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''Here, list requests for repetitive, systemic modifications to a series of existing articles to be performed by a wiki bot.''
 
''Here, list requests for repetitive, systemic modifications to a series of existing articles to be performed by a wiki bot.''
  
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Can we have a bot that will move non-English pages and fix i18n links when the English page gets moved/renamed? SSH -> Secure Shell and Cpufrequtils -> CPU Frequency Scaling and the recent examples. -- [[User:Karol|Karol]] 10:47, 8 September 2011 (EDT)
 
Can we have a bot that will move non-English pages and fix i18n links when the English page gets moved/renamed? SSH -> Secure Shell and Cpufrequtils -> CPU Frequency Scaling and the recent examples. -- [[User:Karol|Karol]] 10:47, 8 September 2011 (EDT)
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:Well, this request is old and surpassed by some radical changes to our internationalization system, so I'm closing it.
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:The problem could still be relevant, and technically developing a bot function for that would be possible, but probably it wouldn't be worth the effort, as English titles are often out of place in any case for other languages (though still '''required''' as per [[Help:i18n]]), and [[Help talk:i18n#Language namespace(s) in place of suffixes?]] and a subsequent liberalization of title translations would make it useless.
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Is the wiki missing documentation for a popular software package or coverage of an important topic? Or, is existing content in need of correction, updating, or expansion? Write your requests below and share your ideas...

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Need to fix template or change to new template.
Full links
Should be turned into internal links.

Problem redirects

Note: Redirects should not point to other sites and ones that do sometimes erroneously show up on these pages.

Creation requests

Here, list requests for topics that you think should be covered on ArchWiki. If not obvious, explain why ArchWiki coverage is justified (rather than existing Wikipedia articles or other documentation). Furthermore, please consider researching and creating the initial article yourself (see Help:Editing for content creation help).

HOWTO: SAMBA PDC + LDAP

How to configure SAMBA PDC + LDAP in Arch Linux? (Moved from another page. Hokstein 19:57, 16 September 2007 (EDT))

Tripwire

Finding information on the install of this program already requires a bit of searching around the net, and then a variety of modifications to get it running correctly. It would be nice to have a good HowTo about the install and setup of Tripwire on Arch. The package is availabe in community.

It has since been removed from [community], it's in the AUR now. -- Karol 21:52, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

Left-Handed Adjustments for Desktop Environments

I was thinking it would be helpful for lefties if there were a list of configuration options for each desktop environment that facilitate left-handed use of mice and touchpads. I'm not sure if this is related enough to Arch to include in this wiki, but I haven't had a lot of luck finding information for my own DE (KDE) let alone for others. I will start writing down information, and if no one else thinks there should be a separate page for this, I'll just add the information I find to each individual DE's page. —ajrl 2013-08-11T15:09−06:00

I think a separate page is better. -- Fengchao (talk) 11:58, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Bugzilla

It would be nice if there was a page documenting Bugzilla installation. The package is in [community], but I'm about to install it and wishing I knew potential caveats.

Modification requests

Here, list requests for correction or other modification of existing articles. Only systemic modifications that affect multiple articles should be included here. If a specific page needs modification, use that page's discussion or talk page instead and one of the #General requests templates.

As a rolling release, Arch is constantly receiving updates and improvements. Because of this the Arch wiki must be updated quickly to reflect these changes.

wireless_tools -> iw

In addition to the net-tools deprecated, commands like iwconfig and iwlist are deprecated too. These should be updated to the appropriate iw commands. The one problem with this is that iw output is sometimes much more verbose.

  • iwconfig -> iw
    • iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc --> iw wlan0 set type ibss
  • iwlist wlan0 scan -> iw dev wlan0 scan

thestinger (talk) 07:06, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Before doing this, I want some one familiar with recent wireless development to confirm if those command can be directly replaced. I did remember that years ago many wireless do not support iw command. -- Fengchao (talk) 14:12, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
I've created a table of equivalent commands in Wireless Setup#Manual setup, so far only commands for connecting to WEP encrypted network don't have an iw equivalent - according to iw --help, it should be iw wlan0 connect your_essid key 0:your_key for an ASCII key and iw wlan0 connect your_essid key d:1:your_key for a hexadecimal key, but I can't test it. Also many other commands could be added to the table. -- Lahwaacz (talk) 00:00, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
As I said before on the talkpage, I think you have done an awesome rework on the whole page the last days! I have done slight changes to above wep commands. Please see the page for details. --Indigo (talk) 13:48, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
I see two "0:your_key" in the table. Typo? -- Fengchao (talk) 13:35, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
No, hex/ascii is alike. That '0' is the keyslot. Explained briefly later: [1] --Indigo (talk) 17:54, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

DeveloperWiki

Many pages are out of date and I can't even flag them out of date. Should users be warned that pages in this "category" may be really old and abandoned? -- Karol 09:19, 8 October 2011 (EDT)

Perhaps we can create a special template to be included at the top of every article in that category? -- Kynikos 13:41, 8 October 2011 (EDT)

ck-launch-session dbus-launch and friends

We can remove every single mention of ck-launch-session on the wiki - consolekit support has been dropped upstream and Arch is going to drop it from all the other packages too. This was also never actually needed, since a session is already started with pam, and you simply needed to keep the session on the same tty. Using dbus-launch is usually not needed at all, and should be removed almost everywhere too. -- thestinger (talk) 18:56, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I decided just to get this right once and for all in xinitrc with the xinitrc.d snippet to start dbus, and preserving the session by keeping X on the same tty (which works with both logind and ck). It also avoids all the things that can go wrong with ck-launch-session (dbus being started first, for one). thestinger (talk) 22:24, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
TODO:
--Fengchao (talk) 01:23, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

MediaWiki Visual Editor

References to the Visual editor sandbox should me made on the Wiki and BBS, especially where new users will easily come across it. ~ Filam 16:12, 16 December 2011 (EST)

Move/Merge articles to external wikis

Although Finnish and Serbian have their own wikis, we're still hosting some articles in those languages:

Some users of those wikis should probably be contacted in order to complete the move/merge, replacing those articles with interlanguage links at least on the respective English pages.

-- Kynikos (talk) 16:34, 10 May 2012 (UTC) (Last edit: 03:04, 22 September 2013 (UTC))

New dependencies for pacman

Some parts of the wiki may need updating, e.g. [2] (the last one in the FAQ). -- Karol 08:39, 20 January 2012 (EST)

There are actually quite a few dependencies that aren't mentioned, since a broken dependency of pacman would also break pacman (can see them all with pactree -l pacman | sort -u | cut -f 1 -d ' '). The packages that would need to be downloaded and extracted would vary depending on which partial upgrade was done. thestinger 15:19, 21 February 2012 (EST)

vmlinuz26

Instead of flagging all articles still using the old kernel image naming out of date, can we do some mass-renaming? -- Karol 20:55, 20 October 2011 (EDT)

Last week, I found at one article that was using vmlinuz26 in an example for users of non-recent kernel versions. I'm not sure if we would want to keep such an example around, but we may want to decide that before doing a mass rename. And for what it's worth, I don't think it is necessary to keep such antiquated examples around. -- Jstjohn (talk) 20:53, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
Of course I don't know what article you're referring to, but doing a mass-renaming with a bot sounds a bit dangerous, because as you've pointed out there may be exceptions where the old kernel names are still ok. I'm moving this discussion out of Bot requests. -- Kynikos (talk) 14:57, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
The rename is done very long time ago. I am stating to do the following except few places as mentined above.
  • vmlinuz26 to vmlinuz-linux
  • kernel26.img to initramfs-linux.img
  • kernel26-fallback.img to initramfs-linux-fallback.img Done
-- Fengchao (talk) 05:40, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Clearly warn about pacman force option

In pacman page, the FAQ mentioned pacman -S --force when "file exists in filesystem" without warning clearly that --force may break the system. The pacman#Usage should clearly prevent users from using this option. Maybe something like:

Warning: Only use this option when it is recommend in the Arch News

Switch initscripts to systemd on all pages

TODO:

Now that initscripts no longer are supported, we should change stuff that have information with initscripts to systemd --Toringe (talk) 22:49, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Agree, all initscripts should be converted to systemd. Many old stuff could be removed safely now. -- Fengchao (talk) 01:25, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

polkit rebuild

ConsoleKit support has now been fully dropped from all packages in the repositories. There is no need for ck-launch-session and friends after this moves.

Please use link to General Troubleshooting#Session permissions to replace anything mentioning ck-launch-session, dbus-launch, problems with consolekit/logind, etc.

-- thestinger (talk) 04:40, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

virtualbox-iso-additions & Co. package name changes

I guess virtualbox-iso-additions is now called virtualbox-guest-iso. There are other changes (virtualbox-modules -> virtualbox-host-modules, virtualbox-source -> virtualbox-host-source) but the old names are not used in English articles. There may be some other changes (new names, changes to how things work), I only edited that one thing because I know nothing about virtualbox. If no more edits are needed, feel free to close this request. -- Karol (talk) 08:58, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Inconsistent block size value for dd command

There are many examples of the dd command on the ArchWiki and they use various values for the block size option. There seems to be a lot of confusion about what value to use. This is exemplified by the Using DD for disk cloning question on Server Fault. I have also collected a few examples from the ArchWiki (see: User:Filam/Block size#Disparate examples). In order to make these examples more consistent I would like to either write Block size or Dd. Then any examples could be replaced by references like the Package management style rules. What do you think of that plan? ~ Filam (talk) 19:45, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Can you give a more explicit example? For instance, how would you change this extract from User-mode_Linux#build_rootfs_image:
1.) First you have to create a single, big file into which you will install Arch Linux. This command creates a single 1 GB file, only containing zeros - should be enough for a basic Arch Linux installation.
dd if=/dev/zero of=rootfs bs=1MB count=1000
-- Kynikos (talk) 12:36, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Mkinitcpio hooks update

Search for "pata scsi sata" there are many results. Need to change them to block. See Mkinitcpio#Common hooks. -- Fengchao (talk) 06:32, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Done on English pages. -- Lahwaacz (talk) 21:28, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Remaining pages are marked as out of date or for translation as a whole, so let's close this. -- Lahwaacz (talk) 00:00, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Move openjdk6 to jdk7-openjdk

Developer annourcement: OpenJDK6 packages will be removed by the end of this month.

All users should move to OpenJDK7 based packages jre7-openjdk/jre7-openjdk-headless/jdk7-openjdk (or the Oracle based JRE/JDK from AUR) very soon.

The next OpenJDK7 update will replace openjdk6 on the system.

There are many openjdk6 exist in Arch wiki. All of them should be removed or changed to openjdk7.

compiz and emerald got dropped to AUR

https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2013-May/024956.html

sysvinit also got removed.

I've done some updating (just the English articles), so this is more of a heads-up for anyone taking care of non-English articles or people who would like to double check if I missed something / messed something up. I don't know if e.g. this or this is the right way to approach a situation where 'foo' package is neither in the AUR nor in the repos, but there may be 'foo-git' or 'foo-no-gnome' in the AUR. It seems to clash with ArchWiki:Requests#Use_AUR_templates. I've noticed that if there's a 'foo-git' package in the AUR, when 'foo' gets dropped from the repos, no dev / TU uploads 'foo' package to the AUR - makes sense, but makes updating the wiki harder ;P

I didn't fix Emerald because I don't know which package in the AUR - if any - represents the 'standard Emerald themes'. The link to emerald needs to be updated the sentence rephrased, as it's not in the repos anymore.

Apart from that one edit, I didn't touch compiz, as it needs more extensive editing and I know nothing about it compiz. Sure, I can just remove the parts that are outdated (e.g. referring to the removed package groups) but maybe someone can do a nicer rewrite.

List of recently removed packages / package groups:

ccsm
compiz-bcop
compiz-core
compiz-decorator-gtk
compiz-decorator-kde
compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
compiz-fusion-plugins-main
compiz-manager
compizconfig-backend-gconf
compizconfig-python
emerald
emerald-themes
fusion-icon
libcompizconfig
mingetty
proftpd
slmodem
sysvinit
bmp
epiphany-extensions
mkbootcd
python-m2crypto

-- Karol (talk) 22:53, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

libgl and libgl-dri are no more

Quite a few articles mention these packages. I think that instead of libgl they should point to mesa-libgl or nvidia-libgl. libgl-dri is not provided by any package. -- Karol (talk) 12:47, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Automatic loading of kernel modules

There are notes like "Since kernel 3.4 all necessary modules are loaded automatically" and "Newer versions of udev load the module automatically", which are usually followed by rather long section "If that does not work, do modprobe foo" and "To make it permanent after reboot, add the following to /etc/modules-load.d/module.conf".

Examples: Kernel_modules#Configuration, CPU_Frequency_Scaling, CPU_Frequency_Scaling#CPU_frequency_driver, Network_Configuration#Check_the_driver_status, Wireless_Setup#Device_driver.

There are several problems with this, so quick list of tasks:

-- Lahwaacz (talk) 19:09, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

ARM is gone

[3] Do we remove the info altogether or add a note / warning that it's gone? -- Karol (talk) 14:43, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Maybe just add notes (not warnings) or out-of-date templates for the moment, also to let the bad news spread out (and maybe encourage somebody to take over the project? ;P ). If there's nothing good on telly, you may even take the time to list the links to the pages that mention ARM below here. -- Kynikos (talk) 10:38, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
I hope they pick a name that doesn't collide with a popular cpu architecture ;P
English articles that need attention (no hardware articles, no talk pages and no user pages are listed here):
-- Karol (talk) 12:10, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Well done Karol! Let's leave this open for a while, when this will have become old news it will be easier to find and just delete those parts. -- Kynikos (talk) 13:01, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

[4] is not exactly true - archlinuxcn provides their version of ARM too. -- Karol (talk) 10:26, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

I think you can safely add that to the article (and fix tej typo please :P ) It may also be worth to update the other articles that you listed above, where applicable. -- Kynikos (talk) 03:26, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Deprecation of /etc/sysctl.conf

this list needs clean up. Instead of just rename the file to 99-sysctl.conf, split the file by function is much better. -- Fengchao (talk) 13:15, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

+1, also the link to sysctl#Configuration should be provided for details about the file naming. -- Lahwaacz (talk) 13:46, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Mention UEFI boot loaders in the overview

The short overview in Category:Boot_loaders does not mention UEFI and boot loaders with UEFI support. I can't think of any reasonable alternative, suggestions are welcome. -- Lahwaacz (talk) 23:35, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Any reasonable alternative would probably be too short to justify the existence of Template:Boot process overview, or too long to make it too obtrusive. Maybe we should just replace Template:Boot process overview with simple related links to Boot Loaders, Arch Boot Process, ...
We may even consider doing the same with all the other overview templates, and perhaps even take the chance to abolish article summaries once and for all as discussed in Help talk:Style/Article summary templates.
-- Kynikos (talk) 08:33, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Bot requests

Here, list requests for repetitive, systemic modifications to a series of existing articles to be performed by a wiki bot.

Moving pages

Can we have a bot that will move non-English pages and fix i18n links when the English page gets moved/renamed? SSH -> Secure Shell and Cpufrequtils -> CPU Frequency Scaling and the recent examples. -- Karol 10:47, 8 September 2011 (EDT)

Well, this request is old and surpassed by some radical changes to our internationalization system, so I'm closing it.
The problem could still be relevant, and technically developing a bot function for that would be possible, but probably it wouldn't be worth the effort, as English titles are often out of place in any case for other languages (though still required as per Help:i18n), and Help talk:i18n#Language namespace(s) in place of suffixes? and a subsequent liberalization of title translations would make it useless.
-- Kynikos (talk) 08:49, 7 November 2013 (UTC)