ArchWiki<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=1464 squidguard 1.2.0-1] - Orphan, outdated, replaced by maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=24284 squidguard-1.4 1.4-1]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=27450 thunar1-libs] - Orphan, outdated, xfce4.6 related<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=16753 tklor] - Orphan, dead project (source and project site both 404).<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15368 tor-rc] - Orphan, replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7927 tor-alpha].<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=9874 trash] - Orphan, replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=19076 trash-cli] due to an upstream name change.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=43427 tvmaxe] - Orphan, replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=51327 tv-maxe] as specified in the package comments.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48028 vaccum-spell] - Orphan, replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48121 vaccum-spellchecker] as specified in package comments.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=43755 wmcore] - Orphan, broken source link, project domain 404<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=22125 xbmc-theme-pm3-osx] - Orphan, dead source link with no mirrors, no project update since 2008<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38572 xfce-theme-meliae] - Orphan, outdated, broken link<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=22081 xfce4-panel-cairo] - Orphan, outdated, xfce4.4 related<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33169 xfce4-panel-netk] - Orphan, outdated, xfce4.4 & 4.6 related<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31644 xfce4-perl-git] - Orphan, outdated, broken link, votes 0<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=27195 xfce4-vala-git] - Orphan, outdated, project seems to be abandoned<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=39344 xfdesktop-git-garcon] - Orphan, outdated, branch deleted, votes 0<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44374 xfwm4-standalone] - Orphan, outdated, xfce4.6 related, votes 0<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7290 xgame] - Orphan, dead source link with no mirrors, project website no longer available<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=49554 zen-kernel-stable-latest 20110604-1] - Orphan, outdated, replaced by maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel 20110120-6]<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=28868 zterm-dev] - Orphan, dead project (project page and source link 404), I can't find any mirrors because other projects exist under this name.<br />
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== List of Packages that need further inspection ==<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=25228 bashic] - Orphan, dead project site, no mirrors, last development tests were 5 months ago. How long are waiting before considering a project dead?<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26727 geant3] - Orphan, replaced by [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=36278 geant4], dead source link but mirrors exist, some people may still use geant3.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14291 ndiswrapper-zen] - Orphan, depends on kernel26zen which no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13901 nvidia-96xx-zen 96.43.05-1] - Orphan, outdated, seems to be zen related, kernel26zen no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13904 nvidia-beta-zen 190.42-1] - Orphan, outdated, seems to be zen related, kernel26zen no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13903 nvidia-zen 280.13-1] - Orphan, outdated, depends on kernel26zen which no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=30154 nvidia-zen-stable 185.18.36-1] - Orphan, outdated, seems to be zen related, kernel26zen no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13909 omnibook-svn-zen 268-1] - Orphan, outdated, seems to be zen related, kernel26zen no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=3247 replex] and [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23505 replex-yacoto] - The latter is an orphan, dead project (project site and source link 404), I've emailed the maintainer to see if he/she knows anything about the project. [[User:Gadget3000|Gadget3000]] 06:25, 14 November 2011 (EST)<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10337 soma] - Orphan, dead project (source links 404 and download links have been removed from the project page), mirrors exist but it's an old project from 2007.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10338 somaplayer] - Orphan, dead project (source links 404 and download links have been removed from the project page), mirrors exist but it's an old project from 2007.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10339 somax] - Orphan, dead project (source links 404 and download links have been removed from the project page), mirrors exist but it's an old project from 2007.<br />
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Many stardict packages have dead source links because the project died due to copyright claims, but did re-emerge elsewhere. It should be looked into whether or not these packages also infringe upon copyright.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13908 truecrypt-zen 4.3a-2] - Orphan, outdated, deps not specified (seems to be zen related), kernel26zen no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13907 v86d-zen 0.1.3-2] - Orphan, outdated, deps not specified (seems to be zen related), kernel26zen no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=34674 vhba-module-zen 1.2.1-2] - Orphan, outdated, depends on kernel26zen which no longer exists, nor does linux-zen or linuxzen. However there is a maintained [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44068 zen-kernel] in the AUR.<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=1454 wax 0.3.16-1] - Orphan, outdated, relies on unavailable python 2.5, development stopped since 2006.<br />
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== List of packages to keep ==<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23350 qu] - Possibly dead but according to google's cache the site was last up on the 4th November 2011. I've emailed the upstream project leader for more info. [[User:Gadget3000|Gadget3000]] 10:06, 12 November 2011 (EST) I got a response and for now the upstream maintainer has put the project into hibernation because he doesn't have enough time to spend on it, so although the project's future is looking bleak, it isn't dead. [[User:Gadget3000|Gadget3000]] 12:09, 12 November 2011 (EST)<br />
== Removed packages ==<br />
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[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2125 tex-unicode] - Orphan, dead project, dead project page and source links, I can't find any mirrors. - Removed, LaTeX and TeXlive have unicode-support for long (StefanHusmann, TU).</div>Eduardo