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[https://www.mozilla.org/ Mozilla] [https://www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/ Thunderbird] is an email, newsgroup, and news feed client designed around simplicity and full-featuredness, while avoiding bloat. It supports POP, IMAP, SMTP, S/MIME, and OpenPGP encryption (through the [[Thunderbird#EnigMail - Encryption|Enigmail extension]]). Similarly to [[Firefox]], it has a wide variety of extension and addons available for download that add more features.<br />
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== Installation ==<br />
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[[pacman|Install]] {{Pkg|thunderbird}} from the [[official repositories]].<br />
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Other alternatives from the [[AUR]] include:<br />
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*{{AUR|thunderbird-esr-bin}} (a [http://www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/organizations/ long-term] supported version)<br />
*{{AUR|thunderbird-beta-bin}} (the official [http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/channel/ cutting-edge] version by Mozilla)<br />
*{{AUR|thunderbird-nightly}} (a [https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/nightly/latest-comm-central/ nightly] version)<br />
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There are a number of language packs available, if English is not your preferred language. To see a list of available language packs, try:<br />
$ pacman -Ss thunderbird-i18n<br />
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== Extensions ==<br />
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=== EnigMail - Encryption ===<br />
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[https://www.enigmail.net EnigMail] is an extension that allows writing and receiving email signed and/or encrypted with the OpenPGP standard. It relies on the [[Wikipedia:GNU Privacy Guard|GNU Privacy Guard (GnuPG)]].<br />
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It can be installed from [https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/addon/enigmail/ addons.mozilla.org] (e.g. through the {{ic|Add-ons Manager}}) or the [[AUR]]. Common packages are: {{AUR|thunderbird-enigmail}} and {{AUR|thunderbird-enigmail-bin}}.<br />
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==== Sharing the public key ====<br />
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There are a variety of ways to distribute the public key. One way is to upload it to a public keyserver network. Another is to share it with friends who are also using email encryption.<br />
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==== Encrypting emails ====<br />
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First of all, encryption does not always work properly with emails containing HTML. It is best to make all of the encrypted emails plain text by choosing ''Options > Delivery Format > Plain Text Only'' in the new email window.<br />
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Once the email is finished it can be signed through the ''OpenPGP'' menu.<br />
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==== Decrypting emails ====<br />
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Assuming that the email was encrypted properly, just trying to open it should result in a popup window asking to type in the keyphrase.<br />
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==== Removing Information Disclosure in Email and OpenPGP Headers ====<br />
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By default, Enigmail discloses unnecessary information in the email headers of the sent email and in the OpenPGP comment field. This information includes the fact that Enigmail is being used and which version. Both these can be disabled in the Thunder Config Editor (<code>Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> General -> Config Editor</code>)<br />
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To delete the email header (X-Enigmail-version) set <code>extensions.enigmail.addHeaders</code> to '''false'''. <br />
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Counter-intuitively, to disable the the OpenPGP comment, set the <code>extensions.enigmail.useDefaultComment</code> to '''true'''.<br />
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Users who do this will also be interested in disabling the user-agent email header that advertises that the sender is using Thunderbird. Enable the setting <code>general.useragent.enable_overrides</code> and set <code>general.useragent.override</code> to a blank string.<br />
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=== Lightning - Calendar ===<br />
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[https://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/lightning/ Lightning] is a calendar extension that brings [[Wikipedia:Sunbird|Sunbird's]] functionality to Thunderbird. You can use [https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/addon/lightning/ addons.mozilla.org] or the [[AUR]] package {{AUR|thunderbird-lightning-bin}} to install Lightning.<br />
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=== FireTray - Tray icon ===<br />
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FireTray is an extension that adds a customizable system tray icon for Thunderbird. It can be installed from [https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/addon/firetray/ addons.mozilla.org] or the [[AUR]] package {{AUR|thunderbird-firetray}}.<br />
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== Tips and tricks ==<br />
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=== Setting the default browser ===<br />
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{{Note|Since version 24 the {{ic|network.protocol-handler.app.*}} keys have no effect and will not be able to set the default browser.}}<br />
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Recent versions of Thunderbird use the default browser as defined by the [[Default applications|system MIME settings]]. This is commonly modified by the Gnome Control Center (''Gnome Control Center > Details > Default Applications > Web'') (available in: {{Pkg|gnome-control-center}}).<br />
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This can be overridden in Thunderbird through ''Edit > Preferences > Advanced > General > Config Editor'' by searching for {{ic|network.protocol-handler.warn-external}}.<br />
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If the following three are all set to {{ic|false}} (default), turn them to {{ic|true}}, and then Thunderbird will ask you when clicking on links which application to use. Depending on the chosen desktop, common values include {{ic|/usr/bin/firefox}}, {{ic|/usr/bin/google-chrome-stable}}, {{ic|/usr/bin/exo-open}} (Xfce) or {{ic|/usr/bin/xdg-open}} (non-DE environments). Remember to check ''"Remember my choice for .. links"''.<br />
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network.protocol-handler.warn-external.ftp<br />
network.protocol-handler.warn-external.http<br />
network.protocol-handler.warn-external.https<br />
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=== Plain Text mode and font uniformity ===<br />
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Plain Text mode lets you view all your emails without HTML rendering and is available in ''View > Message Body As''. This defaults to the [[Wikipedia:Monospace_(Unicode)|Monospace]] font but the size is still inherited from original system fontconfig settings. The following example will overwrite this with Ubuntu Mono of 10 pixels (available in: {{Pkg|ttf-ubuntu-font-family}}).<br />
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Remember to run {{ic|fc-cache -fv}} to update system font cache. See [[Font Configuration]] for more information.<br />
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{{hc|~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf|<nowiki><br />
<?xml version="1.0"?><br />
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd"><br />
<fontconfig><br />
<match target="pattern"><br />
<test qual="any" name="family"><string>monospace</string></test><br />
<edit name="family" mode="assign" binding="same"><string>Ubuntu Mono</string></edit><br />
<!-- For Thunderbird, lowering default font size to 10 for uniformity --><br />
<edit name="pixelsize" mode="assign"><int>10</int></edit><br />
</match><br />
</fontconfig><br />
</nowiki>}}<br />
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=== Webmail with Thunderbird ===<br />
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Please see upstream Wiki: [http://kb.mozillazine.org/Using_webmail_with_your_email_client Using webmail with your email client].<br />
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== Troubleshooting ==<br />
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=== LDAP Segfault ===<br />
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An [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=292127 LDAP clash (Bugzilla#292127)] arises on systems configured to use it to fetch user information. A possible [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=292127#c7 workaround] consists of renaming the conflicting bundled LDAP library.</div>Jaredcasperhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Java&diff=226721Java2012-10-03T17:17:42Z<p>Jaredcasper: AUR does has the Oracle JVM for Java SE 6, and removing link to deleted page.</p>
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<div>[[Category:Programming language]]<br />
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{{Article summary text|This article explains how to install and configure JRE/JDK.}}<br />
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{{Article summary wiki|Java Package Guidelines}}<br />
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"''Java is a programming language originally developed by Sun Microsystems and released in 1995 as a core component of Sun Microsystems' Java platform. The language derives much of its syntax from C and C++ but has a simpler object model and fewer low-level facilities. Java applications are typically compiled to bytecode that can run on any Java virtual machine (JVM) regardless of computer architecture.''" &mdash; [[Wikipedia:Java (programming language)|Wikipedia article]]<br />
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== Installation ==<br />
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The only JVM implementation in supported repositories is the open source [http://openjdk.java.net/ OpenJDK]. Additional Java implementations are available via the [[AUR]]. Keep in mind that the open-source and closed-source versions cannot be installed simultaneously. The open-source version is nearly perfect at the time of writing, and there is mostly no need anymore to install Oracle's proprietary version of Java.<br />
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{{Note|After installation, the Java environment will need recognized by the shell ({{Ic|$PATH}} variable and {{Ic|$JAVA_HOME}}). This can be done from the command line by sourcing {{Ic|/etc/profile}}, and for Desktop Environments it is likely a logout/login will be necessary.}}<br />
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=== OpenJDK JVM ===<br />
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To be able to run Java programs, you can install [[Wikipedia:JRE|Java runtime]] with the package {{Pkg|jre7-openjdk}}, available in the [[official repositories]]. There is also a [[Wikipedia:JDK|Java Development Kit]] in {{Pkg|jdk7-openjdk}}. For those interested in the old Java v6, both JRE6 and JDK6 can be found in {{Pkg|openjdk6}}.<br />
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You will likely need the {{Pkg|icedtea-web-java7}} package for Java functionality in browsers, namely [[Wikipedia:Java applet|applets]] and [[Wikipedia:Java Web Start|Web Start]] (for more details see [[Browser Plugins#Java]]).<br />
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{{Note|If you use a non-reparenting window manager and Java 6, you should uncomment the corresponding line in {{Ic|/etc/profile.d/openjdk6.sh}}}}<br />
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=== Oracle JVM ===<br />
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Prior to the [http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2011-August/021671.html retirement of the Oracle DLJ], it was possible to simply install the {{Ic|jre}} and {{Ic|jdk}} packages from the repositories. However, now Arch Linux (and any other GNU/Linux distribution) can no longer package the Oracle implementation of Java. The OpenJDK packages are the recommended providers of {{Ic|java-runtime}} and {{Ic|java-environment}}.<br />
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AUR contains packages for {{AUR|jre}} and {{AUR|jdk}}, the Oracle implementations of Java.<br />
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=== Oracle JVM (Java 6) ===<br />
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AUR contains package for {{AUR|jre6}} and {{AUR|jdk6}}, which are the Oracle implementations of Java SE 6. These packages conflict with the other java packages, so there are also {{AUR|jre6-compat}} and {{AUR|jdk6-compat}} which can be used along side other java installations.<br />
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=== Apache Harmony ===<br />
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[http://harmony.apache.org/ Apache Harmony] is a clean room re-implementation of the Java language and comes under the Free Apache license. A binary re-distribution of the Harmony JRE can be found in the AUR: {{AUR|apache-harmony-jre}}.<br />
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=== Kaffe ===<br />
[http://www.kaffe.org/ Kaffe] is another clean-room implementation of a Java VM without official endorsement from Sun/Oracle. A [[git]] package of Kaffe can be found in the [[AUR]] here: {{AUR|kaffe-git}}. The Kaffe VM is redistributed according to the GPL license.<br />
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=== BEA JRockit JIT JVM (+JDK) ===<br />
[[Wikipedia:JRockit|JRockit]] is JIT version of Java, provided by Oracle and available from the AUR here: {{AUR|jrockit}}.<br />
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=== VMkit LLVM-based JIT VM ===<br />
[http://vmkit.llvm.org/index.html VMkit] is an LLVM-based framework for JIT virtual machines. J3 is a JVM running on VMkit. A broken build for VMkit can be found in the [[AUR]] here: {{AUR|vmkit-svn}}. J3 depends on the GNU classpath libraries, but may also work with the Apache class path libraries.<br />
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=== Parrot VM ===<br />
The [http://www.archlinux.org/packages/?q=parrot Parrot VM] offers experimental [http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/wiki/Languages support for Java] through two different methods: Either as a [http://code.google.com/p/parrot-jvm/ Java VM bytecode translator] or as a [https://github.com/chrisdolan/perk Java compiler targeting the Parrot VM]. Available in the AUR package {{AUR|parrot-git}}.<br />
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== Troubleshooting ==<br />
=== MySQL ===<br />
Due to the fact that the JDBC-drivers often use the port in the URL to establish a connection to the database, it is considered "remote" (i.e., MySQL does not listen to the port as per its default settings) despite the fact that they are possibly running on the same host, Thus, to use JDBC and MySQL you should enable remote access to MySQL, following instructions in [[MySQL#Enable remote access|MySQL article]].<br />
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=== Java sound with Pulseaudio ===<br />
{{Note|This procedure is likely to be relevant for previous version of Java (Java 6) only.}}<br />
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By default, Java and [[Pulseaudio]] do not get along very well with each other, but this is easy to fix using padsp.<br />
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(These paths are correct for Sun's Java, you will need to change the paths for OpenJDK)<br />
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First, rename the {{Ic|java}} binary to {{Ic|java.bin}}<br />
# mv /opt/java/jre/bin/java /opt/java/jre/bin/java.bin<br />
Then, create a new launcher script at {{Ic|/opt/java/jre/bin/java}}<br />
#!/bin/sh<br />
padsp /opt/java/jre/bin/java.bin "$@"<br />
Finally, make the launcher script executable<br />
# chmod +x /opt/java/jre/bin/java<br />
You will need to redo this process on each update of Java.<br />
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You can also try replacing padsp with aoss, which can also fix it under standard ALSA as well as in Pulse, do what works best. I must warn everyone that these hacks sometimes work perfect, but are sometimes very unstable as well.<br />
=== Impersonate Another Window Manager ===<br />
You may use the {{pkg|wmname}} from [http://tools.suckless.org/wmname suckless.org] to make the JVM believe you are running a different window manager. This may solve a rendering issue of Java GUIs occuring in window managers like [[Awesome]] or [[Dwm]].<br />
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<pre>$ wmname LG3D</pre><br />
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(You must restart the application in question after issuing the wmname command.)<br />
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This works because the JVM contains a hard-coded list of known non-re-parenting window managers. For maximum irony, many users prefer to impersonate &ldquo;<code>LG3D</code>,&rdquo; the non-re-parenting window manager [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Looking_Glass written by Sun, in Java].<br />
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== Tips and tricks ==<br />
{{Note|Suggestions in this section are applicable to all applications, using explicitly installed (external) Java runtime. Some applications are bundled with own (private) runtime or use own mechanics for GUI, font rendering, etc., so none of written below is guaranteed to work.}}<br />
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Behavior of most Java applications can be controlled by supplying predefined variables to Java runtime. From [https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=72892 this forum post], a way to do it consists of adding the following line in your {{Ic|~/.bashrc}} (or {{Ic|/etc/profile.d/jre.sh}} to affect all users):<br />
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export _JAVA_OPTIONS="-D'''<option 1>''' -D'''<option 2>'''..."<br />
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For example, to use system anti-aliased fonts and make swing use the GTK look and feel:<br />
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export _JAVA_OPTIONS='-Dawt.useSystemAAFontSettings=on -Dswing.aatext=true -Dswing.defaultlaf=com.sun.java.swing.plaf.gtk.GTKLookAndFeel'<br />
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=== Better font rendering ===<br />
Both closed source and open source implementations of Java are known to have improperly implemented anti-aliasing of fonts. This can be fixed with the following options: {{Ic|1=awt.useSystemAAFontSettings=on}}, {{Ic|1=swing.aatext=true}}<br />
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=== GTK LookAndFeel ===<br />
If your Java programs look ugly, you may want to set up the default look and feel for the swing components: {{Ic|1=swing.defaultlaf=com.sun.java.swing.plaf.gtk.GTKLookAndFeel}}.</div>Jaredcasperhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Talk:Udev&diff=215565Talk:Udev2012-07-30T07:04:55Z<p>Jaredcasper: /* remove the "automounting usb devices" udev rules ? */</p>
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<div>== usbtiny extra udev rule? ==<br />
In the udev rules for usbtiny, there are 2 rules listed. Howver, adding the second one to my udev rules resulted in me not an "rc=-1" communication error when I tried to use my usbtiny. When I commented out this rule:<br />
"SBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="16c0", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0479", GROUP="users", MODE="0666"<br />
everything worked fine. Not sure what the root of the issue is, but this rule makes the usbtiny programer unusable.<br />
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== umask fails to apply to vfat/ntfs partitions ==<br />
Has anyone else found that umask settings do not apply as they should? Setting umask to 002 or 0002 results in all files having the executable bit enabled. However, if I manually set the fmask/dmask values (ex: fmask=113,dmask=002) it works fine. --[[User:Thayer|thayer]] 16:40, 5 May 2010 (EDT)<br />
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== Possible to Auto Mount Optical Discs? ==<br />
Is there a way to auto mount CD and DVDs with Udev? --[[User:Matthewbauer|Matthewbauer]] 23:12, 30 May 2010 (EDT)<br />
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: I think I hacked up a way and added to the page. --[[User:Matthewbauer|Matthewbauer]] 00:16, 31 May 2010 (EDT)<br />
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: With that rule udev will take a lot longer to "process events" during boot. (+-10s more than without it) --[[User:vieira|Vieira]] 02:20, 26 June 2010 (GMT)<br />
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== Wrong command ==<br />
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It's not really wrong, just uselessly complex.<br />
udevadm info -a -p $(udevadm info -q path -n [device name])<br />
we are querying a path-based info, passing as parameter a name-based info query. We can obtain the same results with this much more rational command<br />
udevadm info -a -n [device name]<br />
This is not the only place in the web where I found this strange thing. :/<br />
--[[User:4javier|4javier]] 07:14, 24 September 2010 (EDT)<br />
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== Obsolete information? ==<br />
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Today (Dec 5 2010) I've been following the instruction in the wiki, I've found that udiskie isn't required to autoload CDs/DVSs without HAL, udisks works perfectly without it... only need to explicitly add dbus daemon loading to my rc.conf --[[User:RkG|RkG]] 02:42, 5 December 2010 (EST)<br />
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:are you using a DE? udiskie is intended for people without one [[User:Thestinger|thestinger]] 02:54, 5 December 2010 (EST)<br />
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::I'm using just a window manager (Xmonad, init-3 level), but installed Gnome also for other members of my family. But really I'm not in a Gnome session :-? --[[User:RkG|RkG]] 00:59, 6 December 2010 (EST)<br />
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:::do you use a file manager? pcmanfm and nautilus will both use udev and mount the disks automatically [[User:Thestinger|thestinger]] 13:47, 6 December 2010 (EST)<br />
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::::Yes, I'm using pcmanfm... maybe this should be reflected in the wiki as is a very easy option to control removable devices, inside xorg and with any window manager without having to mess with udev rules. Additionally I spawn a command at the begin of my sessions to automount a external 3.5' USB drive permanently plugged to my computer (udisks --mount /dev/sdXX) This "automount" integrates well with pcmanfm, and requires no additional utilities. (Also for pcmanfm compatibility, I need to start my session with "exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session $WM") --[[User:RkG|RkG]] 02:17, 7 December 2010 (EST)<br />
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== SD cards don't cleanly umount ==<br />
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...because the rule as given creates a link: RUN+="/bin/ln -s /media/sd-%k /mnt/sd-%k" which is not deleted on removal. --[[User:Ideopath72|Ideopath72]] 08:44, 18 December 2010 (EST)<br />
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== How to match devices like /dev/sdb42 ==<br />
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https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=882211#p882211<br />
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I'm not and udev guru, but why sometimes it's<br />
KERNEL!="sd[a-z][0-9]"<br />
and in other examples<br />
KERNEL!="sd[a-z]*"<br />
?<br />
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Why not put<br />
KERNEL!="sd[a-z][0-9]*"<br />
everywhere?<br />
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[[User:Karol|Karol]] 10:11, 23 January 2011 (EST)<br />
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:Some devices do not have any partitions, so you also want to match /dev/sdb for example that contains the filesystem in such a case. KERNEL!="sd[a-z]*" is the only expression that works for these ones. [[User:Xduugu|Xduugu]] 09:24, 5 February 2011 (EST)<br />
::I actually have such device - it's one of my mp3 players; the other one shows up as sdb1. I couldn't figure out how to make it work until I figured out it's not regexp (where '*' means 'zero or more', so "sd[a-z][0-9]*" would work even for 'sdb'), but a globbing pattern. [[User:Karol|Karol]] 09:49, 5 February 2011 (EST)<br />
:::Hey, that is a very nice tip, thanks! We should incorporate this information in the article somehow, I tried to change the pattern like it were a regex, and was very puzzled it didn't work. -- [[User:Nic|Nic]] 11:22, 5 November 2011 (EDT)<br />
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== Worth Mentioning? ==<br />
In the section on how to prevent wireless and ethernet network devices from switching names would it be worth mentioning that the hardware addresses can also be obtained from ifconfig? It seems a slightly more obvious way of doing it to me.<br />
:[http://www.archlinux.org/news/deprecation-of-net-tools/ net-tools (the package that provides ifconfig) was deprecated in favor of iproute2] so probably [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Requests#net-tools_-.3E_iproute2 that's why it doesn't mention ifconfig].<br />
:Please sign the edits you make on the discussion pages. -- [[User:Karol|Karol]] 20:59, 15 July 2011 (EDT)<br />
::However, running: {{bc|$ ip addr}} will also give you the MAC address ({{ic|link/ether xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx}}) [[User:Axanon|Axanon]] 16:40, 25 March 2012 (EDT)<br />
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== remove the "automounting usb devices" udev rules ? ==<br />
considering [https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=143023 this discussion], I think the whole section should be removed. We shouldn't suggest to people to use this, there are [[Udev#Automounting_UDisks_Wrappers|Udisks Wrappers]] for this. Any objections? [[User:65kid|65kid]] ([[User talk:65kid|talk]]) 11:06, 10 June 2012 (UTC)<br />
: + 1 for me. Normal user should never touch these. However, you'd better leave a link or two about how to write udev rules manully. -- [[User:Fengchao|Fengchao]] ([[User talk:Fengchao|talk]]) 06:08, 12 June 2012 (UTC)<br />
:: BTW: As of systemd 185-1, the deleted scripts were broken for NTFS partitions, yielding only "Transport endpoint is not connected". They still worked with classic initscripts, though. -- [[User:Misc|Misc]] ([[User talk:Misc|talk]]) 13:29, 20 June 2012 (UTC)<br />
: I'll disagree. udisks{1,2} needs '''PolKit''', which I doubt is ever needed for normal setup and almost always is a PITA in configuration by itself. It '''is''' needed, though, for big and fat DE such as KDE, Gnome or even XFCE. But not for "home brew" environments. Neither who uses those big DE are going to write udev rules by themselves nor they are to install udisks and wrappers (as KDE, Gnome or XFCE brings their own automounting). As you removed the tips, you deprived those who wants their own setup of valuable information. The discussion you mention just reveals lack of the documentation and examples on UDev rules. ANd you propose just hide the KISS way and expose wrappers and bloatware of PolKit and UDisks. [[User:Lux|Lux]] ([[User talk:Lux|talk]]) 18:56, 27 July 2012 (UTC)<br />
:: I'm with Lux. I spent a while searching for these rules and was sad to see them gone. Maybe a separate wiki page with a link from here? [[User:Jaredcasper|Jaredcasper]] ([[User talk:Jaredcasper|talk]]) 07:04, 30 July 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Extract the UDisks into new article ==<br />
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As UDev is more generic than just disk mounting subsystem, I propose to extract the UDisks part into its own page to keep things simple and clear. [[User:Lux|Lux]] ([[User talk:Lux|talk]]) 19:32, 27 July 2012 (UTC)</div>Jaredcasper