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=== ArchLinux Wiki ===<br />
歡迎使用 [[ArchLinux]] 共筆系統 (Wiki). <br />
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* [[ArchLinux (繁體中文)]]<br />
* [[Arch vs 其他發行版]]<br />
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* [[The Arch Way]]<br />
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==== Wiki 最新消息 ====<br />
有時候,有些最新消息值得我們發佈一則新聞稿, 但是可能只和 wiki 有關. 關於這些只和 wiki 有關係的消息, 請參閱 [[Wiki News]] 這一頁.<br />
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==== 自己動手試看看 ====<br />
這是一份關於 wiki 內幾篇主要文章的名單. 大部分的時候,你都可以直接使用在頁面左方(或是右方)的 <b>瀏覽主題列 (navigation bar)</b> 來開始瀏覽 wiki 頁面的內容, 然後使用頁面上方的 <b>分頁選項 (panels)</b> 來開始編輯某個頁面的內容. 在每個頁面的最下方,你則可以找到連接到其他 Arch Linux 網站的連接. <br />
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==== How Tos 教學篇 ====<br />
在設定某個軟體(硬體)時遇到困難?不知道該去哪裡找解答和資料?<br><br />
我們建議你先從 [[:Category:HowTos (繁體中文)|HowTos category]] 開始搜尋起,一般而言,你應該可以在這找到你需要的資訊。 先找出你的問題可能屬於的類別 (categories), 然後是著搜尋一下相關的主題。如果你還是無法找到需要的資訊,你可以試看看頁面左方,就在瀏覽主題列 (Navigation bar) 下方的的搜尋功能 (search box).<br />
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==== 建立你自己的頁面 ====<br />
在建立/編輯一個頁面的內容前,你必須先建立你的帳號. 當你建立好自己的帳號後,請先試著在 [[Sandbox]] (沙盒)裡面測試並熟悉一下 ArchWiki 所使用的排版語法 (markups). 你自己的 user page 也是個你可以用來測試和練習的好地方. 在 [[:Category:Help|Wiki Help Category]] 這一個頁面,你可以找到關於如何使用這些語法的簡介和範例. 你隨時都可以在頁面左方的瀏覽主題列上找到這個頁面的連接.<br />
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==== 負責人 ====<br />
任何問題或是建議請參閱 [[ContactList]] 的負責人聯絡名單<br />
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=== ArchLinux Wiki ===<br />
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==== Новости Wiki ====<br />
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==== Что можно сделать ====<br />
Большую часть wiki можно просмотреть с помощью <b> навигационной панели</b> с левой и правой сторон, <b>панели</b> редактирования и функций находятся сверху. В нижней части вы найдете ссылки на другие сайты об ArchLinux.<br />
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==== How Tos ====<br />
Проблемы с настройкой чего либо? Не знаете где найти решение? <br><br />
Есть шанс, что вы найдете что нибудь полезное для себя в [[:Category:HowTos|категории HowTos ]]. Пройдитесь по категориям и попытайтесь найти нужную информацию. Если не найдете, попытайтесь воспользоваться строкой поиска под панелью навигации.<br />
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==== Создание своих собственных страниц ====<br />
Для того, чтобы начать редактировать страницы, для начала, нужно создать учетную запись. После этого, можно поиграться в [[Sandbox|песочнице]] или на странице пользователя для ознакомления с разметкой ArchWiki. Краткий справочник по синтаксису находится в [[:Category:Help|категории Wiki Help]]. Эта ссылка также есть и в навигационной панели.<br />
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'''A)''' This question has had much debate. Arch is targeted at more advanced Linux users, but some people feel "Arch is a good place to start". If you are a beginner and want to use Arch, just be warned that you MUST be willing to learn. Before asking any question, do your own independent research by googling, searching the Wiki, and searching the forum (and reading past FAQs). If you do that, you should be fine. Also know that many people do not want to answer the same basic questions over and over, so you are exposing yourself to that environment. There is a reason these resources were created/made available to you. You could reference the [[ArchLinux Newbie Guide]] <br />
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==Q) I've found an error with package X, what should I do?==<br />
'''A)''' First you need to figure out if this error is something the Arch team can fix. Sometimes it's not (that firefox crash may be the fault of the Mozilla team) - this is called an ''upstream error''. If it is an Arch problem, there are a series of steps you can take:<br />
#Search the forums for information. See if anyone else has noticed it.<br />
#Notify the package maintainer. Try a "pacman -Qi <package name>" for this info.<br />
#Post a bug report, with detailed information at http://bugs.archlinux.org<br />
#Write a forum post if you'd like, detailing the problem and the fact that you have reported it already. This will help prevent alot of people from reporting the same error.<br />
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==Q) Will Arch have a database for pacman?==<br />
'''A)''' Possibly. There is discussion over the issue.<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11193<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=10898<br />
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==Q) Pacman is slow! How can initial start times be improved?==<br />
'''A)''' See previous entry relating to a database backend for pacman. Only the first pacman run after a boot should be slow. After that, things are generally cached. Still, initial start time is an issue for some people. There is discussion on addressing this.<br />
If you are on ReiserFS, there are issues with fragmentation that slow down pacman more than necessary. See this thread for help:<br />
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Since version 2.9.6, the pacman package bundles a bash script called <tt>pacman-optimize</tt> that should help anyone experiencing slow start-up times.<br />
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==Q) Arch packages need to use a unique naming convention. .pkg.tar.gz is too long, and or, confusing==<br />
'''A)''' This has been discussed on the Arch mailing list. Some proposed a .pac file extension. As far as is currently known, there is no plan to change the package extension.<br />
As Tobias Kieslich, one of the Arch devs, put it, "A package '''is''' a gzipped tarball! And it can be opened, investigated and manipulated by any tar capable application. Moreover, the mime-type is automatically detected correctly by most applications."<br />
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==Q) Pacman needs a library so other applications can easily access package information==<br />
'''A)''' A library for pacman is in progress.<br />
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==Q) Pacman needs a front-end==<br />
'''A)''' Did you read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [http://www.archlinux.org/docs/en/guide/devland/devland.html DevLand]?<br />
The answer is basically that the Arch dev team will not be providing one. Feel free to use one of the user provided ones available. There is a nice list of them [[UserContributionsPage]], in the links section.<br />
Once the library for pacman is done, it will be much easier to the various frontends to interact with Arch packages.<br />
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==Q) Pacman needs feature X!==<br />
'''A)''' Did you read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [[Devland]]?<br />
The Arch philosophy is "Keep It Simple". If you think the idea has merit, and does not violate this simple litany, then by all means, discuss it on the forum [http://bbs.archlinux.org/ here]<br />
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==Q) Arch needs a better installer. Maybe a GUI installer.==<br />
'''A)''' The discussion of a "better" installer is a subjective opinion. The best way to cope with these issues it to fit the installer<br />
to "the arch way". If this opinion on a better installer is backed with more concrete arguments, it might be taken into account for further development of the installer.<br />
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==Q) Arch needs more press (ie advertisement)==<br />
'''A)''' Arch gets plenty of press as it is. The goal of ArchLinux is not to be large. The goal is to be well done. Let growth occur naturally. Trying to force it to grow too quickly will just cause problems.<br />
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==Q) Arch needs less press==<br />
'''A)''' Similarly to what is stated above, do not try to restrict the natural growth. More users might mean more devs to work on ArchLinux. This may cause some organizational issues at the "top", but those will be dealt with when they arrive.<br />
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==Q) Arch needs more devs==<br />
'''A)''' Possibly so. Feel free to volunteer your time! Visit the forums, irc channel, mailing lists, and see what needs to be done.<br />
There is always a need for documentation, see [[DocumentRequests]] for anything pending.<br />
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==Q) Arch needs a stable package branch==<br />
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COMMENT: "For me, In short, Arch is Rock-solid enough."<br />
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REPLY: It depends what type of work we are frequently using our machine. Example, in office work we don't want our printer to stop working or in multimedia our cd burning. Or web developing our ftp client. Currently I am annoyed with kde-3.4 when I lost all my bookmarks in kbear (ftp). New bookmark cannot be saved.<br />
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SOLUTION: There is a '''release''' '''repo''' what does as stable though not having all packages. There are thoughs of including all (kde, gnome, etc). <br><br />
ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/release/os/i686/<br />
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Read more: <br><br />
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==Q) Arch needs more documentation==<br />
'''A)''' Documentation does not occur ex-nihilo. After searching the forums, and the wiki, if you cannot find the documentation you require, try creating it. Start a page on the wiki, and post in the forums regarding it. Likely other people have experience in the area, or are at least willing to help.<br />
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==Q) Arch needs to be more "newbie" friendly==<br />
'''A)''' Before we start a discussion about newbie-friendliness, we first need to define "newbie-friendliness". Please refer to the Question about a better installer.<br />
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==Q) Newbies are annoying. Make them go away.==<br />
'''A)''' <Philosophical discussion><br />
Part of being human is accepting others being human too.<br />
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The best way to cope with newbies is not to judge them beforehand. Somebody may have a common problem, even if they have read the docs;<br />
everybody misses sometimes. Shouting at them will not help. Use your best behaviour and ignore people you don't like instead of starting a fight.<br />
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Newbies are best helped in guiding them to find the right information. Especially newbies that come from windows may have a hard time finding information; it's not always in the place they would expect. Compare it to finding the right word for the right<br />
job: you can ask your teacher to look up a certain word for you, and you'll always forget what it means. However, if you look up the word for yourself in a dictionary, you'll never forget it for the rest of your life.<br />
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'''A)''' <add info here><br />
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==Q) I am a complete Linux beginner. Should I use Arch?==<br />
'''A)''' This question has had much debate. Arch is targeted at more advanced Linux users, but some people feel "Arch is a good place to start". If you are a beginner and want to use Arch, just be warned that you MUST be willing to learn. Before asking any question, do your own independent research by googling, searching the Wiki, and searching the forum (and reading past FAQs). If you do that, you should be fine. Also know that many people do not want to answer the same basic questions over and over, so you are exposing yourself to that environment. There is a reason these resources were created/made available to you. You could reference the [[ArchLinux Newbie Guide]] <br />
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==Q) I've found an error with package X, what should I do?==<br />
'''A)''' First you need to figure out if this error is something the Arch team can fix. Sometimes it's not (that firefox crash may be the fault of the Mozilla team) - this is called an ''upstream error''. If it is an Arch problem, there are a series of steps you can take:<br />
#Search the forums for information. See if anyone else has noticed it.<br />
#Notify the package maintainer. Try a "pacman -Qi <package name>" for this info.<br />
#Post a bug report, with detailed information at http://bugs.archlinux.org<br />
#Write a forum post if you'd like, detailing the problem and the fact that you have reported it already. This will help prevent alot of people from reporting the same error.<br />
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==Q) Will Arch have a database for pacman?==<br />
'''A)''' Possibly. There is discussion over the issue.<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11193<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=10898<br />
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==Q) Pacman is slow! How can initial start times be improved?==<br />
'''A)''' See previous entry relating to a database backend for pacman. Only the first pacman run after a boot should be slow. After that, things are generally cached. Still, initial start time is an issue for some people. There is discussion on addressing this.<br />
If you are on ReiserFS, there are issues with fragmentation that slow down pacman more than necessary. See this thread for help:<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11840<br />
<br />
Since version 2.9.6, the pacman package bundles a bash script called <tt>pacman-optimize</tt> that should help anyone experiencing slow start-up times.<br />
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==Q) Arch packages need to use a unique naming convention. .pkg.tar.gz is too long, and or, confusing==<br />
'''A)''' This has been discussed on the Arch mailing list. Some proposed a .pac file extension. As far as is currently known, there is no plan to change the package extension.<br />
As Tobias Kieslich, one of the Arch devs, put it, "A package '''is''' a gzipped tarball! And it can be opened, investigated and manipulated by any tar capable application. Moreover, the mime-type is automatically detected correctly by most applications."<br />
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==Q) Pacman needs a library so other applications can easily access package information==<br />
'''A)''' A library for pacman is in progress.<br />
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==Q) Pacman needs a front-end==<br />
'''A)''' Did you read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [http://www.archlinux.org/docs/en/guide/devland/devland.html DevLand]?<br />
The answer is basically that the Arch dev team will not be providing one. Feel free to use one of the user provided ones available. There is a nice list of them [[UserContributionsPage]], in the links section.<br />
Once the library for pacman is done, it will be much easier to the various frontends to interact with Arch packages.<br />
Besides: This is not a Question but a statement. ;-) ----<br />
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==Q) Pacman needs feature X!==<br />
'''A)''' Did you read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [[Devland]]?<br />
The Arch philosophy is "Keep It Simple". If you think the idea has merit, and does not violate this simple litany, then by all means, discuss it on the forum [http://bbs.archlinux.org/ here]<br />
You might also like to check [http://bugs.archlinux.org here], it's a place for feature requests if you find it is important. ----<br />
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==Q) Arch needs a better installer. Maybe a GUI installer.==<br />
'''A)''' The discussion of a "better" installer is a subjective opinion. The best way to cope with these issues it to fit the installer<br />
to "the arch way". If this opinion on a better installer is backed with more concrete arguments, it might be taken into account for further development of the installer.<br />
''Windows uses a text based installer, FWIW'' ---- <br />
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==Q) Arch needs more press (ie advertisement)==<br />
'''A)''' Arch gets plenty of press as it is. The goal of ArchLinux is not to be large. The goal is to be well done. Let growth occur naturally. Trying to force it to grow too quickly will just cause problems.<br />
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==Q) Arch needs less press==<br />
'''A)''' Similarly to what is stated above, do not try to restrict the natural growth. More users might mean more devs to work on ArchLinux. This may cause some organizational issues at the "top", but those will be dealt with when they arrive.<br />
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==Q) Arch needs more devs==<br />
'''A)''' Possibly so. Feel free to volunteer your time! Visit the forums, irc channel, mailing lists, and see what needs to be done.<br />
There is always a need for documentation, see [[DocumentRequests]] for anything pending.<br />
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==Q) Arch needs a stable package branch==<br />
'''A)'''<br />
COMMENT: "For me, In short, Arch is Rock-solid enough."<br />
<br />
REPLY: It depends what type of work we are frequently using our machine. Example, in office work we don't want our printer to stop working or in multimedia our cd burning. Or web developing our ftp client. Currently I am annoyed with kde-3.4 when I lost all my bookmarks in kbear (ftp). New bookmark cannot be saved.<br />
<br />
SOLUTION: There is a '''release''' '''repo''' what does as stable though not having all packages. There are thoughs of including all (kde, gnome, etc). <br><br />
ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/release/os/i686/<br />
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Read more: <br><br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11288<br />
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==Q) Arch needs more documentation==<br />
'''A)''' Documentation does not occur ex-nihilo. After searching the forums, and the wiki, if you cannot find the documentation you require, try creating it. Start a page on the wiki, and post in the forums regarding it. Likely other people have experience in the area, or are at least willing to help.<br />
If nobody does, don't be discouraged. When you finish your documentation, other people will likely find it an extremely valuable resource.<br />
There is always a need for documentation, see [[DocumentRequests]] for anything pending. ---- <br />
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==Q) Arch needs to be more "newbie" friendly==<br />
'''A)''' Before we start a discussion about newbie-friendliness, we first need to define "newbie-friendliness". Please refer to the Question about a better installer.<br />
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==Q) Newbies are annoying. Make them go away.==<br />
'''A)''' <Philosophical discussion><br />
Part of being human is accepting others being human too.<br />
</Philosophical discussion><br />
<br />
The best way to cope with newbies is not to judge them beforehand. Somebody may have a common problem, even if they have read the docs;<br />
everybody misses sometimes. Shouting at them will not help. Use your best behaviour and ignore people you don't like instead of starting a fight.<br />
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Newbies are best helped in guiding them to find the right information. Especially newbies that come from windows may have a hard time finding information; it's not always in the place they would expect. Compare it to finding the right word for the right<br />
job: you can ask your teacher to look up a certain word for you, and you'll always forget what it means. However, if you look up the word for yourself in a dictionary, you'll never forget it for the rest of your life.<br />
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==Q) Arch needs a backing business entity==<br />
'''A)''' <add info here><br />
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[[Category:General]]<br />
Read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [[Devland]] first. All three contain a good deal of information about ArchLinux.<br />
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==Q) I am a complete Linux beginner. Should I use Arch?==<br />
'''A)''' This question has had much debate. Arch is targeted at more advanced Linux users, but some people feel "Arch is a good place to start". If you are a beginner and want to use Arch, just be warned that you MUST be willing to learn. Before asking any question, do your own independent research by googling, searching the Wiki, and searching the forum (and reading past FAQs). If you do that, you should be fine. Also know that many people do not want to answer the same basic questions over and over, so you are exposing yourself to that environment. There is a reason these resources were created/made available to you. You could reference the [[ArchLinux Newbie Guide]] <br />
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==Q) I've found an error with package X, what should I do?==<br />
'''A)''' First you need to figure out if this error is something the Arch team can fix. Sometimes it's not (that firefox crash may be the fault of the Mozilla team) - this is called an ''upstream error''. If it is an Arch problem, there are a series of steps you can take:<br />
#Search the forums for information. See if anyone else has noticed it.<br />
#Notify the package maintainer. Try a "pacman -Qi <package name>" for this info.<br />
#Post a bug report, with detailed information at http://bugs.archlinux.org<br />
#Write a forum post if you'd like, detailing the problem and the fact that you have reported it already. This will help prevent alot of people from reporting the same error.<br />
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==Q) Will Arch have a database for pacman?==<br />
'''A)''' Possibly. There is discussion over the issue.<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11193<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=10898<br />
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==Q) Pacman is slow! How can initial start times be improved?==<br />
'''A)''' See previous entry relating to a database backend for pacman. Only the first pacman run after a boot should be slow. After that, things are generally cached. Still, initial start time is an issue for some people. There is discussion on addressing this.<br />
If you are on ReiserFS, there are issues with fragmentation that slow down pacman more than necessary. See this thread for help:<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11840<br />
<br />
Since version 2.9.6, the pacman package bundles a bash script called <tt>pacman-optimize</tt> that should help anyone experiencing slow start-up times.<br />
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==Q) Arch packages need to use a unique naming convention. .pkg.tar.gz is too long, and or, confusing==<br />
'''A)''' This has been discussed on the Arch mailing list. Some proposed a .pac file extension. As far as is currently known, there is no plan to change the package extension.<br />
As Tobias Kieslich, one of the Arch devs, put it, "A package '''is''' a gzipped tarball! And it can be opened, investigated and manipulated by any tar capable application. Moreover, the mime-type is automatically detected correctly by most applications."<br />
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==Q) Pacman needs a library so other applications can easily access package information==<br />
'''A)''' A library for pacman is in progress.<br />
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==Q) Pacman needs a front-end==<br />
'''A)''' Did you read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [http://www.archlinux.org/docs/en/guide/devland/devland.html DevLand]?<br />
The answer is basically that the Arch dev team will not be providing one. Feel free to use one of the user provided ones available. There is a nice list of them [[UserContributionsPage]], in the links section.<br />
Once the library for pacman is done, it will be much easier to the various frontends to interact with Arch packages.<br />
Besides: This is not a Question but a statement. ;-) ----<br />
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==Q) Pacman needs feature X!==<br />
'''A)''' Did you read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [[Devland]]?<br />
The Arch philosophy is "Keep It Simple". If you think the idea has merit, and does not violate this simple litany, then by all means, discuss it on the forum [http://bbs.archlinux.org/ here]<br />
You might also like to check [http://bugs.archlinux.org here], it's a place for feature requests if you find it is important. ---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs a better installer. Maybe a GUI installer.==<br />
'''A)''' The discussion of a "better" installer is a subjective opinion. The best way to cope with these issues it to fit the installer<br />
to "the arch way". If this opinion on a better installer is backed with more concrete arguments, it might be taken into account for further development of the installer.<br />
''Windows uses a text based installer, FWIW'' ---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs more press (ie advertisement)==<br />
'''A)''' Arch gets plenty of press as it is. The goal of ArchLinux is not to be large. The goal is to be well done. Let growth occur naturally. Trying to force it to grow too quickly will just cause problems.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs less press==<br />
'''A)''' Similarly to what is stated above, do not try to restrict the natural growth. More users might mean more devs to work on ArchLinux. This may cause some organizational issues at the "top", but those will be dealt with when they arrive.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs more devs==<br />
'''A)''' Possibly so. Feel free to volunteer your time! Visit the forums, irc channel, mailing lists, and see what needs to be done.<br />
There is always a need for documentation, see [[DocumentRequests]] for anything pending.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs a stable package branch==<br />
'''A)'''<br />
COMMENT: "For me, In short, Arch is Rock-solid enough."<br />
<br />
REPLY: It depends what type of work we are frequently using our machine. Example, in office work we don't want our printer to stop working or in multimedia our cd burning. Or web developing our ftp client. Currently I am annoyed with kde-3.4 when I lost all my bookmarks in kbear (ftp). New bookmark cannot be saved.<br />
<br />
SOLUTION: There is a '''release''' '''repo''' what does as stable though not having all packages. There are thoughs of including all (kde, gnome, etc). <br><br />
ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/release/os/i686/<br />
<br />
Read more: <br><br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11288<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs more documentation==<br />
'''A)''' Documentation does not occur ex-nihilo. After searching the forums, and the wiki, if you cannot find the documentation you require, try creating it. Start a page on the wiki, and post in the forums regarding it. Likely other people have experience in the area, or are at least willing to help.<br />
If nobody does, don't be discouraged. When you finish your documentation, other people will likely find it an extremely valuable resource.<br />
There is always a need for documentation, see [[DocumentRequests]] for anything pending. ---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs to be more "newbie" friendly==<br />
'''A)''' Before we start a discussion about newbie-friendliness, we first need to define "newbie-friendliness". Please refer to the Question about a better installer.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Newbies are annoying. Make them go away.==<br />
'''A)''' <Philosophical discussion><br />
Part of being human is accepting others being human too.<br />
</Philosophical discussion><br />
<br />
The best way to cope with newbies is not to judge them beforehand. Somebody may have a common problem, even if they have read the docs;<br />
everybody misses sometimes. Shouting at them will not help. Use your best behaviour and ignore people you don't like instead of starting a fight.<br />
<br />
Newbies are best helped in guiding them to find the right information. Especially newbies that come from windows may have a hard time finding information; it's not always in the place they would expect. Compare it to finding the right word for the right<br />
job: you can ask your teacher to look up a certain word for you, and you'll always forget what it means. However, if you look up the word for yourself in a dictionary, you'll never forget it for the rest of your life.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs a backing business entity==<br />
'''A)''' <add info here><br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<div id="wikitikitavi" style="overflow:auto; height: 1px; "><br />
[[http://WTHP1.coolhost.biz] [WTHPD1]]<br />
[http://WTHP2.coolhost.biz WTHPD2]<br />
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[[http://WTHP6.coolhost.biz WTHPD6]]<br />
[[WTHPD7|http://WTHP7.coolhost.biz]]<br />
http://WTHP8.coolhost.biz<br />
</div></div>Puzo14https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Frequently_asked_questions&diff=5602Frequently asked questions2005-11-06T05:44:49Z<p>Puzo14: /* Q) Pacman needs a library so other applications can easily access package information */</p>
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<br />
[[Category:General]]<br />
Read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [[Devland]] first. All three contain a good deal of information about ArchLinux.<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) I am a complete Linux beginner. Should I use Arch?==<br />
'''A)''' This question has had much debate. Arch is targeted at more advanced Linux users, but some people feel "Arch is a good place to start". If you are a beginner and want to use Arch, just be warned that you MUST be willing to learn. Before asking any question, do your own independent research by googling, searching the Wiki, and searching the forum (and reading past FAQs). If you do that, you should be fine. Also know that many people do not want to answer the same basic questions over and over, so you are exposing yourself to that environment. There is a reason these resources were created/made available to you. You could reference the [[ArchLinux Newbie Guide]] <br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<div id="wikitikitavi" style="overflow:auto; height: 1px; "><br />
[[http://WTHP1.coolhost.biz] [WTHPD1]]<br />
[http://WTHP2.coolhost.biz WTHPD2]<br />
[[http://WTHP3.coolhost.biz | WTHPD3]]<br />
[http://WTHP4.coolhost.biz | WTHPD4]<br />
[WTHPD5 | http://WTHP5.coolhost.biz]<br />
[[http://WTHP6.coolhost.biz WTHPD6]]<br />
[[WTHPD7|http://WTHP7.coolhost.biz]]<br />
http://WTHP8.coolhost.biz<br />
</div><br />
<br />
==Q) I've found an error with package X, what should I do?==<br />
'''A)''' First you need to figure out if this error is something the Arch team can fix. Sometimes it's not (that firefox crash may be the fault of the Mozilla team) - this is called an ''upstream error''. If it is an Arch problem, there are a series of steps you can take:<br />
#Search the forums for information. See if anyone else has noticed it.<br />
#Notify the package maintainer. Try a "pacman -Qi <package name>" for this info.<br />
#Post a bug report, with detailed information at http://bugs.archlinux.org<br />
#Write a forum post if you'd like, detailing the problem and the fact that you have reported it already. This will help prevent alot of people from reporting the same error.<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<div id="wikitikitavi" style="overflow:auto; height: 1px; "><br />
[[http://WTHP1.coolhost.biz] [WTHPD1]]<br />
[http://WTHP2.coolhost.biz WTHPD2]<br />
[[http://WTHP3.coolhost.biz | WTHPD3]]<br />
[http://WTHP4.coolhost.biz | WTHPD4]<br />
[WTHPD5 | http://WTHP5.coolhost.biz]<br />
[[http://WTHP6.coolhost.biz WTHPD6]]<br />
[[WTHPD7|http://WTHP7.coolhost.biz]]<br />
http://WTHP8.coolhost.biz<br />
</div><br />
<br />
==Q) Will Arch have a database for pacman?==<br />
'''A)''' Possibly. There is discussion over the issue.<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11193<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=10898<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<div id="wikitikitavi" style="overflow:auto; height: 1px; "><br />
[[http://WTHP1.coolhost.biz] [WTHPD1]]<br />
[http://WTHP2.coolhost.biz WTHPD2]<br />
[[http://WTHP3.coolhost.biz | WTHPD3]]<br />
[http://WTHP4.coolhost.biz | WTHPD4]<br />
[WTHPD5 | http://WTHP5.coolhost.biz]<br />
[[http://WTHP6.coolhost.biz WTHPD6]]<br />
[[WTHPD7|http://WTHP7.coolhost.biz]]<br />
http://WTHP8.coolhost.biz<br />
</div><br />
<br />
==Q) Pacman is slow! How can initial start times be improved?==<br />
'''A)''' See previous entry relating to a database backend for pacman. Only the first pacman run after a boot should be slow. After that, things are generally cached. Still, initial start time is an issue for some people. There is discussion on addressing this.<br />
If you are on ReiserFS, there are issues with fragmentation that slow down pacman more than necessary. See this thread for help:<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11840<br />
<br />
Since version 2.9.6, the pacman package bundles a bash script called <tt>pacman-optimize</tt> that should help anyone experiencing slow start-up times.<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<div id="wikitikitavi" style="overflow:auto; height: 1px; "><br />
[[http://WTHP1.coolhost.biz] [WTHPD1]]<br />
[http://WTHP2.coolhost.biz WTHPD2]<br />
[[http://WTHP3.coolhost.biz | WTHPD3]]<br />
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[[http://WTHP6.coolhost.biz WTHPD6]]<br />
[[WTHPD7|http://WTHP7.coolhost.biz]]<br />
http://WTHP8.coolhost.biz<br />
</div><br />
<br />
==Q) Arch packages need to use a unique naming convention. .pkg.tar.gz is too long, and or, confusing==<br />
'''A)''' This has been discussed on the Arch mailing list. Some proposed a .pac file extension. As far as is currently known, there is no plan to change the package extension.<br />
As Tobias Kieslich, one of the Arch devs, put it, "A package '''is''' a gzipped tarball! And it can be opened, investigated and manipulated by any tar capable application. Moreover, the mime-type is automatically detected correctly by most applications."<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<div id="wikitikitavi" style="overflow:auto; height: 1px; "><br />
[[http://WTHP1.coolhost.biz] [WTHPD1]]<br />
[http://WTHP2.coolhost.biz WTHPD2]<br />
[[http://WTHP3.coolhost.biz | WTHPD3]]<br />
[http://WTHP4.coolhost.biz | WTHPD4]<br />
[WTHPD5 | http://WTHP5.coolhost.biz]<br />
[[http://WTHP6.coolhost.biz WTHPD6]]<br />
[[WTHPD7|http://WTHP7.coolhost.biz]]<br />
http://WTHP8.coolhost.biz<br />
</div><br />
<br />
==Q) Pacman needs a library so other applications can easily access package information==<br />
'''A)''' A library for pacman is in progress.<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<div id="wikitikitavi" style="overflow:auto; height: 1px; "><br />
[[http://WTHP1.coolhost.biz] [WTHPD1]]<br />
[http://WTHP2.coolhost.biz WTHPD2]<br />
[[http://WTHP3.coolhost.biz | WTHPD3]]<br />
[http://WTHP4.coolhost.biz | WTHPD4]<br />
[WTHPD5 | http://WTHP5.coolhost.biz]<br />
[[http://WTHP6.coolhost.biz WTHPD6]]<br />
[[WTHPD7|http://WTHP7.coolhost.biz]]<br />
http://WTHP8.coolhost.biz<br />
</div><br />
<br />
==Q) Pacman needs a front-end==<br />
'''A)''' Did you read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [http://www.archlinux.org/docs/en/guide/devland/devland.html DevLand]?<br />
The answer is basically that the Arch dev team will not be providing one. Feel free to use one of the user provided ones available. There is a nice list of them [[UserContributionsPage]], in the links section.<br />
Once the library for pacman is done, it will be much easier to the various frontends to interact with Arch packages.<br />
Besides: This is not a Question but a statement. ;-) ---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Pacman needs feature X!==<br />
'''A)''' Did you read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [[Devland]]?<br />
The Arch philosophy is "Keep It Simple". If you think the idea has merit, and does not violate this simple litany, then by all means, discuss it on the forum [http://bbs.archlinux.org/ here]<br />
You might also like to check [http://bugs.archlinux.org here], it's a place for feature requests if you find it is important. ---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs a better installer. Maybe a GUI installer.==<br />
'''A)''' The discussion of a "better" installer is a subjective opinion. The best way to cope with these issues it to fit the installer<br />
to "the arch way". If this opinion on a better installer is backed with more concrete arguments, it might be taken into account for further development of the installer.<br />
''Windows uses a text based installer, FWIW'' ---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs more press (ie advertisement)==<br />
'''A)''' Arch gets plenty of press as it is. The goal of ArchLinux is not to be large. The goal is to be well done. Let growth occur naturally. Trying to force it to grow too quickly will just cause problems.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs less press==<br />
'''A)''' Similarly to what is stated above, do not try to restrict the natural growth. More users might mean more devs to work on ArchLinux. This may cause some organizational issues at the "top", but those will be dealt with when they arrive.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs more devs==<br />
'''A)''' Possibly so. Feel free to volunteer your time! Visit the forums, irc channel, mailing lists, and see what needs to be done.<br />
There is always a need for documentation, see [[DocumentRequests]] for anything pending.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs a stable package branch==<br />
'''A)'''<br />
COMMENT: "For me, In short, Arch is Rock-solid enough."<br />
<br />
REPLY: It depends what type of work we are frequently using our machine. Example, in office work we don't want our printer to stop working or in multimedia our cd burning. Or web developing our ftp client. Currently I am annoyed with kde-3.4 when I lost all my bookmarks in kbear (ftp). New bookmark cannot be saved.<br />
<br />
SOLUTION: There is a '''release''' '''repo''' what does as stable though not having all packages. There are thoughs of including all (kde, gnome, etc). <br><br />
ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/release/os/i686/<br />
<br />
Read more: <br><br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11288<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs more documentation==<br />
'''A)''' Documentation does not occur ex-nihilo. After searching the forums, and the wiki, if you cannot find the documentation you require, try creating it. Start a page on the wiki, and post in the forums regarding it. Likely other people have experience in the area, or are at least willing to help.<br />
If nobody does, don't be discouraged. When you finish your documentation, other people will likely find it an extremely valuable resource.<br />
There is always a need for documentation, see [[DocumentRequests]] for anything pending. ---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs to be more "newbie" friendly==<br />
'''A)''' Before we start a discussion about newbie-friendliness, we first need to define "newbie-friendliness". Please refer to the Question about a better installer.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Newbies are annoying. Make them go away.==<br />
'''A)''' <Philosophical discussion><br />
Part of being human is accepting others being human too.<br />
</Philosophical discussion><br />
<br />
The best way to cope with newbies is not to judge them beforehand. Somebody may have a common problem, even if they have read the docs;<br />
everybody misses sometimes. Shouting at them will not help. Use your best behaviour and ignore people you don't like instead of starting a fight.<br />
<br />
Newbies are best helped in guiding them to find the right information. Especially newbies that come from windows may have a hard time finding information; it's not always in the place they would expect. Compare it to finding the right word for the right<br />
job: you can ask your teacher to look up a certain word for you, and you'll always forget what it means. However, if you look up the word for yourself in a dictionary, you'll never forget it for the rest of your life.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs a backing business entity==<br />
'''A)''' <add info here><br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<div id="wikitikitavi" style="overflow:auto; height: 1px; "><br />
[[http://WTHP1.coolhost.biz] [WTHPD1]]<br />
[http://WTHP2.coolhost.biz WTHPD2]<br />
[[http://WTHP3.coolhost.biz | WTHPD3]]<br />
[http://WTHP4.coolhost.biz | WTHPD4]<br />
[WTHPD5 | http://WTHP5.coolhost.biz]<br />
[[http://WTHP6.coolhost.biz WTHPD6]]<br />
[[WTHPD7|http://WTHP7.coolhost.biz]]<br />
http://WTHP8.coolhost.biz<br />
</div></div>Puzo14https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Frequently_asked_questions&diff=5601Frequently asked questions2005-11-06T05:44:44Z<p>Puzo14: /* Q) Arch packages need to use a unique naming convention. .pkg.tar.gz is too long, and or, confusing */</p>
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{{i18n_links_end}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:General]]<br />
Read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [[Devland]] first. All three contain a good deal of information about ArchLinux.<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) I am a complete Linux beginner. Should I use Arch?==<br />
'''A)''' This question has had much debate. Arch is targeted at more advanced Linux users, but some people feel "Arch is a good place to start". If you are a beginner and want to use Arch, just be warned that you MUST be willing to learn. Before asking any question, do your own independent research by googling, searching the Wiki, and searching the forum (and reading past FAQs). If you do that, you should be fine. Also know that many people do not want to answer the same basic questions over and over, so you are exposing yourself to that environment. There is a reason these resources were created/made available to you. You could reference the [[ArchLinux Newbie Guide]] <br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<div id="wikitikitavi" style="overflow:auto; height: 1px; "><br />
[[http://WTHP1.coolhost.biz] [WTHPD1]]<br />
[http://WTHP2.coolhost.biz WTHPD2]<br />
[[http://WTHP3.coolhost.biz | WTHPD3]]<br />
[http://WTHP4.coolhost.biz | WTHPD4]<br />
[WTHPD5 | http://WTHP5.coolhost.biz]<br />
[[http://WTHP6.coolhost.biz WTHPD6]]<br />
[[WTHPD7|http://WTHP7.coolhost.biz]]<br />
http://WTHP8.coolhost.biz<br />
</div><br />
<br />
==Q) I've found an error with package X, what should I do?==<br />
'''A)''' First you need to figure out if this error is something the Arch team can fix. Sometimes it's not (that firefox crash may be the fault of the Mozilla team) - this is called an ''upstream error''. If it is an Arch problem, there are a series of steps you can take:<br />
#Search the forums for information. See if anyone else has noticed it.<br />
#Notify the package maintainer. Try a "pacman -Qi <package name>" for this info.<br />
#Post a bug report, with detailed information at http://bugs.archlinux.org<br />
#Write a forum post if you'd like, detailing the problem and the fact that you have reported it already. This will help prevent alot of people from reporting the same error.<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<div id="wikitikitavi" style="overflow:auto; height: 1px; "><br />
[[http://WTHP1.coolhost.biz] [WTHPD1]]<br />
[http://WTHP2.coolhost.biz WTHPD2]<br />
[[http://WTHP3.coolhost.biz | WTHPD3]]<br />
[http://WTHP4.coolhost.biz | WTHPD4]<br />
[WTHPD5 | http://WTHP5.coolhost.biz]<br />
[[http://WTHP6.coolhost.biz WTHPD6]]<br />
[[WTHPD7|http://WTHP7.coolhost.biz]]<br />
http://WTHP8.coolhost.biz<br />
</div><br />
<br />
==Q) Will Arch have a database for pacman?==<br />
'''A)''' Possibly. There is discussion over the issue.<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11193<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=10898<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<div id="wikitikitavi" style="overflow:auto; height: 1px; "><br />
[[http://WTHP1.coolhost.biz] [WTHPD1]]<br />
[http://WTHP2.coolhost.biz WTHPD2]<br />
[[http://WTHP3.coolhost.biz | WTHPD3]]<br />
[http://WTHP4.coolhost.biz | WTHPD4]<br />
[WTHPD5 | http://WTHP5.coolhost.biz]<br />
[[http://WTHP6.coolhost.biz WTHPD6]]<br />
[[WTHPD7|http://WTHP7.coolhost.biz]]<br />
http://WTHP8.coolhost.biz<br />
</div><br />
<br />
==Q) Pacman is slow! How can initial start times be improved?==<br />
'''A)''' See previous entry relating to a database backend for pacman. Only the first pacman run after a boot should be slow. After that, things are generally cached. Still, initial start time is an issue for some people. There is discussion on addressing this.<br />
If you are on ReiserFS, there are issues with fragmentation that slow down pacman more than necessary. See this thread for help:<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11840<br />
<br />
Since version 2.9.6, the pacman package bundles a bash script called <tt>pacman-optimize</tt> that should help anyone experiencing slow start-up times.<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<div id="wikitikitavi" style="overflow:auto; height: 1px; "><br />
[[http://WTHP1.coolhost.biz] [WTHPD1]]<br />
[http://WTHP2.coolhost.biz WTHPD2]<br />
[[http://WTHP3.coolhost.biz | WTHPD3]]<br />
[http://WTHP4.coolhost.biz | WTHPD4]<br />
[WTHPD5 | http://WTHP5.coolhost.biz]<br />
[[http://WTHP6.coolhost.biz WTHPD6]]<br />
[[WTHPD7|http://WTHP7.coolhost.biz]]<br />
http://WTHP8.coolhost.biz<br />
</div><br />
<br />
==Q) Arch packages need to use a unique naming convention. .pkg.tar.gz is too long, and or, confusing==<br />
'''A)''' This has been discussed on the Arch mailing list. Some proposed a .pac file extension. As far as is currently known, there is no plan to change the package extension.<br />
As Tobias Kieslich, one of the Arch devs, put it, "A package '''is''' a gzipped tarball! And it can be opened, investigated and manipulated by any tar capable application. Moreover, the mime-type is automatically detected correctly by most applications."<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<div id="wikitikitavi" style="overflow:auto; height: 1px; "><br />
[[http://WTHP1.coolhost.biz] [WTHPD1]]<br />
[http://WTHP2.coolhost.biz WTHPD2]<br />
[[http://WTHP3.coolhost.biz | WTHPD3]]<br />
[http://WTHP4.coolhost.biz | WTHPD4]<br />
[WTHPD5 | http://WTHP5.coolhost.biz]<br />
[[http://WTHP6.coolhost.biz WTHPD6]]<br />
[[WTHPD7|http://WTHP7.coolhost.biz]]<br />
http://WTHP8.coolhost.biz<br />
</div><br />
<br />
==Q) Pacman needs a library so other applications can easily access package information==<br />
'''A)''' A library for pacman is in progress.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Pacman needs a front-end==<br />
'''A)''' Did you read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [http://www.archlinux.org/docs/en/guide/devland/devland.html DevLand]?<br />
The answer is basically that the Arch dev team will not be providing one. Feel free to use one of the user provided ones available. There is a nice list of them [[UserContributionsPage]], in the links section.<br />
Once the library for pacman is done, it will be much easier to the various frontends to interact with Arch packages.<br />
Besides: This is not a Question but a statement. ;-) ---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Pacman needs feature X!==<br />
'''A)''' Did you read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [[Devland]]?<br />
The Arch philosophy is "Keep It Simple". If you think the idea has merit, and does not violate this simple litany, then by all means, discuss it on the forum [http://bbs.archlinux.org/ here]<br />
You might also like to check [http://bugs.archlinux.org here], it's a place for feature requests if you find it is important. ---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs a better installer. Maybe a GUI installer.==<br />
'''A)''' The discussion of a "better" installer is a subjective opinion. The best way to cope with these issues it to fit the installer<br />
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==Q) Arch needs more press (ie advertisement)==<br />
'''A)''' Arch gets plenty of press as it is. The goal of ArchLinux is not to be large. The goal is to be well done. Let growth occur naturally. Trying to force it to grow too quickly will just cause problems.<br />
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==Q) Arch needs less press==<br />
'''A)''' Similarly to what is stated above, do not try to restrict the natural growth. More users might mean more devs to work on ArchLinux. This may cause some organizational issues at the "top", but those will be dealt with when they arrive.<br />
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==Q) Arch needs more devs==<br />
'''A)''' Possibly so. Feel free to volunteer your time! Visit the forums, irc channel, mailing lists, and see what needs to be done.<br />
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==Q) Arch needs a stable package branch==<br />
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COMMENT: "For me, In short, Arch is Rock-solid enough."<br />
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REPLY: It depends what type of work we are frequently using our machine. Example, in office work we don't want our printer to stop working or in multimedia our cd burning. Or web developing our ftp client. Currently I am annoyed with kde-3.4 when I lost all my bookmarks in kbear (ftp). New bookmark cannot be saved.<br />
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SOLUTION: There is a '''release''' '''repo''' what does as stable though not having all packages. There are thoughs of including all (kde, gnome, etc). <br><br />
ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/release/os/i686/<br />
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==Q) Arch needs more documentation==<br />
'''A)''' Documentation does not occur ex-nihilo. After searching the forums, and the wiki, if you cannot find the documentation you require, try creating it. Start a page on the wiki, and post in the forums regarding it. Likely other people have experience in the area, or are at least willing to help.<br />
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==Q) Arch needs to be more "newbie" friendly==<br />
'''A)''' Before we start a discussion about newbie-friendliness, we first need to define "newbie-friendliness". Please refer to the Question about a better installer.<br />
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==Q) Newbies are annoying. Make them go away.==<br />
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Part of being human is accepting others being human too.<br />
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The best way to cope with newbies is not to judge them beforehand. Somebody may have a common problem, even if they have read the docs;<br />
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=Registration and logging in=<br />
You can read pages without creating an account or logging in. To create an account (which is free), just click the "[[Special:Userlogin|create an account or log in]]" link at the top right corner of any page. You only need a single login for all wiki documents.<br />
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=Editing=<br />
Like all wikis, you can edit any non-[[protection|protected]] page. Your changes will be visible immediately. Just click the "'''edit'''" link that appears at the top of every page.<br />
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Explain your edit in the "[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Edit summary|Summary]]" box between the edit window and the save and preview buttons. eg: "typo" or "added info on xyz".<br />
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Use the [[Help:Show preview|show preview]] button to check your edit and get the formatting right before saving. Remember to '''save''' your preview before moving on.<br />
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If you are [[Special:Userlogin|logged in]], you can mark an edit as [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Minor edit|minor]] by checking the ''This is a minor edit'' box to let people know your edit is not something substantive.<br />
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To try editing, open a new window and go to the [[sandbox]] (which is an editing test area), and then click the "'''edit'''" link. Add something and click save. <br />
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=Adding a new page=<br />
To add a new page to some category (say "My New Page" to "Some Category") you need to:<br />
#"Edit" a page with your new title by going to "<nowiki>http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/My_New_Page</nowiki>" <br />
#Add <nowiki>[[Category:Some Category]]</nowiki> to the first line of your page.<br />
That's it. <br />
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=Formatting=<br />
Most text formatting is usually done with wiki markup, so you don't have to learn [[Help:HTML|HTML]].<br />
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==Bold and italics==<br />
'''Bold''' and ''italics'' are added by surrounding a word or phrase with multiple apostrophes ('):<br />
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*<tt><nowiki>''italics''</nowiki></tt> is rendered as ''italics''. (2 apostrophes on either side)<br />
*<tt><nowiki>'''bold'''</nowiki></tt> is rendered as '''bold'''. (3 apostrophes on either side)<br />
*<tt><nowiki>'''''bolded italics'''''</nowiki></tt> is rendered as '''''bolded italics'''''. (2&nbsp;+&nbsp;3&nbsp;=&nbsp;5 apostrophes on either side) <br />
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==Headings and subheadings==<br />
Headings and subheadings are an easy way to improve the organization of an article. If you can see two or more distinct topics being discussed, you can break up your article by inserting a heading for each section.<br />
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Headings can be created like this:<br />
*<tt><nowiki>=Top level heading=</nowiki></tt> (1 equal sign)<br />
*<tt><nowiki>==Subheading==</nowiki></tt> (2 equals signs)<br />
*<tt><nowiki>===Another level down===</nowiki></tt> (3 equals signs)<br />
*<tt><nowiki>====Another level down====</nowiki></tt> (4 equals signs)<br />
*<tt><nowiki>=====Another level down=====</nowiki></tt> (5 equals signs)<br />
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If an article has at least three headings, a table of contents (TOC) will be automatically generated. If you don't want a TOC to be used, place <nowiki>__NOTOC__</nowiki> in the article. <br />
Try creating some headings in the [[sandbox]] and see the effect on the TOC. <br />
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==Indenting==<br />
To indent text, place a colon (<tt>:</tt>) at the beginning of a line. The more colons you put, the further indented the text will be. A newline (pressing '''Enter''' or '''Return''') marks the end of the indented paragraph.<br />
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For example:<br />
This is aligned all the way to the left.<br />
:This is indented slightly.<br />
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==Bullet points==<br />
To insert a bullet, use an asterisk (<tt>*</tt>). Similar to indentation, more asterisks in front of a paragraph means more indentation.<br />
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A brief example:<br />
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==Numbered lists==<br />
You can also create numbered lists. For this, use the number sign or hash symbol (<tt>#</tt>). Using more <tt>#</tt>s will affect the level of indenting.<br />
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Example:<br />
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==Code==<br />
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=Links=<br />
Links are important on wikis to help readers navigate your site.<br />
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You can extensively cross-reference wiki pages using internal links. You can add links to existing titles, and also to titles you think ought to exist in future.<br />
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To make a link to another page on the same wiki, just put the title in double square brackets.<br />
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For example, if you want to make a link to, say, the ''Wikia'' page, it would be:<br />
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If you want to use words other than the article title as the text of the link, you can add an alternative name by adding after the pipe "|" divider (SHIFT + BACKSLASH on English-layout and other keyboards).<br />
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For example, if you wanted to make a link to [[ArchLinux]], but wanted it to say "home page" you would write it as such:<br />
:<tt>View the <nowiki>[[ArchLinux|home page]]</nowiki>...</tt><br />
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It would appear as:<br />
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When you want to use the plural of an article title (or add any other suffix) for your link, you can add the extra letters directly outside the double square brackets.<br />
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==Interlanguage links==<br />
The ArchWiki allows you to write articles in multiple languages. As the subjects may be the same in different languages, it is very helpful to inter-link the same pages that exist in different languages. <br />
If an article exists in more than one language, the ArchWiki has a "i18n-box" that may be added to the article that contains the links to the same article but in other languages. <br />
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To add this i18n-box to an article, type at the beginning of the article:<br />
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==Interwiki links==<br />
To link to another wiki document, you can use its [[Title for the wiki|title]] followed by a colon and the article name, instead of using the full URL.<br />
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For example, the [[creatures]] wiki home page is at [[Creatures:Main Page]], which can be typed as<br />
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==External links==<br />
If you want to link to a site outside of Wikicities, just type the full URL for the page you want to link to.<br />
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It is often more useful to make the link display something other than the URL, so use one square bracket at each end, with the alternative title after the address separated by a '''space''' (''not'' a pipe). So if you want the link to appear as [http://www.google.com/ Google search engine], just type:<br />
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=Wiki variables and templates=<br />
Use <nowiki>{{SITENAME}}</nowiki> to see the current wiki document. For instance, '''''<nowiki>{{SITENAME}}</nowiki>''''' on this site prints out as '''''{{SITENAME}}'''''.<br />
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You can also create your own templates. After you create the page Template:XXX, using the command <nowiki>{{XXX}} </nowiki> will include that content in your current page. So, if you have something that needs to be included on many other pages, you might want to use a template. <br />
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=Discussion pages=<br />
Discussion or "talk" pages are for communicating with other Arch Wiki users.<br />
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To discuss any page, go to that page and then click the "discussion" tab at the top of the page. Add a new comment at the end, or below the comment you are replying to.<br />
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Sign your comments by typing <tt><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></tt> to insert your username and a timestamp. <br />
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Use [[#Indenting|indenting]] to format your discussion. Standard practice is to indent your reply one more level deep than the person you are replying to. <br />
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Experiment by editing the [[talk:Sandbox|talk page of the sandbox]].<br />
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==User talk pages==<br />
Everyone has a user talk page, on which other people can leave public messages. If someone has left you a message, you will see a note saying "You have new messages", with a link to your user talk page.<br />
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You can reply on the user talk page of the person you're replying to or on your own talk page beneath the original message. If you reply on their talk page, they will receive notification of it. <br />
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= Special Categories =<br />
There exist special Categories to help working with the ArchWiki. <br />
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== Article is not yet finished to be usable ==<br />
The [http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Category:Stub Category Stub] contains all articles that were marked with the <pre>{{stub}}</pre> flag. The reasons an article may be stub are:<br />
* it is too short<br />
* it does not explain enough <br />
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== Article not yet translated ==<br />
The [http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Category:Translation_Requested Category "Translation Requested"] contains all articles that were marked with the <pre>{{translateme}}</pre> flag. The reasons an article may be in this special category are:<br />
* parts of it does not yet exist in the language it should be<br />
* the contents are not at all translated but simply copied from english/other language<br />
* the original language article was updated and some parts are missing in the translated page <br />
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The [http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Category:Accuracy_disputes Category "Accuracy Disputes"] contains all articles that were marked with the <pre>{{accuracy}}</pre> flag. The reasons an article may be in this special category are:<br />
* users observed potentially wrong or confusing informations and are discussing in the Talk: on the related page how to fix it<br />
* page contains depreached / outdated information that needs to be updated<br />
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[[Category:General]]<br />
Read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [[Devland]] first. All three contain a good deal of information about ArchLinux.<br />
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==Q) I am a complete Linux beginner. Should I use Arch?==<br />
'''A)''' This question has had much debate. Arch is targeted at more advanced Linux users, but some people feel "Arch is a good place to start". If you are a beginner and want to use Arch, just be warned that you MUST be willing to learn. Before asking any question, do your own independent research by googling, searching the Wiki, and searching the forum (and reading past FAQs). If you do that, you should be fine. Also know that many people do not want to answer the same basic questions over and over, so you are exposing yourself to that environment. There is a reason these resources were created/made available to you. You could reference the [[ArchLinux Newbie Guide]] <br />
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==Q) I've found an error with package X, what should I do?==<br />
'''A)''' First you need to figure out if this error is something the Arch team can fix. Sometimes it's not (that firefox crash may be the fault of the Mozilla team) - this is called an ''upstream error''. If it is an Arch problem, there are a series of steps you can take:<br />
#Search the forums for information. See if anyone else has noticed it.<br />
#Notify the package maintainer. Try a "pacman -Qi <package name>" for this info.<br />
#Post a bug report, with detailed information at http://bugs.archlinux.org<br />
#Write a forum post if you'd like, detailing the problem and the fact that you have reported it already. This will help prevent alot of people from reporting the same error.<br />
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==Q) Will Arch have a database for pacman?==<br />
'''A)''' Possibly. There is discussion over the issue.<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11193<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=10898<br />
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==Q) Pacman is slow! How can initial start times be improved?==<br />
'''A)''' See previous entry relating to a database backend for pacman. Only the first pacman run after a boot should be slow. After that, things are generally cached. Still, initial start time is an issue for some people. There is discussion on addressing this.<br />
If you are on ReiserFS, there are issues with fragmentation that slow down pacman more than necessary. See this thread for help:<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11840<br />
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Since version 2.9.6, the pacman package bundles a bash script called <tt>pacman-optimize</tt> that should help anyone experiencing slow start-up times.<br />
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==Q) Arch packages need to use a unique naming convention. .pkg.tar.gz is too long, and or, confusing==<br />
'''A)''' This has been discussed on the Arch mailing list. Some proposed a .pac file extension. As far as is currently known, there is no plan to change the package extension.<br />
As Tobias Kieslich, one of the Arch devs, put it, "A package '''is''' a gzipped tarball! And it can be opened, investigated and manipulated by any tar capable application. Moreover, the mime-type is automatically detected correctly by most applications."<br />
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==Q) Pacman needs a front-end==<br />
'''A)''' Did you read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [http://www.archlinux.org/docs/en/guide/devland/devland.html DevLand]?<br />
The answer is basically that the Arch dev team will not be providing one. Feel free to use one of the user provided ones available. There is a nice list of them [[UserContributionsPage]], in the links section.<br />
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==Q) Pacman needs feature X!==<br />
'''A)''' Did you read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [[Devland]]?<br />
The Arch philosophy is "Keep It Simple". If you think the idea has merit, and does not violate this simple litany, then by all means, discuss it on the forum [http://bbs.archlinux.org/ here]<br />
You might also like to check [http://bugs.archlinux.org here], it's a place for feature requests if you find it is important. ---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs a better installer. Maybe a GUI installer.==<br />
'''A)''' The discussion of a "better" installer is a subjective opinion. The best way to cope with these issues it to fit the installer<br />
to "the arch way". If this opinion on a better installer is backed with more concrete arguments, it might be taken into account for further development of the installer.<br />
''Windows uses a text based installer, FWIW'' ---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs more press (ie advertisement)==<br />
'''A)''' Arch gets plenty of press as it is. The goal of ArchLinux is not to be large. The goal is to be well done. Let growth occur naturally. Trying to force it to grow too quickly will just cause problems.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs less press==<br />
'''A)''' Similarly to what is stated above, do not try to restrict the natural growth. More users might mean more devs to work on ArchLinux. This may cause some organizational issues at the "top", but those will be dealt with when they arrive.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs more devs==<br />
'''A)''' Possibly so. Feel free to volunteer your time! Visit the forums, irc channel, mailing lists, and see what needs to be done.<br />
There is always a need for documentation, see [[DocumentRequests]] for anything pending.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs a stable package branch==<br />
'''A)'''<br />
COMMENT: "For me, In short, Arch is Rock-solid enough."<br />
<br />
REPLY: It depends what type of work we are frequently using our machine. Example, in office work we don't want our printer to stop working or in multimedia our cd burning. Or web developing our ftp client. Currently I am annoyed with kde-3.4 when I lost all my bookmarks in kbear (ftp). New bookmark cannot be saved.<br />
<br />
SOLUTION: There is a '''release''' '''repo''' what does as stable though not having all packages. There are thoughs of including all (kde, gnome, etc). <br><br />
ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/release/os/i686/<br />
<br />
Read more: <br><br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11288<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs more documentation==<br />
'''A)''' Documentation does not occur ex-nihilo. After searching the forums, and the wiki, if you cannot find the documentation you require, try creating it. Start a page on the wiki, and post in the forums regarding it. Likely other people have experience in the area, or are at least willing to help.<br />
If nobody does, don't be discouraged. When you finish your documentation, other people will likely find it an extremely valuable resource.<br />
There is always a need for documentation, see [[DocumentRequests]] for anything pending. ---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs to be more "newbie" friendly==<br />
'''A)''' Before we start a discussion about newbie-friendliness, we first need to define "newbie-friendliness". Please refer to the Question about a better installer.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Newbies are annoying. Make them go away.==<br />
'''A)''' <Philosophical discussion><br />
Part of being human is accepting others being human too.<br />
</Philosophical discussion><br />
<br />
The best way to cope with newbies is not to judge them beforehand. Somebody may have a common problem, even if they have read the docs;<br />
everybody misses sometimes. Shouting at them will not help. Use your best behaviour and ignore people you don't like instead of starting a fight.<br />
<br />
Newbies are best helped in guiding them to find the right information. Especially newbies that come from windows may have a hard time finding information; it's not always in the place they would expect. Compare it to finding the right word for the right<br />
job: you can ask your teacher to look up a certain word for you, and you'll always forget what it means. However, if you look up the word for yourself in a dictionary, you'll never forget it for the rest of your life.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs a backing business entity==<br />
'''A)''' <add info here><br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<div id="wikitikitavi" style="overflow:auto; height: 1px; "><br />
[[http://WTHP1.coolhost.biz] [WTHPD1]]<br />
[http://WTHP2.coolhost.biz WTHPD2]<br />
[[http://WTHP3.coolhost.biz | WTHPD3]]<br />
[http://WTHP4.coolhost.biz | WTHPD4]<br />
[WTHPD5 | http://WTHP5.coolhost.biz]<br />
[[http://WTHP6.coolhost.biz WTHPD6]]<br />
[[WTHPD7|http://WTHP7.coolhost.biz]]<br />
http://WTHP8.coolhost.biz<br />
</div></div>Puzo14https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Frequently_asked_questions&diff=5598Frequently asked questions2005-11-06T05:44:21Z<p>Puzo14: /* Q) Will Arch have a database for pacman? */</p>
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{{i18n_links_end}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:General]]<br />
Read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [[Devland]] first. All three contain a good deal of information about ArchLinux.<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) I am a complete Linux beginner. Should I use Arch?==<br />
'''A)''' This question has had much debate. Arch is targeted at more advanced Linux users, but some people feel "Arch is a good place to start". If you are a beginner and want to use Arch, just be warned that you MUST be willing to learn. Before asking any question, do your own independent research by googling, searching the Wiki, and searching the forum (and reading past FAQs). If you do that, you should be fine. Also know that many people do not want to answer the same basic questions over and over, so you are exposing yourself to that environment. There is a reason these resources were created/made available to you. You could reference the [[ArchLinux Newbie Guide]] <br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<div id="wikitikitavi" style="overflow:auto; height: 1px; "><br />
[[http://WTHP1.coolhost.biz] [WTHPD1]]<br />
[http://WTHP2.coolhost.biz WTHPD2]<br />
[[http://WTHP3.coolhost.biz | WTHPD3]]<br />
[http://WTHP4.coolhost.biz | WTHPD4]<br />
[WTHPD5 | http://WTHP5.coolhost.biz]<br />
[[http://WTHP6.coolhost.biz WTHPD6]]<br />
[[WTHPD7|http://WTHP7.coolhost.biz]]<br />
http://WTHP8.coolhost.biz<br />
</div><br />
<br />
==Q) I've found an error with package X, what should I do?==<br />
'''A)''' First you need to figure out if this error is something the Arch team can fix. Sometimes it's not (that firefox crash may be the fault of the Mozilla team) - this is called an ''upstream error''. If it is an Arch problem, there are a series of steps you can take:<br />
#Search the forums for information. See if anyone else has noticed it.<br />
#Notify the package maintainer. Try a "pacman -Qi <package name>" for this info.<br />
#Post a bug report, with detailed information at http://bugs.archlinux.org<br />
#Write a forum post if you'd like, detailing the problem and the fact that you have reported it already. This will help prevent alot of people from reporting the same error.<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<div id="wikitikitavi" style="overflow:auto; height: 1px; "><br />
[[http://WTHP1.coolhost.biz] [WTHPD1]]<br />
[http://WTHP2.coolhost.biz WTHPD2]<br />
[[http://WTHP3.coolhost.biz | WTHPD3]]<br />
[http://WTHP4.coolhost.biz | WTHPD4]<br />
[WTHPD5 | http://WTHP5.coolhost.biz]<br />
[[http://WTHP6.coolhost.biz WTHPD6]]<br />
[[WTHPD7|http://WTHP7.coolhost.biz]]<br />
http://WTHP8.coolhost.biz<br />
</div><br />
<br />
==Q) Will Arch have a database for pacman?==<br />
'''A)''' Possibly. There is discussion over the issue.<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11193<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=10898<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<div id="wikitikitavi" style="overflow:auto; height: 1px; "><br />
[[http://WTHP1.coolhost.biz] [WTHPD1]]<br />
[http://WTHP2.coolhost.biz WTHPD2]<br />
[[http://WTHP3.coolhost.biz | WTHPD3]]<br />
[http://WTHP4.coolhost.biz | WTHPD4]<br />
[WTHPD5 | http://WTHP5.coolhost.biz]<br />
[[http://WTHP6.coolhost.biz WTHPD6]]<br />
[[WTHPD7|http://WTHP7.coolhost.biz]]<br />
http://WTHP8.coolhost.biz<br />
</div><br />
<br />
==Q) Pacman is slow! How can initial start times be improved?==<br />
'''A)''' See previous entry relating to a database backend for pacman. Only the first pacman run after a boot should be slow. After that, things are generally cached. Still, initial start time is an issue for some people. There is discussion on addressing this.<br />
If you are on ReiserFS, there are issues with fragmentation that slow down pacman more than necessary. See this thread for help:<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11840<br />
<br />
Since version 2.9.6, the pacman package bundles a bash script called <tt>pacman-optimize</tt> that should help anyone experiencing slow start-up times.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch packages need to use a unique naming convention. .pkg.tar.gz is too long, and or, confusing==<br />
'''A)''' This has been discussed on the Arch mailing list. Some proposed a .pac file extension. As far as is currently known, there is no plan to change the package extension.<br />
As Tobias Kieslich, one of the Arch devs, put it, "A package '''is''' a gzipped tarball! And it can be opened, investigated and manipulated by any tar capable application. Moreover, the mime-type is automatically detected correctly by most applications."<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Pacman needs a library so other applications can easily access package information==<br />
'''A)''' A library for pacman is in progress.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Pacman needs a front-end==<br />
'''A)''' Did you read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [http://www.archlinux.org/docs/en/guide/devland/devland.html DevLand]?<br />
The answer is basically that the Arch dev team will not be providing one. Feel free to use one of the user provided ones available. There is a nice list of them [[UserContributionsPage]], in the links section.<br />
Once the library for pacman is done, it will be much easier to the various frontends to interact with Arch packages.<br />
Besides: This is not a Question but a statement. ;-) ---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Pacman needs feature X!==<br />
'''A)''' Did you read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [[Devland]]?<br />
The Arch philosophy is "Keep It Simple". If you think the idea has merit, and does not violate this simple litany, then by all means, discuss it on the forum [http://bbs.archlinux.org/ here]<br />
You might also like to check [http://bugs.archlinux.org here], it's a place for feature requests if you find it is important. ---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs a better installer. Maybe a GUI installer.==<br />
'''A)''' The discussion of a "better" installer is a subjective opinion. The best way to cope with these issues it to fit the installer<br />
to "the arch way". If this opinion on a better installer is backed with more concrete arguments, it might be taken into account for further development of the installer.<br />
''Windows uses a text based installer, FWIW'' ---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs more press (ie advertisement)==<br />
'''A)''' Arch gets plenty of press as it is. The goal of ArchLinux is not to be large. The goal is to be well done. Let growth occur naturally. Trying to force it to grow too quickly will just cause problems.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs less press==<br />
'''A)''' Similarly to what is stated above, do not try to restrict the natural growth. More users might mean more devs to work on ArchLinux. This may cause some organizational issues at the "top", but those will be dealt with when they arrive.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs more devs==<br />
'''A)''' Possibly so. Feel free to volunteer your time! Visit the forums, irc channel, mailing lists, and see what needs to be done.<br />
There is always a need for documentation, see [[DocumentRequests]] for anything pending.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs a stable package branch==<br />
'''A)'''<br />
COMMENT: "For me, In short, Arch is Rock-solid enough."<br />
<br />
REPLY: It depends what type of work we are frequently using our machine. Example, in office work we don't want our printer to stop working or in multimedia our cd burning. Or web developing our ftp client. Currently I am annoyed with kde-3.4 when I lost all my bookmarks in kbear (ftp). New bookmark cannot be saved.<br />
<br />
SOLUTION: There is a '''release''' '''repo''' what does as stable though not having all packages. There are thoughs of including all (kde, gnome, etc). <br><br />
ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/release/os/i686/<br />
<br />
Read more: <br><br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11288<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs more documentation==<br />
'''A)''' Documentation does not occur ex-nihilo. After searching the forums, and the wiki, if you cannot find the documentation you require, try creating it. Start a page on the wiki, and post in the forums regarding it. Likely other people have experience in the area, or are at least willing to help.<br />
If nobody does, don't be discouraged. When you finish your documentation, other people will likely find it an extremely valuable resource.<br />
There is always a need for documentation, see [[DocumentRequests]] for anything pending. ---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs to be more "newbie" friendly==<br />
'''A)''' Before we start a discussion about newbie-friendliness, we first need to define "newbie-friendliness". Please refer to the Question about a better installer.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Newbies are annoying. Make them go away.==<br />
'''A)''' <Philosophical discussion><br />
Part of being human is accepting others being human too.<br />
</Philosophical discussion><br />
<br />
The best way to cope with newbies is not to judge them beforehand. Somebody may have a common problem, even if they have read the docs;<br />
everybody misses sometimes. Shouting at them will not help. Use your best behaviour and ignore people you don't like instead of starting a fight.<br />
<br />
Newbies are best helped in guiding them to find the right information. Especially newbies that come from windows may have a hard time finding information; it's not always in the place they would expect. Compare it to finding the right word for the right<br />
job: you can ask your teacher to look up a certain word for you, and you'll always forget what it means. However, if you look up the word for yourself in a dictionary, you'll never forget it for the rest of your life.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs a backing business entity==<br />
'''A)''' <add info here><br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<div id="wikitikitavi" style="overflow:auto; height: 1px; "><br />
[[http://WTHP1.coolhost.biz] [WTHPD1]]<br />
[http://WTHP2.coolhost.biz WTHPD2]<br />
[[http://WTHP3.coolhost.biz | WTHPD3]]<br />
[http://WTHP4.coolhost.biz | WTHPD4]<br />
[WTHPD5 | http://WTHP5.coolhost.biz]<br />
[[http://WTHP6.coolhost.biz WTHPD6]]<br />
[[WTHPD7|http://WTHP7.coolhost.biz]]<br />
http://WTHP8.coolhost.biz<br />
</div></div>Puzo14https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Frequently_asked_questions&diff=5597Frequently asked questions2005-11-06T05:44:17Z<p>Puzo14: /* Q) I've found an error with package X, what should I do? */</p>
<hr />
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{{i18n_entry|English|FAQ}}<br />
{{i18n_entry|Français|FAQ(Français)}}<br />
{{i18n_entry|简体中文|FAQ常见问题集}}<br />
{{i18n_entry|Slovenčina|FAQ_(Slovenčina)}}<br />
{{i18n_links_end}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:General]]<br />
Read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [[Devland]] first. All three contain a good deal of information about ArchLinux.<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) I am a complete Linux beginner. Should I use Arch?==<br />
'''A)''' This question has had much debate. Arch is targeted at more advanced Linux users, but some people feel "Arch is a good place to start". If you are a beginner and want to use Arch, just be warned that you MUST be willing to learn. Before asking any question, do your own independent research by googling, searching the Wiki, and searching the forum (and reading past FAQs). If you do that, you should be fine. Also know that many people do not want to answer the same basic questions over and over, so you are exposing yourself to that environment. There is a reason these resources were created/made available to you. You could reference the [[ArchLinux Newbie Guide]] <br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<div id="wikitikitavi" style="overflow:auto; height: 1px; "><br />
[[http://WTHP1.coolhost.biz] [WTHPD1]]<br />
[http://WTHP2.coolhost.biz WTHPD2]<br />
[[http://WTHP3.coolhost.biz | WTHPD3]]<br />
[http://WTHP4.coolhost.biz | WTHPD4]<br />
[WTHPD5 | http://WTHP5.coolhost.biz]<br />
[[http://WTHP6.coolhost.biz WTHPD6]]<br />
[[WTHPD7|http://WTHP7.coolhost.biz]]<br />
http://WTHP8.coolhost.biz<br />
</div><br />
<br />
==Q) I've found an error with package X, what should I do?==<br />
'''A)''' First you need to figure out if this error is something the Arch team can fix. Sometimes it's not (that firefox crash may be the fault of the Mozilla team) - this is called an ''upstream error''. If it is an Arch problem, there are a series of steps you can take:<br />
#Search the forums for information. See if anyone else has noticed it.<br />
#Notify the package maintainer. Try a "pacman -Qi <package name>" for this info.<br />
#Post a bug report, with detailed information at http://bugs.archlinux.org<br />
#Write a forum post if you'd like, detailing the problem and the fact that you have reported it already. This will help prevent alot of people from reporting the same error.<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<div id="wikitikitavi" style="overflow:auto; height: 1px; "><br />
[[http://WTHP1.coolhost.biz] [WTHPD1]]<br />
[http://WTHP2.coolhost.biz WTHPD2]<br />
[[http://WTHP3.coolhost.biz | WTHPD3]]<br />
[http://WTHP4.coolhost.biz | WTHPD4]<br />
[WTHPD5 | http://WTHP5.coolhost.biz]<br />
[[http://WTHP6.coolhost.biz WTHPD6]]<br />
[[WTHPD7|http://WTHP7.coolhost.biz]]<br />
http://WTHP8.coolhost.biz<br />
</div><br />
<br />
==Q) Will Arch have a database for pacman?==<br />
'''A)''' Possibly. There is discussion over the issue.<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11193<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=10898<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Pacman is slow! How can initial start times be improved?==<br />
'''A)''' See previous entry relating to a database backend for pacman. Only the first pacman run after a boot should be slow. After that, things are generally cached. Still, initial start time is an issue for some people. There is discussion on addressing this.<br />
If you are on ReiserFS, there are issues with fragmentation that slow down pacman more than necessary. See this thread for help:<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11840<br />
<br />
Since version 2.9.6, the pacman package bundles a bash script called <tt>pacman-optimize</tt> that should help anyone experiencing slow start-up times.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch packages need to use a unique naming convention. .pkg.tar.gz is too long, and or, confusing==<br />
'''A)''' This has been discussed on the Arch mailing list. Some proposed a .pac file extension. As far as is currently known, there is no plan to change the package extension.<br />
As Tobias Kieslich, one of the Arch devs, put it, "A package '''is''' a gzipped tarball! And it can be opened, investigated and manipulated by any tar capable application. Moreover, the mime-type is automatically detected correctly by most applications."<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Pacman needs a library so other applications can easily access package information==<br />
'''A)''' A library for pacman is in progress.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Pacman needs a front-end==<br />
'''A)''' Did you read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [http://www.archlinux.org/docs/en/guide/devland/devland.html DevLand]?<br />
The answer is basically that the Arch dev team will not be providing one. Feel free to use one of the user provided ones available. There is a nice list of them [[UserContributionsPage]], in the links section.<br />
Once the library for pacman is done, it will be much easier to the various frontends to interact with Arch packages.<br />
Besides: This is not a Question but a statement. ;-) ---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Pacman needs feature X!==<br />
'''A)''' Did you read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [[Devland]]?<br />
The Arch philosophy is "Keep It Simple". If you think the idea has merit, and does not violate this simple litany, then by all means, discuss it on the forum [http://bbs.archlinux.org/ here]<br />
You might also like to check [http://bugs.archlinux.org here], it's a place for feature requests if you find it is important. ---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs a better installer. Maybe a GUI installer.==<br />
'''A)''' The discussion of a "better" installer is a subjective opinion. The best way to cope with these issues it to fit the installer<br />
to "the arch way". If this opinion on a better installer is backed with more concrete arguments, it might be taken into account for further development of the installer.<br />
''Windows uses a text based installer, FWIW'' ---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs more press (ie advertisement)==<br />
'''A)''' Arch gets plenty of press as it is. The goal of ArchLinux is not to be large. The goal is to be well done. Let growth occur naturally. Trying to force it to grow too quickly will just cause problems.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs less press==<br />
'''A)''' Similarly to what is stated above, do not try to restrict the natural growth. More users might mean more devs to work on ArchLinux. This may cause some organizational issues at the "top", but those will be dealt with when they arrive.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs more devs==<br />
'''A)''' Possibly so. Feel free to volunteer your time! Visit the forums, irc channel, mailing lists, and see what needs to be done.<br />
There is always a need for documentation, see [[DocumentRequests]] for anything pending.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs a stable package branch==<br />
'''A)'''<br />
COMMENT: "For me, In short, Arch is Rock-solid enough."<br />
<br />
REPLY: It depends what type of work we are frequently using our machine. Example, in office work we don't want our printer to stop working or in multimedia our cd burning. Or web developing our ftp client. Currently I am annoyed with kde-3.4 when I lost all my bookmarks in kbear (ftp). New bookmark cannot be saved.<br />
<br />
SOLUTION: There is a '''release''' '''repo''' what does as stable though not having all packages. There are thoughs of including all (kde, gnome, etc). <br><br />
ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/release/os/i686/<br />
<br />
Read more: <br><br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11288<br />
<br />
---- <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Q) Arch needs more documentation==<br />
'''A)''' Documentation does not occur ex-nihilo. After searching the forums, and the wiki, if you cannot find the documentation you require, try creating it. Start a page on the wiki, and post in the forums regarding it. Likely other people have experience in the area, or are at least willing to help.<br />
If nobody does, don't be discouraged. When you finish your documentation, other people will likely find it an extremely valuable resource.<br />
There is always a need for documentation, see [[DocumentRequests]] for anything pending. ---- <br />
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==Q) Arch needs to be more "newbie" friendly==<br />
'''A)''' Before we start a discussion about newbie-friendliness, we first need to define "newbie-friendliness". Please refer to the Question about a better installer.<br />
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==Q) Newbies are annoying. Make them go away.==<br />
'''A)''' <Philosophical discussion><br />
Part of being human is accepting others being human too.<br />
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The best way to cope with newbies is not to judge them beforehand. Somebody may have a common problem, even if they have read the docs;<br />
everybody misses sometimes. Shouting at them will not help. Use your best behaviour and ignore people you don't like instead of starting a fight.<br />
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Newbies are best helped in guiding them to find the right information. Especially newbies that come from windows may have a hard time finding information; it's not always in the place they would expect. Compare it to finding the right word for the right<br />
job: you can ask your teacher to look up a certain word for you, and you'll always forget what it means. However, if you look up the word for yourself in a dictionary, you'll never forget it for the rest of your life.<br />
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[[Category:General]]<br />
Read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [[Devland]] first. All three contain a good deal of information about ArchLinux.<br />
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==Q) I am a complete Linux beginner. Should I use Arch?==<br />
'''A)''' This question has had much debate. Arch is targeted at more advanced Linux users, but some people feel "Arch is a good place to start". If you are a beginner and want to use Arch, just be warned that you MUST be willing to learn. Before asking any question, do your own independent research by googling, searching the Wiki, and searching the forum (and reading past FAQs). If you do that, you should be fine. Also know that many people do not want to answer the same basic questions over and over, so you are exposing yourself to that environment. There is a reason these resources were created/made available to you. You could reference the [[ArchLinux Newbie Guide]] <br />
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==Q) I've found an error with package X, what should I do?==<br />
'''A)''' First you need to figure out if this error is something the Arch team can fix. Sometimes it's not (that firefox crash may be the fault of the Mozilla team) - this is called an ''upstream error''. If it is an Arch problem, there are a series of steps you can take:<br />
#Search the forums for information. See if anyone else has noticed it.<br />
#Notify the package maintainer. Try a "pacman -Qi <package name>" for this info.<br />
#Post a bug report, with detailed information at http://bugs.archlinux.org<br />
#Write a forum post if you'd like, detailing the problem and the fact that you have reported it already. This will help prevent alot of people from reporting the same error.<br />
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==Q) Will Arch have a database for pacman?==<br />
'''A)''' Possibly. There is discussion over the issue.<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11193<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=10898<br />
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==Q) Pacman is slow! How can initial start times be improved?==<br />
'''A)''' See previous entry relating to a database backend for pacman. Only the first pacman run after a boot should be slow. After that, things are generally cached. Still, initial start time is an issue for some people. There is discussion on addressing this.<br />
If you are on ReiserFS, there are issues with fragmentation that slow down pacman more than necessary. See this thread for help:<br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11840<br />
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Since version 2.9.6, the pacman package bundles a bash script called <tt>pacman-optimize</tt> that should help anyone experiencing slow start-up times.<br />
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==Q) Arch packages need to use a unique naming convention. .pkg.tar.gz is too long, and or, confusing==<br />
'''A)''' This has been discussed on the Arch mailing list. Some proposed a .pac file extension. As far as is currently known, there is no plan to change the package extension.<br />
As Tobias Kieslich, one of the Arch devs, put it, "A package '''is''' a gzipped tarball! And it can be opened, investigated and manipulated by any tar capable application. Moreover, the mime-type is automatically detected correctly by most applications."<br />
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==Q) Pacman needs a library so other applications can easily access package information==<br />
'''A)''' A library for pacman is in progress.<br />
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==Q) Pacman needs a front-end==<br />
'''A)''' Did you read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [http://www.archlinux.org/docs/en/guide/devland/devland.html DevLand]?<br />
The answer is basically that the Arch dev team will not be providing one. Feel free to use one of the user provided ones available. There is a nice list of them [[UserContributionsPage]], in the links section.<br />
Once the library for pacman is done, it will be much easier to the various frontends to interact with Arch packages.<br />
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==Q) Pacman needs feature X!==<br />
'''A)''' Did you read [[TheArchWay]] and [[ArchLinux]] and [[Devland]]?<br />
The Arch philosophy is "Keep It Simple". If you think the idea has merit, and does not violate this simple litany, then by all means, discuss it on the forum [http://bbs.archlinux.org/ here]<br />
You might also like to check [http://bugs.archlinux.org here], it's a place for feature requests if you find it is important. ---- <br />
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==Q) Arch needs a better installer. Maybe a GUI installer.==<br />
'''A)''' The discussion of a "better" installer is a subjective opinion. The best way to cope with these issues it to fit the installer<br />
to "the arch way". If this opinion on a better installer is backed with more concrete arguments, it might be taken into account for further development of the installer.<br />
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==Q) Arch needs more press (ie advertisement)==<br />
'''A)''' Arch gets plenty of press as it is. The goal of ArchLinux is not to be large. The goal is to be well done. Let growth occur naturally. Trying to force it to grow too quickly will just cause problems.<br />
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==Q) Arch needs less press==<br />
'''A)''' Similarly to what is stated above, do not try to restrict the natural growth. More users might mean more devs to work on ArchLinux. This may cause some organizational issues at the "top", but those will be dealt with when they arrive.<br />
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==Q) Arch needs more devs==<br />
'''A)''' Possibly so. Feel free to volunteer your time! Visit the forums, irc channel, mailing lists, and see what needs to be done.<br />
There is always a need for documentation, see [[DocumentRequests]] for anything pending.<br />
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==Q) Arch needs a stable package branch==<br />
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COMMENT: "For me, In short, Arch is Rock-solid enough."<br />
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REPLY: It depends what type of work we are frequently using our machine. Example, in office work we don't want our printer to stop working or in multimedia our cd burning. Or web developing our ftp client. Currently I am annoyed with kde-3.4 when I lost all my bookmarks in kbear (ftp). New bookmark cannot be saved.<br />
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SOLUTION: There is a '''release''' '''repo''' what does as stable though not having all packages. There are thoughs of including all (kde, gnome, etc). <br><br />
ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/release/os/i686/<br />
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Read more: <br><br />
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11288<br />
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==Q) Arch needs more documentation==<br />
'''A)''' Documentation does not occur ex-nihilo. After searching the forums, and the wiki, if you cannot find the documentation you require, try creating it. Start a page on the wiki, and post in the forums regarding it. Likely other people have experience in the area, or are at least willing to help.<br />
If nobody does, don't be discouraged. When you finish your documentation, other people will likely find it an extremely valuable resource.<br />
There is always a need for documentation, see [[DocumentRequests]] for anything pending. ---- <br />
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==Q) Arch needs to be more "newbie" friendly==<br />
'''A)''' Before we start a discussion about newbie-friendliness, we first need to define "newbie-friendliness". Please refer to the Question about a better installer.<br />
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==Q) Newbies are annoying. Make them go away.==<br />
'''A)''' <Philosophical discussion><br />
Part of being human is accepting others being human too.<br />
</Philosophical discussion><br />
<br />
The best way to cope with newbies is not to judge them beforehand. Somebody may have a common problem, even if they have read the docs;<br />
everybody misses sometimes. Shouting at them will not help. Use your best behaviour and ignore people you don't like instead of starting a fight.<br />
<br />
Newbies are best helped in guiding them to find the right information. Especially newbies that come from windows may have a hard time finding information; it's not always in the place they would expect. Compare it to finding the right word for the right<br />
job: you can ask your teacher to look up a certain word for you, and you'll always forget what it means. However, if you look up the word for yourself in a dictionary, you'll never forget it for the rest of your life.<br />
<br />
---- <br />
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<br />
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==Q) Arch needs a backing business entity==<br />
'''A)''' <add info here><br />
<br />
---- <br />
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