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https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=ArchWiki_talk:Requests&diff=803467&oldid=795190
ArchWiki talk:Requests
2024-03-16T10:10:52Z
<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Arch's git URLs: </span> strike exhausted entry</span></p>
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Erus Iluvatar
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=ArchWiki_talk:Maintenance_Team&diff=803463&oldid=803420
ArchWiki talk:Maintenance Team
2024-03-16T10:00:15Z
<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Add a rule about regulating self promotion: </span> re, close</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Add a rule about regulating self promotion ==</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><s></ins>Add a rule about regulating self promotion<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></s> </ins>==</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Self promotion, whether done "malicously" or not, has, in my view, been increasing here. It has been present in the past and will be present in the future. We do not have any rule we can refer to and that often causes unnecessary conflicts between people undoing the self promotion and the one adding it.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Self promotion, whether done "malicously" or not, has, in my view, been increasing here. It has been present in the past and will be present in the future. We do not have any rule we can refer to and that often causes unnecessary conflicts between people undoing the self promotion and the one adding it.</div></td></tr>
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Erus Iluvatar
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Help:Editing&diff=803461&oldid=799485
Help:Editing
2024-03-16T09:56:44Z
<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Creating an account: </span> reword to avoid repeating "before"</span></p>
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Erus Iluvatar
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=ArchWiki:Contributing&diff=803455&oldid=773546
ArchWiki:Contributing
2024-03-16T09:46:02Z
<p>Make the link to our Code of conduct more explicit, per consensus at <a href="/title/Special:PermanentLink/802594#Add_a_rule_about_regulating_self_promotion" title="Special:PermanentLink/802594">ArchWiki talk:Maintenance Team#Add a rule about regulating self promotion</a></p>
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https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=ArchWiki_talk:Maintenance_Team&diff=803420&oldid=803331
ArchWiki talk:Maintenance Team
2024-03-16T07:01:47Z
<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Disabling (some) archival redirections: </span> re</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Many articles of old software or old advice are archived. This is understandable.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Many articles of old software or old advice are archived. This is understandable.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::How about redirecting archived articles to alternatives OR if no alternatives exist to a section of a non-archived article that explains why tool X was deprecated. E.g: [[netstat]] is deprecated but it redirects to [[Network_configuration#Investigate_sockets]] section which provides the alternative OR explains the reason for deprecation. No stubs will be harmed in this process. [[User:AvidSeeker|AvidSeeker]] ([[User talk:AvidSeeker|talk]]) 19:41, 15 March 2024 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::How about redirecting archived articles to alternatives OR if no alternatives exist to a section of a non-archived article that explains why tool X was deprecated. E.g: [[netstat]] is deprecated but it redirects to [[Network_configuration#Investigate_sockets]] section which provides the alternative OR explains the reason for deprecation. No stubs will be harmed in this process. [[User:AvidSeeker|AvidSeeker]] ([[User talk:AvidSeeker|talk]]) 19:41, 15 March 2024 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=ArchWiki_talk:Maintenance_Team&diff=803331&oldid=803317
ArchWiki talk:Maintenance Team
2024-03-15T19:41:08Z
<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Disabling (some) archival redirections: </span> Reply</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: This way you create ''stub talk pages'' and the rest of my argument still applies. — [[User:Lahwaacz|Lahwaacz]] ([[User talk:Lahwaacz|talk]]) 17:05, 15 March 2024 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: This way you create ''stub talk pages'' and the rest of my argument still applies. — [[User:Lahwaacz|Lahwaacz]] ([[User talk:Lahwaacz|talk]]) 17:05, 15 March 2024 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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AvidSeeker
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=ArchWiki_talk:Maintenance_Team&diff=803317&oldid=803312
ArchWiki talk:Maintenance Team
2024-03-15T18:24:51Z
<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Disabling (some) archival redirections: </span> edit</span></p>
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Erus Iluvatar
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=ArchWiki_talk:Maintenance_Team&diff=803312&oldid=803277
ArchWiki talk:Maintenance Team
2024-03-15T17:05:49Z
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: Then how about mentioning the reason in the discussion page of the archived pages? This way no stubs are created and users don't need to browse history to see the reason and alternative. --[[User:AvidSeeker|AvidSeeker]] ([[User talk:AvidSeeker|talk]]) 13:55, 15 March 2024 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: Then how about mentioning the reason in the discussion page of the archived pages? This way no stubs are created and users don't need to browse history to see the reason and alternative. --[[User:AvidSeeker|AvidSeeker]] ([[User talk:AvidSeeker|talk]]) 13:55, 15 March 2024 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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ArchWiki talk:Maintenance Team
2024-03-15T13:55:22Z
<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Disabling (some) archival redirections: </span> dis pages</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Unlike redirects, stub pages clutter the search results and category pages. Somebody would also have to ''maintain'' these stub pages to ensure that the additional hints are correct. This is pretty useless since most of the time people are not interested in outdated, historical information. If we expect that many people are still interested in a particular topic, we would not archive the page in the first place. — [[User:Lahwaacz|Lahwaacz]] ([[User talk:Lahwaacz|talk]]) 12:14, 10 March 2024 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Unlike redirects, stub pages clutter the search results and category pages. Somebody would also have to ''maintain'' these stub pages to ensure that the additional hints are correct. This is pretty useless since most of the time people are not interested in outdated, historical information. If we expect that many people are still interested in a particular topic, we would not archive the page in the first place. — [[User:Lahwaacz|Lahwaacz]] ([[User talk:Lahwaacz|talk]]) 12:14, 10 March 2024 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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