https://wiki.archlinux.org/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=Tuxnix&feedformat=atomArchWiki - User contributions [en]2024-03-28T10:19:55ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.41.0https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Talk:Installation_guide&diff=509755Talk:Installation guide2018-02-04T21:52:00Z<p>Tuxnix: /* Link to the German version */</p>
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<div>== Read this first before adding new suggestions ==<br />
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* systemd tools such as ''hostnamectl'', ''timedatectl'' and ''localectl'' [https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/798#issuecomment-126568596 do not work] in the installation chroot environment, so please do not propose to use them in the guide unless you can prove that they have been made to work also in that case. See [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Talk:Beginners%27_guide&oldid=388727#General_problems], [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Talk:Beginners%27_guide&oldid=404695#Replace_commands_with_their_systemd_equivalents], [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Talk:Beginners%27_guide&oldid=418662#Utilizing_systemd_tools] and [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Talk:Installation_guide&oldid=434985#change_configuration_system_from_old_way_to_new_way.28using_systemd_commands.29] for some past discussions about this issue.<br />
* {{ic|localectl list-keymaps}} does not work due to bug {{Bug|46725}}. For the chosen replacement command, see [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Talk:Beginners%27_guide&oldid=435044#localectl].<br />
* {{ic|localhost}} must be set explicitely in {{ic|/etc/hosts}}, as it is otherwise resolved over the network. See {{Bug|56684}}.<br />
-- [[ArchWiki:Administrators|The ArchWiki Administrators]] 22:17, 2 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== pacman-key --populate ==<br />
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:''[Moved from [[Talk:Beginners' guide]]. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 20:38, 12 July 2016 (UTC)]''<br />
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Reference: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Beginners%27_guide&diff=next&oldid=411670<br />
I tried to install Archlinux on my new computer and got stuck. Only using the {{ic|pacman-key --populate archlinux}} helped me. I think I am not the only one having this problem. But why did you undo it? {{Unsigned|20:38, 12 December 2015|Sandstorm}}<br />
:This command is already run for the new system (by installation of archlinux-keyring), so running it by hand shouldn't be required for most users. Of course, things can go wrong (how old was the ISO you used to install the system?), but that belongs in Troubleshooting sections of the respective articles, which are linked at the beginning of the guide. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 19:52, 12 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
::I had downloaded the ISO just yesterday, minutes before the install. Only that command installed the keys. Probably I should open a bug if you can confirm the issue?<br />
:::Did you have to run pacman-key after, or before pacstrap? And do you recall what the error messages said exactly? (See also {{Bug|31286}}) -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 20:15, 12 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::I had to run after pacstrap. As far as I remember, pacstrap stopped after trying to download the keys. The error message was something like shown in this forum post: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=165367<br />
:::::Well then, as you suggested, I'd open a bug report. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 20:34, 12 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::::Done. Could you check if the description is good. I could not find an appropriate category, so I though Packages:Core might be the closest one. https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/47351 --[[User:Sandstorm|Sandstorm]] ([[User talk:Sandstorm|talk]]) 20:48, 12 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Thanks, the description looks OK. If the category e.a is not right, [[Special:Contributions/Scimmia|User:Scimmia]] should fix it. :P -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 13:59, 13 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::Hmm, looks like it was closed with "Works for me" ... not very enlightening. All I can suggest is to further improve on [[Pacman/Package signing]] and related articles, and recheck if they're accessible enough from the Beginners' guide. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 21:59, 12 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Switch to systemd-networkd ==<br />
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Next ISOs may use systemd-networkd instead of dhcpcd, see [https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-releng/2016-July/003739.html] -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 10:26, 19 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== <s>Wireless Configuration</s> ==<br />
<br />
The advice for wireless network setup to refer to the wireless networking page in the Wiki could present a new user with a significant hurdle to overcome. The ARCH ISO contains wifi-menu, which should be sufficient for most purposes to establish a wireless network conneciton. I propose that informaton be added to the networking section at the start of the page stating:<br />
<br />
For wireless connections, iw(8), wpa_supplicant(8) and netctl are available. See Wireless network configuration. The ARCH ISO makes wifi-menu available. The wifi-menu programme should be sufficiently powerful for most users to establish a connection to a known WiFi network. {{Unsigned|11:49, 18 October 2016|Deggy}}<br />
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:My eventual plan is to propose a man page for wifi_menu, then we can just link to that one instead of netctl. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 10:32, 18 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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::That would be great, I'd try to help; welcome to drop me a note about it. In the meantime I'd be +1 to Deggy's suggestion. Simplest way for new Archers, most of them will be used to a distro automatically enabling a network tool. Likewise, a simple sentence above it ala "see [[dhcpcd#Running]] for a quick start and [[Network configuration]] for free choice." would make it simpler for those wired users. --[[User:Indigo|Indigo]] ([[User talk:Indigo|talk]]) 10:33, 18 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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:::Thanks. Though I disagree on another link to [[dhcpcd]] in [[Installation_guide#Network_configuration]]; attentive users will have noticed that it is the method used in the installation environment, and [[Installation_guide#Configure_the_system]] specifically avoids recommending particular software choices for the new system (due to endless bickering in our user base on what's "best" or "recommended").<br />
:::Regarding wifi-menu, its usage is poorly covered even in the [[netctl]] article ([[Netctl#Wireless_.28WPA-PSK.29]] doesn't even mention how to select an interface) so that, or said man page, should be fixed first in my view. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 22:38, 18 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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::::[https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Netctl&type=revision&diff=471232&oldid=471030] Well, in this case "The [[dhcpcd]] daemon is [https://git.archlinux.org/archiso.git/tree/configs/releng/airootfs/etc/udev/rules.d/81-dhcpcd.rules enabled] on boot for '''wired''' devices,.." should be changed to "On the installation image the [[dhcpcd]] daemon is [[enable]]d on boot for '''wired''' devices,...", because the crosslink helps a new user more than the udev rule and it currently suggests a non-existent default. Likewise, [[Installation guide#Network configuration]] should clarify it again with "The newly installed environment has no network connection activated per default. See [[Network configuration]] to configure one." --[[User:Indigo|Indigo]] ([[User talk:Indigo|talk]]) 00:00, 19 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Sounds reasonable and would also strike off one point in [[#Notes]]. :) I think the link to the udev rule is still useful though, perhaps suitable for the ''wired'' word. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 02:13, 19 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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::::::[https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Installation_guide&type=revision&diff=471297&oldid=469435] @Deggy: Your suggestion not fully picked up yet, but for now ''wifi-menu'' is directly mentioned behind the [[Netctl#Wireless_.28WPA-PSK.29|netctl]] link. --[[User:Indigo|Indigo]] ([[User talk:Indigo|talk]]) 18:01, 19 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::Different suggestion: remove the links to [[netctl]] & co. alltogether, as this is already described in [[Wireless configuration]]. The table in [[Wireless_network_configuration#Automatic_setup]] could be expanded or generalized to mention {{Pkg|wireless-tools}} is unavailable on archiso.<br />
:::::::In other words:<br />
::::::::If no connection is available, [[stop]] the ''dhcpcd'' service with {{ic|systemctl stop dhcpcd@}}, {{ic|Tab}} and see [[Network configuration]] for '''wired''' devices or [[Wireless network configuration]] for '''wireless''' devices.<br />
:::::::-- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 12:46, 17 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::Implemented. Closing. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 13:37, 25 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== <s>Suggest using genfstab -t PARTUUID for GPT partition tables.</s> ==<br />
<br />
The guide currently suggests using -U or -L for UUIDs or labels respectively. I think there should be some mention of using PARTUUIDs for GPT partition tables.<br />
<br />
[[User:BrandonSchumann|BrandonSchumann]] ([[User talk:BrandonSchumann|talk]]) 20:28, 30 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
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:PARTUUID's aren't always generated. At least in my case with using btrfs subvolumes it doesn't output them when using "-t PARTUUID". -- [[User:Rdeckard|Rdeckard]] ([[User_talk:Rdeckard|talk]]) 11:30, 16 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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::Closing for lack of further comments. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 13:38, 25 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Include hint at top of page for install.txt ==<br />
<br />
Inform users that a copy of the installation guide can be found in ~/install.txt on the live CD.<br />
<br />
This would be incredibly helpful for users who potentially don't have access to two computers at the same time. {{unsigned|23:33, 13 November 2017|Cheeseypi}}<br />
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:install.txt is not a real copy in the sense that all wiki links are missing, and those without two computers can simply switch ttys to elinks as is described in [[Installation_guide#Pre-installation]] (throughout the guide, a working internet connection is assumed). -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 07:57, 14 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== <s>Document changes for filesystem package / Update sections where necessary</s> ==<br />
<br />
The filesystem package underwent some changes and the installation guide is not up to date anymore. Especially the part about the hosts file is not correct anymore. Additionally, group ids are not static anymore.<br />
<br />
For details please have a look here:<br />
<br />
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1754949#p1754949<br />
<br />
{{unsigned|07:20, 14 December 2017|Jrk}}<br />
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:[https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/diff/trunk/hosts?h=packages/filesystem&id=20928f58767d34ed6711befd6255f6a0b1706ae8 Here] is the change in question. -- [[User:Rdeckard|Rdeckard]] ([[User_talk:Rdeckard|talk]]) 01:51, 23 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::Manually changing {{ic|/etc/hosts}} is now more required than before since otherwise localhost is resolved over the network. See {{Bug|56684}}. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 13:06, 25 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Link to the German version==<br />
Instead of [[de:Arch Install Scripts]] you could choose [[de:Anleitung für Einsteiger]] it means "Beginner's Guid" and is a very <br />
detailed artikel for very new arch users and the future experts.</div>Tuxnixhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Talk:Installation_guide&diff=509754Talk:Installation guide2018-02-04T21:48:39Z<p>Tuxnix: /* Link to the German version */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Read this first before adding new suggestions ==<br />
<br />
* systemd tools such as ''hostnamectl'', ''timedatectl'' and ''localectl'' [https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/798#issuecomment-126568596 do not work] in the installation chroot environment, so please do not propose to use them in the guide unless you can prove that they have been made to work also in that case. See [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Talk:Beginners%27_guide&oldid=388727#General_problems], [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Talk:Beginners%27_guide&oldid=404695#Replace_commands_with_their_systemd_equivalents], [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Talk:Beginners%27_guide&oldid=418662#Utilizing_systemd_tools] and [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Talk:Installation_guide&oldid=434985#change_configuration_system_from_old_way_to_new_way.28using_systemd_commands.29] for some past discussions about this issue.<br />
* {{ic|localectl list-keymaps}} does not work due to bug {{Bug|46725}}. For the chosen replacement command, see [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Talk:Beginners%27_guide&oldid=435044#localectl].<br />
* {{ic|localhost}} must be set explicitely in {{ic|/etc/hosts}}, as it is otherwise resolved over the network. See {{Bug|56684}}.<br />
-- [[ArchWiki:Administrators|The ArchWiki Administrators]] 22:17, 2 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== pacman-key --populate ==<br />
<br />
:''[Moved from [[Talk:Beginners' guide]]. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 20:38, 12 July 2016 (UTC)]''<br />
<br />
Reference: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Beginners%27_guide&diff=next&oldid=411670<br />
I tried to install Archlinux on my new computer and got stuck. Only using the {{ic|pacman-key --populate archlinux}} helped me. I think I am not the only one having this problem. But why did you undo it? {{Unsigned|20:38, 12 December 2015|Sandstorm}}<br />
:This command is already run for the new system (by installation of archlinux-keyring), so running it by hand shouldn't be required for most users. Of course, things can go wrong (how old was the ISO you used to install the system?), but that belongs in Troubleshooting sections of the respective articles, which are linked at the beginning of the guide. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 19:52, 12 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
::I had downloaded the ISO just yesterday, minutes before the install. Only that command installed the keys. Probably I should open a bug if you can confirm the issue?<br />
:::Did you have to run pacman-key after, or before pacstrap? And do you recall what the error messages said exactly? (See also {{Bug|31286}}) -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 20:15, 12 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::I had to run after pacstrap. As far as I remember, pacstrap stopped after trying to download the keys. The error message was something like shown in this forum post: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=165367<br />
:::::Well then, as you suggested, I'd open a bug report. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 20:34, 12 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::::Done. Could you check if the description is good. I could not find an appropriate category, so I though Packages:Core might be the closest one. https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/47351 --[[User:Sandstorm|Sandstorm]] ([[User talk:Sandstorm|talk]]) 20:48, 12 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Thanks, the description looks OK. If the category e.a is not right, [[Special:Contributions/Scimmia|User:Scimmia]] should fix it. :P -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 13:59, 13 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
<br />
::::::::Hmm, looks like it was closed with "Works for me" ... not very enlightening. All I can suggest is to further improve on [[Pacman/Package signing]] and related articles, and recheck if they're accessible enough from the Beginners' guide. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 21:59, 12 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Switch to systemd-networkd ==<br />
<br />
Next ISOs may use systemd-networkd instead of dhcpcd, see [https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-releng/2016-July/003739.html] -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 10:26, 19 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== <s>Wireless Configuration</s> ==<br />
<br />
The advice for wireless network setup to refer to the wireless networking page in the Wiki could present a new user with a significant hurdle to overcome. The ARCH ISO contains wifi-menu, which should be sufficient for most purposes to establish a wireless network conneciton. I propose that informaton be added to the networking section at the start of the page stating:<br />
<br />
For wireless connections, iw(8), wpa_supplicant(8) and netctl are available. See Wireless network configuration. The ARCH ISO makes wifi-menu available. The wifi-menu programme should be sufficiently powerful for most users to establish a connection to a known WiFi network. {{Unsigned|11:49, 18 October 2016|Deggy}}<br />
<br />
:My eventual plan is to propose a man page for wifi_menu, then we can just link to that one instead of netctl. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 10:32, 18 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
<br />
::That would be great, I'd try to help; welcome to drop me a note about it. In the meantime I'd be +1 to Deggy's suggestion. Simplest way for new Archers, most of them will be used to a distro automatically enabling a network tool. Likewise, a simple sentence above it ala "see [[dhcpcd#Running]] for a quick start and [[Network configuration]] for free choice." would make it simpler for those wired users. --[[User:Indigo|Indigo]] ([[User talk:Indigo|talk]]) 10:33, 18 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:::Thanks. Though I disagree on another link to [[dhcpcd]] in [[Installation_guide#Network_configuration]]; attentive users will have noticed that it is the method used in the installation environment, and [[Installation_guide#Configure_the_system]] specifically avoids recommending particular software choices for the new system (due to endless bickering in our user base on what's "best" or "recommended").<br />
:::Regarding wifi-menu, its usage is poorly covered even in the [[netctl]] article ([[Netctl#Wireless_.28WPA-PSK.29]] doesn't even mention how to select an interface) so that, or said man page, should be fixed first in my view. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 22:38, 18 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
::::[https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Netctl&type=revision&diff=471232&oldid=471030] Well, in this case "The [[dhcpcd]] daemon is [https://git.archlinux.org/archiso.git/tree/configs/releng/airootfs/etc/udev/rules.d/81-dhcpcd.rules enabled] on boot for '''wired''' devices,.." should be changed to "On the installation image the [[dhcpcd]] daemon is [[enable]]d on boot for '''wired''' devices,...", because the crosslink helps a new user more than the udev rule and it currently suggests a non-existent default. Likewise, [[Installation guide#Network configuration]] should clarify it again with "The newly installed environment has no network connection activated per default. See [[Network configuration]] to configure one." --[[User:Indigo|Indigo]] ([[User talk:Indigo|talk]]) 00:00, 19 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Sounds reasonable and would also strike off one point in [[#Notes]]. :) I think the link to the udev rule is still useful though, perhaps suitable for the ''wired'' word. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 02:13, 19 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
::::::[https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Installation_guide&type=revision&diff=471297&oldid=469435] @Deggy: Your suggestion not fully picked up yet, but for now ''wifi-menu'' is directly mentioned behind the [[Netctl#Wireless_.28WPA-PSK.29|netctl]] link. --[[User:Indigo|Indigo]] ([[User talk:Indigo|talk]]) 18:01, 19 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:::::::Different suggestion: remove the links to [[netctl]] & co. alltogether, as this is already described in [[Wireless configuration]]. The table in [[Wireless_network_configuration#Automatic_setup]] could be expanded or generalized to mention {{Pkg|wireless-tools}} is unavailable on archiso.<br />
:::::::In other words:<br />
::::::::If no connection is available, [[stop]] the ''dhcpcd'' service with {{ic|systemctl stop dhcpcd@}}, {{ic|Tab}} and see [[Network configuration]] for '''wired''' devices or [[Wireless network configuration]] for '''wireless''' devices.<br />
:::::::-- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 12:46, 17 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::Implemented. Closing. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 13:37, 25 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== <s>Suggest using genfstab -t PARTUUID for GPT partition tables.</s> ==<br />
<br />
The guide currently suggests using -U or -L for UUIDs or labels respectively. I think there should be some mention of using PARTUUIDs for GPT partition tables.<br />
<br />
[[User:BrandonSchumann|BrandonSchumann]] ([[User talk:BrandonSchumann|talk]]) 20:28, 30 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:PARTUUID's aren't always generated. At least in my case with using btrfs subvolumes it doesn't output them when using "-t PARTUUID". -- [[User:Rdeckard|Rdeckard]] ([[User_talk:Rdeckard|talk]]) 11:30, 16 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
::Closing for lack of further comments. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 13:38, 25 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Include hint at top of page for install.txt ==<br />
<br />
Inform users that a copy of the installation guide can be found in ~/install.txt on the live CD.<br />
<br />
This would be incredibly helpful for users who potentially don't have access to two computers at the same time. {{unsigned|23:33, 13 November 2017|Cheeseypi}}<br />
<br />
:install.txt is not a real copy in the sense that all wiki links are missing, and those without two computers can simply switch ttys to elinks as is described in [[Installation_guide#Pre-installation]] (throughout the guide, a working internet connection is assumed). -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 07:57, 14 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== <s>Document changes for filesystem package / Update sections where necessary</s> ==<br />
<br />
The filesystem package underwent some changes and the installation guide is not up to date anymore. Especially the part about the hosts file is not correct anymore. Additionally, group ids are not static anymore.<br />
<br />
For details please have a look here:<br />
<br />
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1754949#p1754949<br />
<br />
{{unsigned|07:20, 14 December 2017|Jrk}}<br />
<br />
:[https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/diff/trunk/hosts?h=packages/filesystem&id=20928f58767d34ed6711befd6255f6a0b1706ae8 Here] is the change in question. -- [[User:Rdeckard|Rdeckard]] ([[User_talk:Rdeckard|talk]]) 01:51, 23 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
<br />
::Manually changing {{ic|/etc/hosts}} is now more required than before since otherwise localhost is resolved over the network. See {{Bug|56684}}. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 13:06, 25 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Link to the German version==<br />
Instead of [[de:Arch Install Scripts]] you could choose [[de:Anleitung für Einsteiger]] it means "Beginner's Guid" and is a very <br />
detailed artikel for very new arch users and future experts.</div>Tuxnixhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Talk:Installation_guide&diff=509753Talk:Installation guide2018-02-04T21:46:11Z<p>Tuxnix: Link to the German version</p>
<hr />
<div>== Read this first before adding new suggestions ==<br />
<br />
* systemd tools such as ''hostnamectl'', ''timedatectl'' and ''localectl'' [https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/798#issuecomment-126568596 do not work] in the installation chroot environment, so please do not propose to use them in the guide unless you can prove that they have been made to work also in that case. See [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Talk:Beginners%27_guide&oldid=388727#General_problems], [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Talk:Beginners%27_guide&oldid=404695#Replace_commands_with_their_systemd_equivalents], [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Talk:Beginners%27_guide&oldid=418662#Utilizing_systemd_tools] and [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Talk:Installation_guide&oldid=434985#change_configuration_system_from_old_way_to_new_way.28using_systemd_commands.29] for some past discussions about this issue.<br />
* {{ic|localectl list-keymaps}} does not work due to bug {{Bug|46725}}. For the chosen replacement command, see [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Talk:Beginners%27_guide&oldid=435044#localectl].<br />
* {{ic|localhost}} must be set explicitely in {{ic|/etc/hosts}}, as it is otherwise resolved over the network. See {{Bug|56684}}.<br />
-- [[ArchWiki:Administrators|The ArchWiki Administrators]] 22:17, 2 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== pacman-key --populate ==<br />
<br />
:''[Moved from [[Talk:Beginners' guide]]. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 20:38, 12 July 2016 (UTC)]''<br />
<br />
Reference: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Beginners%27_guide&diff=next&oldid=411670<br />
I tried to install Archlinux on my new computer and got stuck. Only using the {{ic|pacman-key --populate archlinux}} helped me. I think I am not the only one having this problem. But why did you undo it? {{Unsigned|20:38, 12 December 2015|Sandstorm}}<br />
:This command is already run for the new system (by installation of archlinux-keyring), so running it by hand shouldn't be required for most users. Of course, things can go wrong (how old was the ISO you used to install the system?), but that belongs in Troubleshooting sections of the respective articles, which are linked at the beginning of the guide. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 19:52, 12 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
::I had downloaded the ISO just yesterday, minutes before the install. Only that command installed the keys. Probably I should open a bug if you can confirm the issue?<br />
:::Did you have to run pacman-key after, or before pacstrap? And do you recall what the error messages said exactly? (See also {{Bug|31286}}) -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 20:15, 12 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::I had to run after pacstrap. As far as I remember, pacstrap stopped after trying to download the keys. The error message was something like shown in this forum post: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=165367<br />
:::::Well then, as you suggested, I'd open a bug report. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 20:34, 12 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::::Done. Could you check if the description is good. I could not find an appropriate category, so I though Packages:Core might be the closest one. https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/47351 --[[User:Sandstorm|Sandstorm]] ([[User talk:Sandstorm|talk]]) 20:48, 12 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Thanks, the description looks OK. If the category e.a is not right, [[Special:Contributions/Scimmia|User:Scimmia]] should fix it. :P -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 13:59, 13 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
<br />
::::::::Hmm, looks like it was closed with "Works for me" ... not very enlightening. All I can suggest is to further improve on [[Pacman/Package signing]] and related articles, and recheck if they're accessible enough from the Beginners' guide. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 21:59, 12 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Switch to systemd-networkd ==<br />
<br />
Next ISOs may use systemd-networkd instead of dhcpcd, see [https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-releng/2016-July/003739.html] -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 10:26, 19 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== <s>Wireless Configuration</s> ==<br />
<br />
The advice for wireless network setup to refer to the wireless networking page in the Wiki could present a new user with a significant hurdle to overcome. The ARCH ISO contains wifi-menu, which should be sufficient for most purposes to establish a wireless network conneciton. I propose that informaton be added to the networking section at the start of the page stating:<br />
<br />
For wireless connections, iw(8), wpa_supplicant(8) and netctl are available. See Wireless network configuration. The ARCH ISO makes wifi-menu available. The wifi-menu programme should be sufficiently powerful for most users to establish a connection to a known WiFi network. {{Unsigned|11:49, 18 October 2016|Deggy}}<br />
<br />
:My eventual plan is to propose a man page for wifi_menu, then we can just link to that one instead of netctl. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 10:32, 18 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
<br />
::That would be great, I'd try to help; welcome to drop me a note about it. In the meantime I'd be +1 to Deggy's suggestion. Simplest way for new Archers, most of them will be used to a distro automatically enabling a network tool. Likewise, a simple sentence above it ala "see [[dhcpcd#Running]] for a quick start and [[Network configuration]] for free choice." would make it simpler for those wired users. --[[User:Indigo|Indigo]] ([[User talk:Indigo|talk]]) 10:33, 18 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:::Thanks. Though I disagree on another link to [[dhcpcd]] in [[Installation_guide#Network_configuration]]; attentive users will have noticed that it is the method used in the installation environment, and [[Installation_guide#Configure_the_system]] specifically avoids recommending particular software choices for the new system (due to endless bickering in our user base on what's "best" or "recommended").<br />
:::Regarding wifi-menu, its usage is poorly covered even in the [[netctl]] article ([[Netctl#Wireless_.28WPA-PSK.29]] doesn't even mention how to select an interface) so that, or said man page, should be fixed first in my view. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 22:38, 18 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
::::[https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Netctl&type=revision&diff=471232&oldid=471030] Well, in this case "The [[dhcpcd]] daemon is [https://git.archlinux.org/archiso.git/tree/configs/releng/airootfs/etc/udev/rules.d/81-dhcpcd.rules enabled] on boot for '''wired''' devices,.." should be changed to "On the installation image the [[dhcpcd]] daemon is [[enable]]d on boot for '''wired''' devices,...", because the crosslink helps a new user more than the udev rule and it currently suggests a non-existent default. Likewise, [[Installation guide#Network configuration]] should clarify it again with "The newly installed environment has no network connection activated per default. See [[Network configuration]] to configure one." --[[User:Indigo|Indigo]] ([[User talk:Indigo|talk]]) 00:00, 19 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Sounds reasonable and would also strike off one point in [[#Notes]]. :) I think the link to the udev rule is still useful though, perhaps suitable for the ''wired'' word. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 02:13, 19 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
::::::[https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Installation_guide&type=revision&diff=471297&oldid=469435] @Deggy: Your suggestion not fully picked up yet, but for now ''wifi-menu'' is directly mentioned behind the [[Netctl#Wireless_.28WPA-PSK.29|netctl]] link. --[[User:Indigo|Indigo]] ([[User talk:Indigo|talk]]) 18:01, 19 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::Different suggestion: remove the links to [[netctl]] & co. alltogether, as this is already described in [[Wireless configuration]]. The table in [[Wireless_network_configuration#Automatic_setup]] could be expanded or generalized to mention {{Pkg|wireless-tools}} is unavailable on archiso.<br />
:::::::In other words:<br />
::::::::If no connection is available, [[stop]] the ''dhcpcd'' service with {{ic|systemctl stop dhcpcd@}}, {{ic|Tab}} and see [[Network configuration]] for '''wired''' devices or [[Wireless network configuration]] for '''wireless''' devices.<br />
:::::::-- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 12:46, 17 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::Implemented. Closing. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 13:37, 25 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== <s>Suggest using genfstab -t PARTUUID for GPT partition tables.</s> ==<br />
<br />
The guide currently suggests using -U or -L for UUIDs or labels respectively. I think there should be some mention of using PARTUUIDs for GPT partition tables.<br />
<br />
[[User:BrandonSchumann|BrandonSchumann]] ([[User talk:BrandonSchumann|talk]]) 20:28, 30 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:PARTUUID's aren't always generated. At least in my case with using btrfs subvolumes it doesn't output them when using "-t PARTUUID". -- [[User:Rdeckard|Rdeckard]] ([[User_talk:Rdeckard|talk]]) 11:30, 16 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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::Closing for lack of further comments. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 13:38, 25 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Include hint at top of page for install.txt ==<br />
<br />
Inform users that a copy of the installation guide can be found in ~/install.txt on the live CD.<br />
<br />
This would be incredibly helpful for users who potentially don't have access to two computers at the same time. {{unsigned|23:33, 13 November 2017|Cheeseypi}}<br />
<br />
:install.txt is not a real copy in the sense that all wiki links are missing, and those without two computers can simply switch ttys to elinks as is described in [[Installation_guide#Pre-installation]] (throughout the guide, a working internet connection is assumed). -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 07:57, 14 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== <s>Document changes for filesystem package / Update sections where necessary</s> ==<br />
<br />
The filesystem package underwent some changes and the installation guide is not up to date anymore. Especially the part about the hosts file is not correct anymore. Additionally, group ids are not static anymore.<br />
<br />
For details please have a look here:<br />
<br />
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1754949#p1754949<br />
<br />
{{unsigned|07:20, 14 December 2017|Jrk}}<br />
<br />
:[https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/diff/trunk/hosts?h=packages/filesystem&id=20928f58767d34ed6711befd6255f6a0b1706ae8 Here] is the change in question. -- [[User:Rdeckard|Rdeckard]] ([[User_talk:Rdeckard|talk]]) 01:51, 23 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::Manually changing {{ic|/etc/hosts}} is now more required than before since otherwise localhost is resolved over the network. See {{Bug|56684}}. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 13:06, 25 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Link to the German version==<br />
Instead of [[de:Arch Install Scripts]] you could choose [[de:Anleitung für Einsteiger]] it means "Beginner's Guid" and is a very <br />
detailed "how to" for very new arch users and future experts.</div>Tuxnixhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=User:Tuxnix&diff=408539User:Tuxnix2015-11-08T20:17:24Z<p>Tuxnix: </p>
<hr />
<div>hd-idle dient dazu SATA-Festplatten in den Standbymodus zu versetzen.<br />
<br />
Es ist ein community Paket und lässt sich mit pacman -S hd-idle installieren.<br />
<br><br />
<br><br />
Hinweis:<br />
Festplatten werden bei zu häufigem Ein und Ausschalten verschlissen.<br />
Es ist also nicht empfehlenswert die Zeitspanne bis die Platte in den standby geht zu kurz anzusetzen.<br><br />
Die Systemplatte sollte nie in den standby gesetzt werden, da das System ständig darauf zugreift.<br />
<br />
<br />
Zunächst solle die Konfigurationsdatei /etc/conf.d/hd-idle editiert werden.<br />
<br />
<br />
Ein Bsp. für eine /etc/conf.d/hd-idle:<br />
-------------------------------------<br />
START_HD_IDLE=true<br><br />
hd-idle -i 0 -a /dev/disk/by-uuid/ba992d95-7630-41fb-b446-453bb32205a8 -i 1800 <br />
--------------------------------------<br />
<br><br />
Zu den einzelnen Angaben:<br><br />
START_HD_IDLE=true #hd-idle wird automatisch ausgeführt<br><br />
hd-idle -i 0 #keine (andere) Platte wird ins standby gefahren<br><br />
-a /dev/disk/by-uuid/ba992d95-7630-41fb-b446-453bb32205a8 #die Platte die automatisch heruntergefahren werden soll.<br><br />
-i die Zeitangabe in Sekunden.<br><br />
<br><br />
Angabe der Festplatte:<br><br />
Bei diesem Beispiel ist die Festplatte mit der UUID angegeben.<br><br />
Stattdessen kann sie auch mit /dev/disk/by-label/[LABEL] angegeben werden.<br><br />
<br><br />
Beide Angaben erhält man auf der Konsole mit:<br><br />
$ sudo blkid<br><br />
<br><br />
Die Angabe der Festplatte mit "/dev/sdb" ist möglich, aber weniger zu empfehlen, da sich diese Bezeichnug auch mal ändern kann.<br><br />
<br><br />
Service einrichten und starten:<br><br />
sudo systemctl enable --now hd-idle<br><br />
<br />
<br />
Der Status der Platte kann abgefragt werden mit:<br><br />
$ sudo hdparm -C /dev/sdb<br><br />
<br><br />
<br><br />
<br><br />
<br />
Hinweis: Dies Seite ist ganz frisch und muß von mir noch fertig editiert werden.</div>Tuxnixhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=User:Tuxnix&diff=408538User:Tuxnix2015-11-08T20:10:20Z<p>Tuxnix: </p>
<hr />
<div>hd-idle dient dazu SATA-Festplatten in den Standbymodus zu versetzen.<br />
<br />
Es ist ein community Paket und lässt sich mit pacman -S hd-idle installieren.<br />
<br><br />
<br><br />
Hinweis:<br />
Festplatten werden bei zu häufigem Ein und Ausschalten verschlissen.<br />
Es ist also nicht empfehlenswert die Zeitspanne bis die Platte in den standby geht zu kurz anzusetzen.<br><br />
Die Systemplatte sollte nie in den standby gesetzt werden, da das System ständig darauf zugreift.<br />
<br />
<br />
Zunächst solle die Konfigurationsdatei /etc/conf.d/hd-idle editiert werden.<br />
<br />
<br />
Ein Bsp. für eine /etc/conf.d/hd-idle:<br />
-------------------------------------<br />
START_HD_IDLE=true<br><br />
hd-idle -i 0 -a /dev/disk/by-uuid/ba992d95-7630-41fb-b446-453bb32205a8 -i 1800 <br />
--------------------------------------<br />
<br><br />
Zu den einzelnen Angaben:<br />
START_HD_IDLE=true #hd-idle wird automatisch ausgeführt<br><br />
hd-idle -i 0 #keine (andere) Platte wird ins standby gefahren<br><br />
-a /dev/disk/by-uuid/ba992d95-7630-41fb-b446-453bb32205a8 #die Platte die automatisch heruntergefahren werden soll.<br><br />
-i die Zeitangabe in Sekunden.<br><br />
<br><br />
Angabe der Festplatte:<br><br />
Bei diesem Beispiel ist die Festplatte mit der UUID angegeben.<br><br />
Stattdessen kann sie auch mit /dev/disk/by-label/[LABEL] angegeben werden.<br><br />
<br><br />
Beide Angaben erhält man auf der Konsole mit:<br><br />
$ sudo blkid<br><br />
<br><br />
Die Angabe der Festplatte mit "/dev/sdb" ist möglich, aber weniger zu empfehlen, da sich diese Bezeichnug auch mal ändern kann.<br><br />
<br><br />
Service einrichten und starten:<br><br />
sudo systemctl enable --now hd-idle<br><br />
<br />
<br />
Der Status der Platte kann mit abgefragt werden:<br><br />
$ sudo hdparm -C /dev/sdb<br><br />
<br><br />
<br><br />
<br><br />
<br />
Hinweis: Dies Seite ist ganz frisch und muß von mir noch fertig editiert werden.</div>Tuxnixhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=User:Tuxnix&diff=408537User:Tuxnix2015-11-08T20:02:52Z<p>Tuxnix: </p>
<hr />
<div>hd-idle dient dazu SATA-Festplatten in den Standbymodus zu versetzen.<br />
<br />
Es ist ein community Paket und lässt sich mit pacman -S hd-idle installieren.<br />
<br />
Hinweis:<br />
Festplatten werden bei zu häufigem Ein und Ausschalten verschlissen.<br />
Es ist also nicht empfehlenswert die Zeitspanne bis die Platte in den standby geht zu kurz anzusetzen.<br />
Die Systemplatte sollte nie in den standby gesetzt werden, da das System ständig darauf zugreift.<br />
<br />
<br />
Zunächst solle die Konfigurationsdatei /etc/conf.d/hd-idle editiert werden.<br />
<br />
<br />
Bsp. für eine /etc/conf.d/hd-idle:<br />
-------------------------------------<br />
START_HD_IDLE=true<br />
hd-idle -i 0 -a /dev/disk/by-uuid/ba992d95-7630-41fb-b446-453bb32205a8 -i 1800 <br />
--------------------------------------<br />
<br />
START_HD_IDLE=true #hd-idle wird automatisch ausgeführt<br />
hd-idle -i 0 #keine (andere) Platte wird ins standby gefahren<br />
-a /dev/disk/by-uuid/ba992d95-7630-41fb-b446-453bb32205a8 #die Platte die automatisch heruntergefahren werden soll.<br />
-i die Zeitangabe in Sekunden.<br />
<br />
Angabe der Festplatte:<br />
Bei diesem Beispiel ist die Festplatte mit der UUID angegeben.<br />
Stattdessen kann sie auch mit /dev/disk/by-label/[LABEL] angegeben werden.<br />
<br />
Beide Angaben erhält man auf der Konsole mit:<br />
$ sudo blkid<br />
<br />
Die Angabe der Festplatte mit "/dev/sdb" ist möglich, aber weniger zu empfehlen, da sich diese Bezeichnug auch mal ändern kann.<br />
<br />
Service einrichten und starten:<br />
sudo systemctl enable --now hd-idle<br />
<br />
<br />
Plattenstatus abfragen<br />
$ sudo hdparm -C /dev/sdb<br />
<br><br />
<br><br />
<br><br />
<br />
Hinweis: Dies Seite ist ganz frisch und muß von mir noch fertig editiert werden.</div>Tuxnixhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=User:Tuxnix&diff=408534User:Tuxnix2015-11-08T19:59:08Z<p>Tuxnix: </p>
<hr />
<div>hd-idle dient dazu SATA-Festplatten in den Standbymodus zu versetzen.<br />
<br />
Es ist ein community paket und lässt sich mit pacman -S hd-idle installieren.<br />
<br />
Hinweis:<br />
Festplatten werden bei zu häufigem Ein und Ausschalten verschlissen.<br />
Es ist also nicht empfehlenswert die Zeitspanne bis die Platte in den standby geht zu kurz anzusetzen.<br />
Die Systemplatte sollte nie in den standby gesetzt werden, da das System ständig darauf zugreifen muss.<br />
<br />
<br />
Zunächst solle die Konfigurationsdatei /etc/conf.d/hd-idle editiert werden.<br />
<br />
<br />
Bsp. für eine /etc/conf.d/hd-idle:<br />
-------------------------------------<br />
START_HD_IDLE=true<br />
hd-idle -i 0 -a /dev/disk/by-uuid/ba992d95-7630-41fb-b446-453bb32205a8 -i 1800 <br />
--------------------------------------<br />
<br />
START_HD_IDLE=true #hd-idle wird automatisch ausgeführt<br />
hd-idle -i 0 #keine (andere) Platte wird ins standby gefahren<br />
-a /dev/disk/by-uuid/ba992d95-7630-41fb-b446-453bb32205a8 #die Platte die automatisch heruntergefahren werden soll.<br />
-i die Zeitangabe in Sekunden.<br />
<br />
Angabe der Festplatte:<br />
Bei diesem Beispiel ist die Festplatte mit der UUID angegeben.<br />
Stattdessen kann auch mit /dev/disk/by-label/[LABEL] angegeben werden.<br />
<br />
Beides kann auf der Konsole mit:<br />
$ sudo blkid<br />
abgefragt werden.<br />
<br />
Die Angabe der Festplatte mit "/dev/sdb" ist weniger zu empfehlen, da sich diese Bezeichnug unter Umständen auch mal ändern kann.<br />
<br />
Service einrichten und starten:<br />
sudo systemctl enable --now hd-idle<br />
<br />
<br />
Plattenstatus abfragen<br />
$ sudo hdparm -C /dev/sdb<br />
<br><br />
<br><br />
<br><br />
<br />
Hinweis: Dies seite ist ganz frisch und muß noch editiert werden.</div>Tuxnixhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=User:Tuxnix&diff=408532User:Tuxnix2015-11-08T19:58:25Z<p>Tuxnix: </p>
<hr />
<div>hd-idle dient dazu SATA-Festplatten in den Standbymodus zu versetzen.<br />
<br />
Es ist ein community paket und lässt sich mit pacman -S hd-idle installieren.<br />
<br />
Hinweis:<br />
Festplatten werden bei zu häufigem Ein und Ausschalten verschlissen.<br />
Es ist also nicht empfehlenswert die Zeitspanne bis die Platte in den standby geht zu kurz anzusetzen.<br />
Die Systemplatte sollte nie in den standby gesetzt werden, da das System ständig darauf zugreifen muss.<br />
<br />
<br />
Zunächst solle die Konfigurationsdatei /etc/conf.d/hd-idle editiert werden.<br />
<br />
<br />
Bsp. für eine /etc/conf.d/hd-idle:<br />
-------------------------------------<br />
START_HD_IDLE=true<br />
hd-idle -i 0 -a /dev/disk/by-uuid/ba992d95-7630-41fb-b446-453bb32205a8 -i 1800 <br />
--------------------------------------<br />
<br />
START_HD_IDLE=true #hd-idle wird automatisch ausgeführt<br />
hd-idle -i 0 #keine (andere) Platte wird ins standby gefahren<br />
-a /dev/disk/by-uuid/ba992d95-7630-41fb-b446-453bb32205a8 #die Platte die automatisch heruntergefahren werden soll.<br />
-i die Zeitangabe in Sekunden.<br />
<br />
Angabe der Festplatte:<br />
Bei diesem Beispiel ist die Festplatte mit der UUID angegeben.<br />
Stattdessen kann auch mit /dev/disk/by-label/[LABEL] angegeben werden.<br />
<br />
Beides kann auf der Konsole mit:<br />
$ sudo blkid<br />
abgefragt werden.<br />
<br />
Die Angabe der Festplatte mit "/dev/sdb" ist weniger zu empfehlen, da sich diese Bezeichnug unter Umständen auch mal ändern kann.<br />
<br />
Service einrichten und starten:<br />
sudo systemctl enable --now hd-idle<br />
<br />
<br />
Plattenstatus abfragen<br />
$ sudo hdparm -C /dev/sdb<br />
<br />
Hinweis: Dies seite ist ganz neu und muß noch editiert werden.</div>Tuxnixhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=User:Tuxnix&diff=408531User:Tuxnix2015-11-08T19:56:47Z<p>Tuxnix: Created page with "hd-idle dient dazu SATA-Festplatten in den standbymodus zu versetzen. Es ist ein community paket und lässt sich mit pacman -S hd-idle installieren. Hinweis: Festplatten wer..."</p>
<hr />
<div>hd-idle dient dazu SATA-Festplatten in den standbymodus zu versetzen.<br />
<br />
Es ist ein community paket und lässt sich mit pacman -S hd-idle installieren.<br />
<br />
Hinweis:<br />
Festplatten werden bei zu häufigem Ein und Ausschalten verschlissen.<br />
Es ist also nicht empfehlenswert die Zeitspanne bis die Platte in den standby geht zu kurz anzusetzen.<br />
Die Systemplatte sollte nie in den standby gesetzt werden, da das System ständig darauf zugreifen muss.<br />
<br />
<br />
Zunächst solle die Konfigurationsdatei /etc/conf.d/hd-idle editiert werden.<br />
<br />
<br />
Bsp. für eine /etc/conf.d/hd-idle:<br />
-------------------------------------<br />
START_HD_IDLE=true<br />
hd-idle -i 0 -a /dev/disk/by-uuid/ba992d95-7630-41fb-b446-453bb32205a8 -i 1800 <br />
--------------------------------------<br />
<br />
START_HD_IDLE=true #hd-idle wird automatisch ausgeführt<br />
hd-idle -i 0 #keine (andere) Platte wird ins standby gefahren<br />
-a /dev/disk/by-uuid/ba992d95-7630-41fb-b446-453bb32205a8 #die Platte die automatisch heruntergefahren werden soll.<br />
-i die Zeitangabe in Sekunden.<br />
<br />
Angabe der Festplatte:<br />
Bei diesem Beispiel ist die Festplatte mit der UUID angegeben.<br />
Stattdessen kann auch mit /dev/disk/by-label/[LABEL] angegeben werden.<br />
<br />
Beides kann auf der Konsole mit:<br />
$ sudo blkid<br />
abgefragt werden.<br />
<br />
Die Angabe der Festplatte mit "/dev/sdb" ist weniger zu empfehlen, da sich diese Bezeichnug unter Umständen auch mal ändern kann.<br />
<br />
Service einrichten und starten:<br />
sudo systemctl enable --now hd-idle<br />
<br />
<br />
Plattenstatus abfragen<br />
#$ sudo hdparm -C /dev/sdb</div>Tuxnixhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Tuxnix&diff=408514User talk:Tuxnix2015-11-08T18:54:08Z<p>Tuxnix: Tuxnix moved page User talk:Tuxnix to ArchWiki:Tuxnix</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[ArchWiki:Tuxnix]]</div>Tuxnix