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== <s>RAID 5</s> ==
I'd like to add an install guide for installation to USB key /boot and RAID5 /root.  How can I go about doing that?
I'd be happy to create a page and send the link to someone for linking into the general "How To" area.
Thanks! {{Unsigned|20:10, 2 September 2009‎|TomB17}}
== Checksums/Windows ==
== Checksums/Windows ==

Revision as of 15:49, 17 March 2018


We removed checksums with [1]; concerning the last argument, it seems you can use powershell for checksums on Windows, see Fedora Installation. A possible candidate for the See also section, then again Fedora uses a different signing mechanism (the CHECKSUM file is signed, instead of the ISO). -- Alad (talk) 08:31, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Um yeah, at Fedora they sign the checksums, so that powershell "script" isn't gonna work for us, hence linking to it from See also wouldn't be very helpful for a Windows user. The script shouldn't be hard to adapt though, it should be enough to tell to replace "$expected_checksum" with a paste of the checksum from our download page, also changing the function to either MD5 or SHA1 because we don't provide the SHA256 currently. I don't know if it's worth to expand Category:Getting and installing Arch#Verify signature in this direction. — Kynikos (talk) 08:36, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Alternatively, we could link to gpg4win and (for OSX) gpgtools -- Alad (talk) 21:35, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

MBR+EFI multi boot

Under the section "Installation methods", there are some useful notes intended for new arch linux users. I'd like to add :

If you opt for a multi boot installation using MBR partition table but your PC is UEFI-enabled, remember to boot the USB live in legacy mode to prevent issues with the bootloader.

As suggested, this note may be too specific and belongs to Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface, still I think it's better to add it in this category anyway, since other notes concern how to boot the live usb properly and are useful for newbies (plus, that reminder would have personally saved me some hard times trying to get a bootloader properly working and Installation_guide wasn't helpful to find proper documentation). I strongly recommend to specify it in non-specialized wiki. You got any suggestion to make this reminder more appropriate? Lo1 (talk) 13:59, 2 October 2017 (UTC)lo1

What is the bootloader that you talk about? Maybe the info belongs on its page. -- Lahwaacz (talk) 14:13, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
I'm talking about GRUB which, as you can see, assumes your system is already well installed and functional for you to install a bootloader. However, I guess it's possible that this doesn't concern every grub installation, hence scarsity of documentation. Lo1 (talk) 15:01, 2 October 2017 (UTC)lo1
The GRUB#UEFI_systems already contains this note: "When installing to use UEFI it is important to start the install with your machine in UEFI mode. The Arch Linux install media must be UEFI bootable." which is very related to your problem. Considering that GRUB is the only boot loader that supports both BIOS and UEFI systems, I'd say that info really does not belong anywhere else.
Anyway, what exactly do you mean by "multi boot installation"?
-- Lahwaacz (talk) 15:12, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
Right about that, just it doesn't explain that actually pressing a few buttons before getting started may prevent real headaches. I wrote about it in the forum [2]. By "multi boot" i meant dual boot, sorry for my poor writing. Editing after some time, the reason i wanted to add that note is not intended for those who want to install using UEFI, but for those who may consider the option to use a MBR even if their machine has a UEFI firmware. Lo1 (talk) 15:21, 2 October 2017 (UTC)lo1
Still, please consider improving the GRUB page instead of adding the note here. -- Lahwaacz (talk) 18:33, 25 October 2017 (UTC)