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Problem redirects

Note: Redirects should not point to other sites and ones that do sometimes erroneously show up on these pages.

Creation requests

Here, list requests for topics that you think should be covered on ArchWiki. If not obvious, explain why ArchWiki coverage is justified (rather than existing Wikipedia articles or other documentation). Furthermore, please consider researching and creating the initial article yourself (see Help:Editing for content creation help).

HOWTO: SAMBA PDC + LDAP

How to configure SAMBA PDC + LDAP in Arch Linux? (Moved from another page. Hokstein 19:57, 16 September 2007 (EDT))

Tripwire

Finding information on the install of this program already requires a bit of searching around the net, and then a variety of modifications to get it running correctly. It would be nice to have a good HowTo about the install and setup of Tripwire on Arch. The package is availabe in community.

It has since been removed from [community], it's in the AUR now. -- Karol 21:52, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

Modification requests

Here, list requests for correction or other modification of existing articles. Only systemic modifications that affect multiple articles should be included here. If a specific page needs modification, use that page's discussion or talk page instead and one of the #General requests templates.

As a rolling release，Arch is constantly receiving update's and improvement's. Because of this the Arch wiki must be updated quickly to reflect these changes.

wireless_tools -> iw

Note: iw isn't on the install media yet

In addition to the net-tools deprecated, commands like iwconfig and iwlist are deprecated too. These should be updated to the appropriate iw commands. The one problem with this is that iw output is sometimes much more verbose.

iwconfig -> iw
- iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc --> iw wlan0 set type ibss
iwlist wlan0 scan -> iw dev wlan0 scan

thestinger (talk) 07:06, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Before doing this, I want some one familiar with recent wireless development to confirm if those command can be directly replaced. I did remember that years ago many wireless do not support iw command. -- Fengchao (talk) 14:12, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

DeveloperWiki

Many pages are out of date and I can't even flag them out of date. Should users be warned that pages in this "category" may be really old and abandoned? -- Karol 09:19, 8 October 2011 (EDT)

Perhaps we can create a special template to be included at the top of every article in that category? -- Kynikos 13:41, 8 October 2011 (EDT)

ck-launch-session dbus-launch and friends

We can remove every single mention of ck-launch-session on the wiki - consolekit support has been dropped upstream and Arch is going to drop it from all the other packages too. This was also never actually needed, since a session is already started with pam, and you simply needed to keep the session on the same tty. Using dbus-launch is usually not needed at all, and should be removed almost everywhere too. -- thestinger (talk) 18:56, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I decided just to get this right once and for all in xinitrc with the xinitrc.d snippet to start dbus, and preserving the session by keeping X on the same tty (which works with both logind and ck). It also avoids all the things that can go wrong with ck-launch-session (dbus being started first, for one). thestinger (talk) 22:24, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

TODO:

--Fengchao (talk) 01:23, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

udev update

[1] says that "The long deprecated keys: SYSFS=, ID=, BUS= have been removed." (among other changes). Many wiki articles use them in the udev rules.

MediaWiki Visual Editor

References to the Visual editor sandbox should me made on the Wiki and BBS, especially where new users will easily come across it. ~ Filam 16:12, 16 December 2011 (EST)

Move/Merge articles to external wikis

Although French and Finnish have their own wikis, we're still hosting some articles in those languages:

Some users of those wikis should probably be contacted in order to complete the move/merge, replacing those articles with interlanguage links at least on the respective English pages.

-- Kynikos (talk) 16:34, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Add Serbian articles to the list: (Српски), (Srpski). -- Kynikos (talk) 15:22, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

New dependencies for pacman

Some parts of the wiki may need updating, e.g. [2] (the last one in the FAQ). -- Karol 08:39, 20 January 2012 (EST)

There are actually quite a few dependencies that aren't mentioned, since a broken dependency of pacman would also break pacman (can see them all with pactree -l pacman | sort -u | cut -f 1 -d ' '). The packages that would need to be downloaded and extracted would vary depending on which partial upgrade was done. thestinger 15:19, 21 February 2012 (EST)

vmlinuz26

Instead of flagging all articles still using the old kernel image naming out of date, can we do some mass-renaming? -- Karol 20:55, 20 October 2011 (EDT)

Last week, I found at one article that was using vmlinuz26 in an example for users of non-recent kernel versions. I'm not sure if we would want to keep such an example around, but we may want to decide that before doing a mass rename. And for what it's worth, I don't think it is necessary to keep such antiquated examples around. -- Jstjohn (talk) 20:53, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Of course I don't know what article you're referring to, but doing a mass-renaming with a bot sounds a bit dangerous, because as you've pointed out there may be exceptions where the old kernel names are still ok. I'm moving this discussion out of Bot requests. -- Kynikos (talk) 14:57, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

The rename is done very long time ago. I am stating to do the following except few places as mentined above.

vmlinuz26 to vmlinuz-linux
kernel26.img to initramfs-linux.img
~~kernel26-fallback.img to initramfs-linux-fallback.img~~ Done

-- Fengchao (talk) 05:40, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Clearly warn about pacman force option

In pacman page, the FAQ mentioned pacman -S --force when "file exists in filesystem" without warning clearly that --force may break the system. The pacman#Usage should clearly prevent users from using this option. Maybe something like:

Warning: Only use this option when it is recommend in the Arch News

Switch initscripts to systemd on all pages

TODO:

D-Bus: Remove or redirect to Systemd. All link to it should be check and cleaned up.

Now that initscripts no longer are supported, we should change stuff that have information with initscripts to systemd --Toringe (talk) 22:49, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Agree, all initscripts should be converted to systemd. Many old stuff could be removed safely now. -- Fengchao (talk) 01:25, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

polkit rebuild

ConsoleKit support has now been fully dropped from all packages in the repositories. There is no need for ck-launch-session and friends after this moves.

Please use link to General Troubleshooting#Session permissions to replace anything mentioning ck-launch-session, dbus-launch, problems with consolekit/logind, etc.

-- thestinger (talk) 04:40, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

virtualbox-iso-additions & Co. package name changes

I guess virtualbox-iso-additions is now called virtualbox-guest-iso. There are other changes (virtualbox-modules -> virtualbox-host-modules, virtualbox-source -> virtualbox-host-source) but the old names are not used in English articles. There may be some other changes (new names, changes to how things work), I only edited that one thing because I know nothing about virtualbox. If no more edits are needed, feel free to close this request. -- Karol (talk) 08:58, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Inconsistent block size value for dd command

There are many examples of the dd command on the ArchWiki and they use various values for the block size option. There seems to be a lot of confusion about what value to use. This is exemplified by the Using DD for disk cloning question on Server Fault. I have also collected a few examples from the ArchWiki (see: User:Filam/Block size#Disparate examples). In order to make these examples more consistent I would like to either write Block size or Dd. Then any examples could be replaced by references like the Package management style rules. What do you think of that plan? ~ Filam (talk) 19:45, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Can you give a more explicit example? For instance, how would you change this extract from User-mode_Linux#build_rootfs_image:

1.) First you have to create a single, big file into which you will install Arch Linux. This command creates a single 1 GB file, only containing zeros - should be enough for a basic Arch Linux installation.

dd if=/dev/zero of=rootfs bs=1MB count=1000

-- Kynikos (talk) 12:36, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Use internal links

[3] and [4] list all the full links that should be turned into internal links. -- Kynikos 06:03, 23 March 2012 (EDT)

It's too dangerous to perform this task with a bot. As an alternative, Wiki Monkey provides a function in editor pages that turns external links into internal ones, but still allowing the user to preview the change. -- Kynikos (talk) 07:36, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Use AUR templates

Change explicit AUR links to AUR templates.

It's too dangerous to perform this task with a bot. As an alternative, Wiki Monkey provides two functions in editor pages that turn AUR links (version 1 or 2) into AUR templates, but still allowing the user to preview the change. -- Kynikos (talk) 07:36, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Mkinitcpio hooks update

Search for "pata scsi sata" there are many results. Need to change them to block. See Mkinitcpio#Common hooks. -- Fengchao (talk) 06:32, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Move openjdk6 to jdk7-openjdk

Developer annourcement: OpenJDK6 packages will be removed by the end of this month.

All users should move to OpenJDK7 based packages jre7-openjdk/jre7-openjdk-headless/jdk7-openjdk (or the Oracle based JRE/JDK from AUR) very soon.

The next OpenJDK7 update will replace openjdk6 on the system.

There are many openjdk6 exist in Arch wiki. All of them should be removed or changed to openjdk7.

compiz and emerald got dropped to AUR

https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2013-May/024956.html

sysvinit also got removed.

I've done some updating (just the English articles), so this is more of a heads-up for anyone taking care of non-English articles or people who would like to double check if I missed something / messed something up. I don't know if e.g. this or this is the right way to approach a situation where 'foo' package is neither in the AUR nor in the repos, but there may be 'foo-git' or 'foo-no-gnome' in the AUR. It seems to clash with ArchWiki:Requests#Use_AUR_templates. I've noticed that if there's a 'foo-git' package in the AUR, when 'foo' gets dropped from the repos, no dev / TU uploads 'foo' package to the AUR - makes sense, but makes updating the wiki harder ;P

I didn't fix Emerald because I don't know which package in the AUR - if any - represents the 'standard Emerald themes'. The link to emerald needs to be updated the sentence rephrased, as it's not in the repos anymore.

Apart from that one edit, I didn't touch compiz, as it needs more extensive editing and I know nothing about it compiz. Sure, I can just remove the parts that are outdated (e.g. referring to the removed package groups) but maybe someone can do a nicer rewrite.

List of recently removed packages / package groups:

ccsm
compiz-bcop
compiz-core
compiz-decorator-gtk
compiz-decorator-kde
compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
compiz-fusion-plugins-main
compiz-manager
compizconfig-backend-gconf
compizconfig-python
emerald
emerald-themes
fusion-icon
libcompizconfig
mingetty
proftpd
slmodem
sysvinit
bmp
epiphany-extensions
mkbootcd
python-m2crypto

-- Karol (talk) 22:53, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

libgl and libgl-dri are no more

Quite a few articles mention these packages. I think that instead of libgl they should point to mesa-libgl or nvidia-libgl. libgl-dri is not provided by any package. -- Karol (talk) 12:47, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Bot requests

Here, list requests for repetitive, systemic modifications to a series of existing articles to be performed by a wiki bot.

Moving pages

Can we have a bot that will move non-English pages and fix i18n links when the English page gets moved/renamed? SSH -> Secure Shell and Cpufrequtils -> CPU Frequency Scaling and the recent examples. -- Karol 10:47, 8 September 2011 (EDT)

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 ===Problem redirects===
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 ''Here, list requests for correction or other modification of existing articles. Only systemic modifications that affect multiple articles should be included here. If a specific page needs modification, use that page's ''discussion'' or ''talk'' page instead and one of the [[#General requests]] templates.''
-As a rolling release，Arch constantly receive update and improvement. Arch wiki have to be updated quickly to reflect the changes.
+As a rolling release，Arch is constantly receiving update's and improvement's. Because of this the Arch wiki must be updated quickly to reflect these changes.
-===net-tools -> iproute2===
-{{Pkg|net-tools}} is dead upstream, and Arch has switched to using {{Pkg|iproute2}} for {{Pkg|initscripts}}. net-tools isn't a dependency of anything in {{Grp|base}}, and isn't in the base group itself &mdash; we shouldn't assume it is installed anymore.
-* ifconfig	 -> ip addr, ip link
-** ifconfig eth0 -> ip link show eth0
-** ifconfig eth0 up -> ip link set dev eth0 up
-** ifconfig eth0 down -> ip link set dev eth0 down
-** ifconfig eth0 hw ether XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX --> ip link set dev eth0 address XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
-* <s>route	-> ip route</s>
-* <s>arp	-> ip neigh [Done]</s>
-* <s>vconfig- > ip link</s>
-* <s>iptunnel	-> ip tunnel</s>
-* <s>ipmaddr	-> ip maddr</s>
-* <s>netstat	-> ss</s>
--- [[User:Thestinger|thestinger]] 11:32, 8 June 2011 (EDT)
-:{{Pkg|iproute2}} (in [testing]) is now in the {{Grp|base}} group [https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/commit/trunk?h=packages/iproute2&id=76227f63ee1920f9d25da2fb15dfb13158a53875], which is yet another reason we need to get these commands updated.
-:-- [[User:Jstjohn|Jstjohn]] ([[User talk:Jstjohn|talk]]) 22:13, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 ===wireless_tools -> iw===
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 [[User:Thestinger|thestinger]] ([[User talk:Thestinger|talk]]) 07:06, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
+: Before doing this, I want some one familiar with recent wireless development to confirm if those command can be directly replaced. I did remember that years ago many wireless do not support iw command.  -- [[User:Fengchao|Fengchao]] ([[User talk:Fengchao|talk]]) 14:12, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 ===DeveloperWiki===
 Many pages are out of date and I can't even flag them out of date. Should users be warned that pages in this "category" may be really old and abandoned? -- [[User:Karol|Karol]] 09:19, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
 :Perhaps we can create a special template to be included at the top of every article in that category? -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 13:41, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
-===Remove -f short option for --force===
-It's not live yet [https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/pacman-dev/2011-October/014589.html] but will force some changes - is it bot-able or do we have to comb the wiki by hand? -- [[User:Karol|Karol]] 14:13, 19 October 2011 (EDT)
-:Uh I see, well, searching [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&redirs=1&search=%22pacman+-Sf%22&fulltext=Search&ns0=1&ns1=1&ns2=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&ns6=1&ns7=1&ns8=1&ns9=1&ns10=1&ns11=1&ns12=1&ns13=1&ns14=1&ns15=1 "pacman -Sf"] and [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&redirs=1&search=%22pacman+-Uf%22&fulltext=Search&ns0=1&ns1=1&ns2=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&ns6=1&ns7=1&ns8=1&ns9=1&ns10=1&ns11=1&ns12=1&ns13=1&ns14=1&ns15=1 "pacman -Uf"] doesn't give many results, however a regexp'd bot search with something like "pacman -[A-Za-z]*f" would catch more complex combinations and also possible existing mistakes. -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 19:23, 19 October 2011 (EDT)
-::[https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/pacman-dev/2012-November/016078.html pacman 4.1] removes the short {{ic|-f}} option. How can I do a regexp'd search? Sometimes a bit more editing will be needed e.g. [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman#Q:_I_installed_software_using_.22make_install.22.3B_these_files_do_not_belong_to_any_package.21]. -- [[User:Karol|Karol]] ([[User talk:Karol|talk]]) 16:09, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
-:::I just fixed every instance of {{ic|pacman -Sf}} I could find via search. I'm guessing there are a lot of special cases that were missed though (e.g. [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Xorg_(%E6%AD%A3%E9%AB%94%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87)&oldid=210122#.E5.AE.89.E8.A3.9D_xorg]).
-:::-- [[User:Jstjohn|Jstjohn]] ([[User talk:Jstjohn|talk]]) 17:39, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 ===ck-launch-session dbus-launch and friends===
-[[Help:Style#Hypertext_metaphor]] taken to extreme: while searching for some hints on the ''exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch yourwm'' thing, I found myself tracking a piece of referenced info that has fallen victim to some daisy-chain mania.
+We can remove every single mention of ck-launch-session on the wiki - consolekit support has been dropped upstream and Arch is going to drop it from all the other packages too. This was also never actually needed, since a session is already started with pam, and you simply needed to keep the session on the same tty.
+Using dbus-launch is usually not needed at all, and should be removed ''almost'' everywhere too.
-[[Fluxbox]] tells you to check [[Xinitrc]]: "[https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fluxbox#Method_2:_.7E.2F.xinitrc See Xinitrc for more details.]" Once there you learn that it has something to do with [[Xinitrc#Policykit|Policykit]] ... or Xfce, as you're told to "See also the notes of Xfce#Manually for more details.". Let's see what's on [[PolicyKit]]'s page first. "Please note: to correct issues with automount and shutdown, please check the ConsoleKit page."" [[ConsoleKit]] was a disappointment for me, seems the princess is in another castle. Let's see that Xfce article mentioned earlier. Indeed, [[Xfce#Manually]] seems to have the most info about the issue, but not by much.
+-- [[User:Thestinger|thestinger]] ([[User talk:Thestinger|talk]]) 18:56, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
+: I decided just to get this right once and for all in [[xinitrc]] with the xinitrc.d snippet to start dbus, and preserving the session by keeping X on the same tty (which works with both logind and ck). It also avoids all the things that can go wrong with ck-launch-session (dbus being started first, for one). [[User:Thestinger|thestinger]] ([[User talk:Thestinger|talk]]) 22:24, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
-Unfortunately we don't have tools to see such "double-redirects" and lacking expertise in this particular issue is definitely a factor. Can someone please untangle this mess? -- [[User:Karol|Karol]] 16:37, 19 October 2011 (EDT)
+:: TODO:
-:Update: When the new polkit package moves from [testing], we can remove every single mention of ck-launch-session on the wiki - consolekit support has been dropped upstream and Arch is going to drop it from all the other packages too. This was also never actually needed, since a session is already started with pam, and you simply needed to keep the session on the same tty.
+::*remove [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&search=ck-launch-session&fulltext=Search ck-launch-session]
+::*remove [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&search=%22dbus-launch%22&fulltext=Search dbus-launch]
-:Using dbus-launch is usually not needed at all, and should be removed ''almost'' everywhere too.
+::*clean up [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=consolekit&fulltext=search pages mention consolekit].
-:[[User:Thestinger|thestinger]] ([[User talk:Thestinger|talk]]) 18:56, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
+::--[[User:Fengchao|Fengchao]] ([[User talk:Fengchao|talk]]) 01:23, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
-::I decided just to get this right once and for all in [[xinitrc]] with the xinitrc.d snippet to start dbus, and preserving the session by keeping X on the same tty (which works with both logind and ck). It also avoids all the things that can go wrong with ck-launch-session (dbus being started first, for one). [[User:Thestinger|thestinger]] ([[User talk:Thestinger|talk]]) 22:24, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
 ===udev update===
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 === MediaWiki Visual Editor ===
 References to the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:VisualEditorSandbox Visual editor sandbox] should me made on the Wiki and BBS, especially where new users will easily come across it. ~ [[User:Filam|Filam]] 16:12, 16 December 2011 (EST)
-=== alsaconf removed from alsa-utils ===
-{{Bug|28631}} There are many mentions of 'alsaconf' in the wiki. I have no idea whether to just remove them or suggest using some other tool instead. -- [[User:Karol|Karol]] 17:16, 8 March 2012 (EST)
-:Interesting, I think most of the mentions are on the out-of-date laptop pages and I'm not too worried about trying to maintain those. [[User:Thestinger|thestinger]] 00:32, 11 April 2012 (EDT)
 === Move/Merge articles to external wikis ===
-Although French<s>, Swedish</s> and Finnish have their own wikis, we're still hosting some articles in those languages:
+Although French and Finnish have their own wikis, we're still hosting some articles in those languages:
 *[https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&search=fran%C3%A7ais&fulltext=Search&ns0=1&ns1=1&ns2=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&ns6=1&ns7=1&ns8=1&ns9=1&ns10=1&ns11=1&ns12=1&ns13=1&ns14=1&ns15=1&redirs=1&profile=advanced French articles]
-*<s>[https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&search=svenska&fulltext=Search&ns0=1&ns1=1&ns2=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&ns6=1&ns7=1&ns8=1&ns9=1&ns10=1&ns11=1&ns12=1&ns13=1&ns14=1&ns15=1&redirs=1&profile=advanced Swedish articles]</s> (all moved now)
 *[https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&search=suomi&fulltext=Search&ns0=1&ns1=1&ns2=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&ns6=1&ns7=1&ns8=1&ns9=1&ns10=1&ns11=1&ns12=1&ns13=1&ns14=1&ns15=1&redirs=1&profile=advanced Finnish articles]
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 -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 16:34, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
-===New dependencies for pacman===
+:Add Serbian articles to the list: [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&search=Српски&fulltext=Search&ns0=1&ns1=1&ns2=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&ns6=1&ns7=1&ns8=1&ns9=1&ns10=1&ns11=1&ns12=1&ns13=1&ns14=1&ns15=1&redirs=1&profile=advanced (Српски)], [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&search=srpski&fulltext=Search&ns0=1&ns1=1&ns2=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&ns6=1&ns7=1&ns8=1&ns9=1&ns10=1&ns11=1&ns12=1&ns13=1&ns14=1&ns15=1&redirs=1&profile=advanced (Srpski)]. -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 15:22, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
-''[moved from [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=ArchWiki_talk:Reports&oldid=203433#New_dependencies_for_pacman] -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 09:30, 2 June 2012 (UTC)]''
+===New dependencies for pacman===
 Some parts of the wiki may need updating, e.g. [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman#Q:_Pacman_is_completely_broken.21_How_do_I_reinstall_it.3F] (the last one in the FAQ). -- [[User:Karol|Karol]] 08:39, 20 January 2012 (EST)
-:<s>This sounds more like a request, I'd move it under [[Requests#pacman_4_in_.5Bcore.5D]], as a subdiscussion, agreed? -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 07:57, 21 January 2012 (EST)</s>
 :There are actually quite a few dependencies that aren't mentioned, since a broken dependency of pacman would also break pacman (can see them all with {{ic|<nowiki>pactree -l pacman | sort -u | cut -f 1 -d ' '</nowiki>}}). The packages that would need to be downloaded and extracted would vary depending on which partial upgrade was done. [[User:Thestinger|thestinger]] 15:19, 21 February 2012 (EST)
@@ Line 132: / Line 101: @@
 :::* {{ic|vmlinuz26}} to {{ic|vmlinuz-linux}}
 :::* {{ic|kernel26.img}} to {{ic|initramfs-linux.img}}
-:::* {{ic|kernel26-fallback.img}} to {{ic|initramfs-linux-fallback.img}}
+:::* <s>{{ic|kernel26-fallback.img}} to {{ic|initramfs-linux-fallback.img}}</s> Done
 :::-- [[User:Fengchao|Fengchao]] ([[User talk:Fengchao|talk]]) 05:40, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
-===  Unified /usr directory ===
-* Clearly document the change under gong for a unified {{ic|/usr}}
-* Add TroubleShooting section about any user intervention needed
 === Clearly warn about pacman force option ===
@@ Line 144: / Line 109: @@
 {{Warning|1=Only use this option when it is recommend in [https://www.archlinux.org/news/ the Arch News]}}
-===systemd is now the default===
+=== Switch initscripts to systemd on all pages ===
+TODO:
+* [[D-Bus]]: Remove or redirect to [[Systemd]]. All [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Special:WhatLinksHere/D-Bus link to it] should be check and cleaned up.
-{{pkg|initscripts}} has been moved to [extra], so systemd is now used on new installs. Pages need to be updated because of this change:
+Now that initscripts no longer are supported, we should change stuff that have information with initscripts to systemd --[[User:Toringe|Toringe]] ([[User talk:Toringe|talk]]) 22:49, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
-* [[Time]] - Done.
+: Agree, all initscripts should be converted to systemd. Many old stuff could be removed safely now. -- [[User:Fengchao|Fengchao]] ([[User talk:Fengchao|talk]]) 01:25, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
-* [[rc.conf]] - Done.
-* [[Arch Linux]] - Done.
--- [[User:Thestinger|thestinger]] ([[User talk:Thestinger|talk]]) 16:20, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
-:I didn't think you would simply remove info related to initscripts e.g. [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Time&diff=231755&oldid=231754]. How are people who are still using initscripts going to check the timezone? -- [[User:Karol|Karol]] ([[User talk:Karol|talk]]) 22:32, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
-:: Maybe we should put old info into [[initscripts]] instead of remove them. -- [[User:Fengchao|Fengchao]] ([[User talk:Fengchao|talk]]) 02:35, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
-:::I agree. The old initscripts info should remain at least until {{pkg|initscripts}} is removed from the official repos.
-:::-- [[User:Jstjohn|Jstjohn]] ([[User talk:Jstjohn|talk]]) 21:53, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
 === polkit rebuild ===
@@ Line 199: / Line 159: @@
 There are [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=openjdk6 many openjdk6 exist in Arch wiki]. All of them should be removed or changed to openjdk7.
-=== <s> Rename gummiboot-efi to gummiboot </s> ===
+=== compiz and emerald got dropped to AUR ===
-Package {{Pkg|gummiboot-efi}} renamed to {{Pkg|gummiboot}}. All old [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=gummiboot-efi+&go=%E6%8F%90%E4%BA%A4 name used] should be fixed.
+https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2013-May/024956.html
-: Done. -- [[User:Fengchao|Fengchao]] ([[User talk:Fengchao|talk]]) 02:32, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
+sysvinit also got removed.
+I've done some updating (just the English articles), so this is more of a heads-up for anyone taking care of non-English articles or people who would like to double check if I missed something / messed something up.
+I don't know if e.g. [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Openbox&diff=258144&oldid=258081 this] or [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Compiz&diff=258133&oldid=257506 this] is the right way to approach a situation where 'foo' package is neither in the AUR nor in the repos, but there may be 'foo-git' or 'foo-no-gnome' in the AUR. It seems to clash with [[ArchWiki:Requests#Use_AUR_templates]]. I've noticed that if there's a 'foo-git' package in the AUR, when 'foo' gets dropped from the repos, no dev / TU uploads 'foo' package to the AUR - makes sense, but makes updating the wiki harder ;P
+I didn't fix [[Emerald]] because I don't know which package in the AUR - if any - represents the 'standard Emerald themes'. The link to {{pkg|emerald}} needs to be updated the sentence rephrased, as it's not in the repos anymore.
+Apart from [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Compiz&diff=258133&oldid=257506 that one edit], I didn't touch [[compiz]], as it needs more extensive editing and I know nothing about <s>it</s> compiz. Sure, I can just remove the parts that are outdated (e.g. referring to the removed package groups) but maybe someone can do a nicer rewrite.
+List of recently removed packages / package groups:
+{{bc|
+ccsm
+compiz-bcop
+compiz-core
+compiz-decorator-gtk
+compiz-decorator-kde
+compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
+compiz-fusion-plugins-main
+compiz-manager
+compizconfig-backend-gconf
+compizconfig-python
+emerald
+emerald-themes
+fusion-icon
+libcompizconfig
+mingetty
+proftpd
+slmodem
+sysvinit
+bmp
+epiphany-extensions
+mkbootcd
+python-m2crypto}}
+-- [[User:Karol|Karol]] ([[User talk:Karol|talk]]) 22:53, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
+=== libgl and libgl-dri are no more ===
+Quite a few articles mention these packages. I think that instead of libgl they should point to mesa-libgl or nvidia-libgl. libgl-dri is not provided by any package. -- [[User:Karol|Karol]] ([[User talk:Karol|talk]]) 12:47, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 ==Bot requests==
@@ Line 209: / Line 206: @@
 ===Moving pages===
 Can we have a bot that will move non-English pages and fix i18n links when the English page gets moved/renamed? SSH -> Secure Shell and Cpufrequtils -> CPU Frequency Scaling and the recent examples. -- [[User:Karol|Karol]] 10:47, 8 September 2011 (EDT)
-===Updating templates===
-It would be really useful if a bot would crawl the entire wiki and update the old templates to the new ones. Just doing a search and replace of {{ic|<nowiki>{{Filename|</nowiki>}} to {{ic|<nowiki>{{ic|</nowiki>}} would be amazing. The templates that I believe should be able to safely be converted are the following:
-* [[Template:Codeline]] -> [[Template:ic]]
-* [[Template:Filename]] -> [[Template:ic]]
-* [[Template:Package Official]] -> [[Template:Pkg]]
-* [[Template:Package AUR]] -> [[Template:AUR]]
-* <s>[[Template:File]] -> [[Template:hc]] (this is a bit more complicated because of the {{ic|<nowiki>name=</nowiki>}} and {{ic|<nowiki>content=</nowiki>}} parts from [[Template:File]].</s>
-The above templates are the most widely used, so just replacing them would be a godsend. [[Template:Cli]] and [[Template:Command]] could probably be handled manually. :P
-Additionally, it would probably be safe to batch convert {{ic|<nowiki><pre></nowiki>}} to {{ic|<nowiki>{{bc|<nowiki></nowiki>}} and {{ic|<nowiki></pre></nowiki>}} to {{ic|<nowiki></nowi.ki>}}</nowiki>}}, and similarly for <nowiki><code> and <tt></nowiki> being changed to [[Template:ic]]. -- [[User:Jstjohn|Jstjohn]] 15:54, 10 December 2011 (EST)
-:If you're interested I've created a GreaseMonkey script, [[Wiki Monkey]], which I've been using quite successfully in the last weeks. Currently it just replaces the templates and removes multiple line breaks, but it could do much much more. If you have some knowledge of javascript and regular expressions you may also contribute to the project and create new user functions! :) -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 08:47, 11 December 2011 (EST)
-:I started on the basic conversions (where stuff already redirects). A GreaseMonkey script would definitely be better than pywikipediabot when stuff might require intervention (there's a horrible tkinter editor that pywikipediabot uses...). [[User:Thestinger|thestinger]] 11:39, 11 December 2011 (EST)
-::I'd like to spend some more words on Wiki Monkey, to try and attract some contributors, because I'm sure that despite the need for some development work at the beginning, it has the potential to alleviate wiki maintenance efforts quite a lot in the future: the main script is a greasemonkey file which just requires (includes from "upstream", i.e. my github repo) the most up-to-date version of the "core" script, which in turn provides a high-level API which can then be used to write quite simple JS functions to perform automatic actions in the wiki. User functions can be created separately and just "required" in the main script in the same way the "core" script is required.
-::But there's more: GreaseMonkey provides some functions that let store some values '''persistently''' throughout page changes or reloads, so, by exploiting that feature, it may be possible to make the script perform real bot operations by making it collect lists of articles and perform a series of actions on them automatically or even semi-automatically, which means it would be perfectly able to show the user a preview '''in the browser''' for every action to be taken.
-::All this can be implemented with some Javascript and MediaWiki API knowledge.
-::-- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 16:30, 12 December 2011 (EST)
-:::I've struck the reference to [[Template:File]] in the list above because the named arguments are '''not''' the main problem for its conversion! The biggest problem is the fact that File is based on &lt;div>, &lt;code> and &lt;pre>, while Hc is based only on &lt;pre>, and this can make the internal string to be processed differently by MediaWiki.
-:::Also note that Wiki Monkey now handles the named argument translation quite smartly.
-:::Finally, a link to the place where this discussion was started: [[Help talk:Style/Migration_to_new_Code_formatting_templates#Migration strategy]].
-:::-- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 08:39, 18 December 2011 (EST)