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Discussion or "talk" pages are for communicating with other ArchWiki users. To discuss any page, go to that page and then click the "discussion" tab at the top of the page. Experiment by editing the [[Talk:Sandbox|talk page of the Sandbox]].
  
== From [[Help:Editing]] ==
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== Start new discussion ==
Discussion or "talk" pages are for communicating with other ArchWiki users.
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Add new discussions at the bottom of discussion pages and with a proper heading. You can also make use of the {{ic|+}} tag at the top of each discussion page. If the discussion page does not exist yet, just create it. Discussion pages should not be categorized.
  
To discuss any page, go to that page and then click the "discussion" tab at the top of the page. Add a new comment at the end of the page or reply below an existing comment. Use [[#Indenting|indenting]] to format your discussion. Standard practice is to indent your reply one more level deep than the person to whom you are replying. Further, you should insert your comment beneath the one to which you are replying, but below others who are doing the same.
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Talk page is used for discussion. So '''do not''':
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* Adding edit Summary. There is an edit summary line in edit page for these information. See [[Help:Style#Edit summary]].
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* Asking for help. Use [https://bbs.archlinux.org/ forums] or [[IRC Channel]] for this kind of request.
  
Sign comments by typing {{ic|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>}} to insert your username and a timestamp. Avoid editing another user's comments.
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== Join a discussion ==
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* Add a new comment at the end of the page or reply below an existing comment.
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* Use colons to [[Help:Editing#Indenting|indent]]  and  format your discussion. Standard practice is to indent your reply one more level deep than the person to whom you are replying.  Further, you should insert your comment beneath the one to which you are replying, but below others who are doing the same.
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* Sign comments by typing {{ic|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>}} to insert your username and a timestamp. Avoid editing another user's comments.
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* Do not edit your posts if somebody has already replied, otherwise you will break the flow of the discussion and make it difficult for others to further respond. Only striking (using {{Ic|<nowiki><s></nowiki>}} tags) words or sentences is allowed, but the related explanation should be given in a regular reply.
  
Experiment by editing the [[Talk:Sandbox|talk page of the Sandbox]].
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== Close discussions ==
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You should take care to strike the header of exhausted discussions using {{Ic|<nowiki><s></nowiki>}} tags.  
  
===User talk pages===
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Exhausted discussions will be deleted a while after striking.
Note the difference between a user page, and a user talk page.  Everyone may have a user talk page on which other people can leave public messages. If one does not exist for a particular user, you may create it so that you can leave a comment. If someone has left you a message on yours, you will see a note saying "You have new messages" with a link to your own user talk page: in this case you are supposed to reply on your own talk page ''beneath'' the original message with appropriate indentation. Please avoid replying to a discussion on a different talk page, for example the one of the user who contacted you, since such a style of communication creates disconnects with the flow of information regarding the subject at hand.
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Do not edit a user's own page without permission (i.e. ''<nowiki>[[User:Name]]</nowiki>''); these serve as personal user spaces. The "user ''talk'' page" is the correct place for communicating (other than sending private email if the address is published).
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An explanation is not mandatory in talk pages, where the ''why'' should be already evident. <br> When deleting exhausted discussions, however, some explanation words are required (e.g. "closed discussion," "fixed," etc.) and including also the title of the discussion could help retrieving it in the history in case it needs to be reopened.
  
==From [[Help:Style]]==
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== User talk pages ==
*Add new discussions at the bottom of discussion pages and with a proper heading. You can also make use of the {{ic|+}} tag at the top of each discussion page.
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Note the difference between a user page, and a user talk page. Everyone may have a user talk page on which other people can leave public messages. If one does not exist for a particular user, you may create it so that you can leave a comment. If someone has left you a message on yours, you will see a note saying "You have new messages" with a link to your own user talk page: in this case you are supposed to reply on your own talk page ''beneath'' the original message with appropriate indentation. Please avoid replying to a discussion on a different talk page, for example the one of the user who contacted you, since such a style of communication creates disconnects with the flow of information regarding the subject at hand.
*Indent your answers using colons at the beginning of new lines.
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*Do not edit your posts if somebody has already replied, otherwise you will break the flow of the discussion and make it difficult for others to further respond. Only striking (using {{Ic|<nowiki><s></nowiki>}} tags) words or sentences is allowed, but the related explanation should be given in a regular reply.
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*Always append a signature ({{ic|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>}}) to your edits.
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*Discussion pages should not be categorized.
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*You should take care to strike the header of exhausted discussions using {{Ic|<nowiki><s></nowiki>}} tags. <br> Exhausted discussions will be deleted a while after striking.
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*See also [[Help:Editing#Discussion pages]].
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An explanation is not mandatory in talk pages, where the ''why'' should be already evident. <br> When deleting exhausted discussions, however, some explanation words are required (e.g. "closed discussion," "fixed," etc.) and including also the title of the discussion could help retrieving it in the history in case it needs to be reopened.
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Do not edit a user's own page without permission (i.e. ''<nowiki>[[User:Name]]</nowiki>''); these serve as personal user spaces. The "user ''talk'' page" is the correct place for communicating (other than sending private email if the address is published).

Revision as of 00:54, 19 May 2013

Discussion or "talk" pages are for communicating with other ArchWiki users. To discuss any page, go to that page and then click the "discussion" tab at the top of the page. Experiment by editing the talk page of the Sandbox.

Start new discussion

Add new discussions at the bottom of discussion pages and with a proper heading. You can also make use of the + tag at the top of each discussion page. If the discussion page does not exist yet, just create it. Discussion pages should not be categorized.

Talk page is used for discussion. So do not:

Join a discussion

  • Add a new comment at the end of the page or reply below an existing comment.
  • Use colons to indent and format your discussion. Standard practice is to indent your reply one more level deep than the person to whom you are replying. Further, you should insert your comment beneath the one to which you are replying, but below others who are doing the same.
  • Sign comments by typing ~~~~ to insert your username and a timestamp. Avoid editing another user's comments.
  • Do not edit your posts if somebody has already replied, otherwise you will break the flow of the discussion and make it difficult for others to further respond. Only striking (using <s> tags) words or sentences is allowed, but the related explanation should be given in a regular reply.

Close discussions

You should take care to strike the header of exhausted discussions using <s> tags.

Exhausted discussions will be deleted a while after striking.

An explanation is not mandatory in talk pages, where the why should be already evident.
When deleting exhausted discussions, however, some explanation words are required (e.g. "closed discussion," "fixed," etc.) and including also the title of the discussion could help retrieving it in the history in case it needs to be reopened.

User talk pages

Note the difference between a user page, and a user talk page. Everyone may have a user talk page on which other people can leave public messages. If one does not exist for a particular user, you may create it so that you can leave a comment. If someone has left you a message on yours, you will see a note saying "You have new messages" with a link to your own user talk page: in this case you are supposed to reply on your own talk page beneath the original message with appropriate indentation. Please avoid replying to a discussion on a different talk page, for example the one of the user who contacted you, since such a style of communication creates disconnects with the flow of information regarding the subject at hand.

Do not edit a user's own page without permission (i.e. [[User:Name]]); these serve as personal user spaces. The "user talk page" is the correct place for communicating (other than sending private email if the address is published).