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== Notes on major overhaul ==
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Hm, I didn't know there was a behind-the-scene page we could discuss this. I had already mentioned some points on the forums I wasn't sure about when I did the major overhaul and update. I will also list them here so other people that don't use the forum can see it (plus my post it already amongst dozens of older ones in the ATI Grill)
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* Xorg example file; is it needed? And if it is, most entries are uncommented and I think we should at least provide some information on the options if we decide to keep it.
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* Installing from AMD. Should we even instruct this? It's absolutely unrecommended and I for one don't know if the instructions are correct.
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Thanks for working on this article everyone!
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[[User:Unia|Unia]] 00:29, 14 October 2012 (Amsterdam)
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== <s> Thanks </s> ==
 
I love you guys for putting this wiki entry together and maintaining the repositories with the Catalyst driver and the patched mplayer with support for hardware acceleration. It would have taken me many, many hours to make it work as flawlessly as it does.
 
I love you guys for putting this wiki entry together and maintaining the repositories with the Catalyst driver and the patched mplayer with support for hardware acceleration. It would have taken me many, many hours to make it work as flawlessly as it does.
  
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[[User:4javier|4javier]] 07:50, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
 
[[User:4javier|4javier]] 07:50, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
  
== Update '[[Catalyst#Unofficial_repositories]]' installation instructions ==
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== HD 6870 ==
  
It appears to me that these instructions are incoherent.
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I think the problems with Radeon HD 6870 are outdated, I use that graphics card and I didn't have any problems at all, even OpenCL works fine. -- [[User:Lykos42|Lykos42]] 14:04, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
For example, the heading '[[Catalyst#Xorg-server_repositories]]' (correctly) states that xorg-server 1.10 is the last line supported by catalyst at the moment, while the heading '[[Catalyst#.5Bcatalyst.5D_repository]]' doesn't mention this clearly. The installation instructions also don't reflect the current steps needed to successfully install catalyst.
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:Added [[Template:Accuracy]], please next time don't be afraid of adding status templates by yourself :) -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 07:59, 15 March 2012 (EDT)
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I cannot speak for speak for the HD 6870 but I can confirm that the problem still exists for the E-350 (APU with a HD 6310), and that the posted solution works if the device name is changed (and perhaps without changing it, I didn't test). I have therfore removed the disputed banner and generalized the answer. (As is suspect the fix works for virtually any "unsupported" device). If someone could confirm the naming scheme for the Xorg identifier I would appreciate it. --[[User:Eric Vuhl|Eric Vuhl]] ([[User talk:Eric Vuhl|talk]]) 12:19, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
  
My suggestion is to change the text under the heading '[[Catalyst#.5Bcatalyst.5D_repository]]' as follows:
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== Compatibility table ==
  
'There is a repository called [catalyst] which contains newest stable catalyst driver and some additional packages<s> like a patched xorg-server</s>. This repository should always work with the stock kernel from [core] and it is updated most frequently. The catalyst driver currently requires xorg-server<1.11.0 though.
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I've been thinking for a while it might be nice to have a compatibility table or something to see which version of Catalyst works with which versions of X and the Linux kernel. Would this be totally off? Is there a better place to see this information? Would there be a better place to store this information? --[[User:Freso|Freso]] ([[User talk:Freso|talk]]) 11:01, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
  
To use it you need:
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1.) Edit /etc/pacman.conf and add those lines above all other repositories (above [core] and [extra]:
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[xorg110]
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I'm not sure for the need of this, why would people want to use an older version? AFAIK there are no major problems with Catalyst 12.9 nor with Catalyst-legacy. For those two, the information is already there:
Server = http://catalyst.apocalypsus.net/repo/xorg110/$arch
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[catalyst]
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Server = http://catalyst.apocalypsus.net/repo/catalyst/$arch
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--[[User:Turris|Turris]] 08:29, 5 November 2011 (EDT)
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1. Users with Radeon HD {2,3,4}xxx can only use catalyst-legacy which supports Xorg <= 1.12 (use [xorg112] repo)
:Done, thanks. --[[User:Vi0L0|Vi0L0]] 12:56, 5 November 2011 (EDT)
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2. Users with Radeon HD => 5xxx should use catalyst which supports Xorg 1.13
  
::No problem. What about
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Of course, the more info the better, so if you want to add this feel free to do so! ==[[User:Unia|Unia]]
[xorg110]
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Server = http://catalyst.apocalypsus.net/repo/xorg110/$arch
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[catalyst]
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Server = http://catalyst.apocalypsus.net/repo/catalyst/$arch
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::though?
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== vaapi with smplayer ==
  
The "unofficial repository" instructions seem to be creeping up to the main Installation header, and it is not clear what applies where. The whole of the article needs to remain neutral in tone, and allow the reader decide which method to use.  I separated Installation and Configuration as I thought the various methods had common ground when editing *.conf files... [[User:T1nk3r3r|T1nk3r3r]] 04:50, 19 December 2011 (EST)
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I found smplayer config to use mplayer-vaapi not right.
:I've also reworded both the intro to this article and to [[ATI]], to make them look more coherent with each other. -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 06:22, 20 December 2011 (EST)
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If you set Video output Driver to vaapi or vaapi:gl, you'll not need to add extra options -vo vaapi to mplayer options
::I feel that the Overviews are too long-winded and would benefit from a separate Introduction after reviewing wiki standards.  The placement of a link to AUR creates the illusion that there is no other place to find the official driver, and implies bias.  And references solely to ATI create confusion as AMD is phasing out the ATI brand, retaining only colors and logo templates. My biggest complaint is blatant reference to subsections under the main Installation header, promoting bias toward a method. This is a wiki page, it should be written as such. [[User:T1nk3r3r|T1nk3r3r]] 12:17, 20 December 2011 (EST)  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Help:Editing#Tone.2C_layout.2C_and_style
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Mplayer won't work if both -lavadopts and -vo vaapi are set.
:::Well, I concur with your observations: as you've written, "this is a wiki page", so if you have a good plan for reorganizing this article (and also [[ATI]]?) you can go and apply it, just make sure you comply with the [[Help:Style|style rules]], especially explaining your edits well in the edit Summary and trying to split your changes in as many edits as possible :) -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 11:36, 21 December 2011 (EST)
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So we need to turn off -lavadopts option (useful when decode by CPU, but usesless with GPU) by set "Threads for decoding" to 1 in Performance section.
 
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Therefore I decided to edit wiki section about using smplayer. Hope this will be useful for someone!
== HD 6870 ==
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I think the problems with Radeon HD 6870 are outdated, I use that graphics card and I didn't have any problems at all, even OpenCL works fine. -- [[User:Lykos42|Lykos42]] 14:04, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
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:Added [[Template:Accuracy]], please next time don't be afraid of adding status templates by yourself :) -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 07:59, 15 March 2012 (EDT)
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I cannot speak for speak for the HD 6870 but I can confirm that the problem still exists for the E-350 (APU with a HD 6310), and that the posted solution works if the device name is changed (and perhaps without changing it, I didn't test). I have therfore removed the disputed banner and generalized the answer. (As is suspect the fix works for virtually any "unsupported" device). If someone could confirm the naming scheme for the Xorg identifier I would appreciate it. --[[User:Eric Vuhl|Eric Vuhl]] ([[User talk:Eric Vuhl|talk]]) 12:19, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
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Revision as of 02:58, 25 November 2012

Notes on major overhaul

Hm, I didn't know there was a behind-the-scene page we could discuss this. I had already mentioned some points on the forums I wasn't sure about when I did the major overhaul and update. I will also list them here so other people that don't use the forum can see it (plus my post it already amongst dozens of older ones in the ATI Grill)

  • Xorg example file; is it needed? And if it is, most entries are uncommented and I think we should at least provide some information on the options if we decide to keep it.
  • Installing from AMD. Should we even instruct this? It's absolutely unrecommended and I for one don't know if the instructions are correct.

Thanks for working on this article everyone!

Unia 00:29, 14 October 2012 (Amsterdam)

Thanks

I love you guys for putting this wiki entry together and maintaining the repositories with the Catalyst driver and the patched mplayer with support for hardware acceleration. It would have taken me many, many hours to make it work as flawlessly as it does.

Foutrelis 06:11, 21 June 2010 (EDT)

XvBA-Video Repository

Note to editors: DO NOT REMOVE that since it works and helps users getting it working!


Why keep it around if the information is obsolete now?

Foutrelis 15:35, 18 August 2010 (EDT)

deleted note on nomodeset warning

the nomodeset option si mandatory using catalyst, cause this driver doesn't support kms. The note is useless. 4javier 07:50, 25 April 2011 (EDT)

HD 6870

I think the problems with Radeon HD 6870 are outdated, I use that graphics card and I didn't have any problems at all, even OpenCL works fine. -- Lykos42 14:04, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

Added Template:Accuracy, please next time don't be afraid of adding status templates by yourself :) -- Kynikos 07:59, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

I cannot speak for speak for the HD 6870 but I can confirm that the problem still exists for the E-350 (APU with a HD 6310), and that the posted solution works if the device name is changed (and perhaps without changing it, I didn't test). I have therfore removed the disputed banner and generalized the answer. (As is suspect the fix works for virtually any "unsupported" device). If someone could confirm the naming scheme for the Xorg identifier I would appreciate it. --Eric Vuhl (talk) 12:19, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Compatibility table

I've been thinking for a while it might be nice to have a compatibility table or something to see which version of Catalyst works with which versions of X and the Linux kernel. Would this be totally off? Is there a better place to see this information? Would there be a better place to store this information? --Freso (talk) 11:01, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

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I'm not sure for the need of this, why would people want to use an older version? AFAIK there are no major problems with Catalyst 12.9 nor with Catalyst-legacy. For those two, the information is already there:

1. Users with Radeon HD {2,3,4}xxx can only use catalyst-legacy which supports Xorg <= 1.12 (use [xorg112] repo) 2. Users with Radeon HD => 5xxx should use catalyst which supports Xorg 1.13

Of course, the more info the better, so if you want to add this feel free to do so! ==Unia

vaapi with smplayer

I found smplayer config to use mplayer-vaapi not right. If you set Video output Driver to vaapi or vaapi:gl, you'll not need to add extra options -vo vaapi to mplayer options Mplayer won't work if both -lavadopts and -vo vaapi are set. So we need to turn off -lavadopts option (useful when decode by CPU, but usesless with GPU) by set "Threads for decoding" to 1 in Performance section. Therefore I decided to edit wiki section about using smplayer. Hope this will be useful for someone!