Talk:Install Arch Linux on a removable medium
Before creating the initial RAM disk (mkinitcpio)
The correct custom configuration of the initial RAM disk is a step that very few users of arch need to do so is a thing that needs to be highlighted for this use case. Also the placement of this information in Installation tweaks makes it appear that is optional so i think that it will be better if the information is moved to configuration.
I am experiencing serius I/O errors after suspending / resuming with arch on a usb key. These issues have been described in several bugreports: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30912
I tried following the steps in https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/usb/persist.txt
but to no avail. The usb persist feature was already activated on my USB deve but I/O errors kept coming on resume
I also found this post in ubuntuforums
which explains the issue as follows
"...during resume there will be a race between the USB system on one hand trying to detect media and syslog on the other hand trying to write log messages from suspend and resume to disk.
If syslog happens to attempt a write before the USB device has been detected ext4 gets an error, which for some reason isn't handled cleanly and eventually the file system will need fsck to be run manually."
The author suggest patching the kernel to give kernel threads a head start on resume. Intuitively, I feel there must be an easier way!
Boot Both BIOS and UEFI
Creating a USB flash drive that boots both BIOS on UEFI takes a very specific boot layout that's described here: http://valleycat.org/linux/arch-usb.html#partition
Should we add a section for this like they have in the Partitioning wiki or do step by step like the guide?
Change page's name
Hello, can we change name of this page to something like this - Installing Arch Linux on a removable media?
Because beside USB key you can install it on external HDD, SSD with sata>usb adapter or even M.2 SSD to USB.
I think this can be awesome, because you can take your full linux system everywhere with you.
With enough disk space and USB 3 you can transform every computer to your computer.
Important things here are - BIOS/UEFI and video drivers
- I support moving this page to "... on a removable media". The exact title this (and other similar pages) should have is being discussed in Category talk:Installation process#Harmonization of installation titles. -- nl6720 (talk) 09:03, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
- The first part of the title has been decided and implemented with Category talk:Installation process#Harmonization of installation titles.
- About the "on ..." part, I agree that it makes sense, but perhaps it would be better without "a", i.e. "on removable media", since "media" is the plural of "medium", or at most an uncountable noun; otherwise "on a removable drive".
- In either case, the article needs to be reworded here and there to refer more generically to removable media rather than USB keys.
- -- Kynikos (talk) 13:43, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
- As more grammatically correct, that'd be my first choice that too, however I'm worried about the apparent relative obscurity of the singular form, it doesn't seem to be used very often. I think the biggest obstacle is that the article even refers to the "Removable Media Bit (RMB)" which does seem to be a more standard way to address it, despite some audacious people trying to counteract the drift (it would be interesting to consult its official documentation though, which I couldn't find); it could be understood as "removable-media" bit though, in the sense of a bit which identifies removable "media" in general (mass noun), so we could leave it like that.
- As I said I can't really read "a removable media" (strongly singular) without turning my nose up a little :) but maybe using "drive" or "device" (or... "peripheral"??) is a way to avoid compromising grammatical correctness with common/natural wording perception?
- -- Kynikos (talk) 07:38, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
- One of the results from  returns https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/usb_msc_boot_1.0.pdf which uses the term "Removable Medium Bit (RMB)". I don't know if this is the official doc that governs it, though. -- nl6720 (talk) 12:03, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
- I wouldn't worry too much about search results, people usually don't put their search terms into quotes and search engines are smart enough to include even results with the other grammatical number by default... Besides, a removable medium is not even a proper noun. -- Lahwaacz (talk) 19:22, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
- A removable medium is not a proper noun, but whatever RMB stands for is :) Anyway since there isn't an evidently strict standard terminology, I'd say we have the freedom to actively contribute to the war and propose our take on it, so I've just updated the Move template and the rest of the article. -- Kynikos (talk) 09:56, 24 December 2019 (UTC)