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==Comments==
 
* What encoding (ascii ? UTF-8 ?) should be used for text files in submitted packages ? --[[User:Airbag|Airbag]] 13:43, 15 August 2006 (PDT)
 
 
 
==Suggestions==
 
==Suggestions==
* Shouldn't we suggest using SHA1 hash and not the already broken one (MD5)? [[User:Tomato|Tomato]] 15:47, 25 August 2010 (EDT)
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Shouldn't we suggest using SHA1 hash and not the already broken one (MD5)? --[[User:Tomato|Tomato]] 15:47, 25 August 2010 (EDT)
* The section about custom variables ("_blah=blah") is misleading. Nowadays custom variables are a common practice since they can simplify and/or modularize the PKGBUILD a great deal. The parts where they are recommended to not to be used should be modified. --[[User:Det|Det]] 13:13, 14 September 2010 (EDT)
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* Please change "Arch CVS & SVN PKGBUILD guidelines" in "CVS/SVN Packages" to reflect linked page new name "VCS PKGBUILD Guidelines". Also "CVS/SVN Packages" section name could be renamed to reflect new VCSes to "VCS Packages" or user friendlier "SVN/GIT/HG Packages" (CVS out of interest). --[[User:Vojtech|Vojtech]] 12:53, 9 February 2011 (EST)
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:My packages contain both {{ic|md5sums}} and {{ic|sha256sums}} arrays. I do so on the theory that some clients may not have the sha256sum utility installed, and those clients can fall back to the md5sum utility. Clarification would be appreciated. [[User:Ichimonji10|Ichimonji10]] ([[User talk:Ichimonji10|talk]]) 14:32, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
  
==Proposed revision (shouldn't this already be added...?)==
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I've recently found that packages that used bundles libraries tend to segfault. Should we suggest the removal of bundled libraries and instead use system libraries? --[[User:Gadget3000|Gadget3000]] ([[User_talk:Gadget3000|talk]]) 02:13, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
  
====Package Etiquette====
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Some packages require the addition of system users. For them to be ignored by things such as lightdm, tthey have to be in the sub-1000 UID space. Looking at packages in ABS, these users are simply added with an <tt>useradd -u ...</tt>. However, there is no guideline or authoritative list that I can find which lists which UID is used for what, which is free, or how to register a UID for a specific system user. It would be nice to see a section about it here. --[[User:OlivierMehani|OlivierMehani]] 19:31, 13 October 2011 (EDT)
  
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:See [[DeveloperWiki:UID_/_GID_Database]].
  
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:I thinks it's a bit too specific to be listed here. --[[User:Snowman|Snowman]] 20:45, 13 October 2011 (EDT)
file, or alternatively by exporting the PACKAGER environment variable before building packages with makepkg:
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<b>$</b> export PACKAGER="John Doe@<b>email</b>"
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====Architectures====
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How about adding [[Web_application_package_guidelines]] to the list? --[[User:Trontonic|Trontonic]] 11:18, 29 February 2012 (EST)
  
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depending on which architectures it can be built on. <s>You can also use</s> <b>State</b> 'any' for architecture independent packages.
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Something more should be said about .install files.  Mention that there are also examples in {{ic|/usr/share/pacman}} but it also needs some explanation on how they work. --[[User:Mauro2|Mauro2]] ([[User_talk:Mauro2|talk]]) 05:30, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
  
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====Licenses====
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Please remove the {{ic|cd "$srcdir..."}} no-op from the examples on the page.  See: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/34314 --[[User:Graysky|Graysky]] ([[User talk:Graysky|talk]]) 20:55, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
  
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{{ic|makepkg -g}} has been superseded by {{ic|updpkgsums}} since [http://allanmcrae.com/2013/04/pacman-4-1-released/ pacman 4.1], which doesn't require redirection operators ({{ic|>>}}) or removing the earlier md5sums (with something like {{ic|sed -i "/md5sums/,/)/d" PKGBUILD}}). --[[User:Det|Det]] ([[User talk:Det|talk]]) 12:16, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
  
*Add 'custom' to the licenses array. Optionally, <s>you can</s> replace 'custom' with 'custom:"name of license"'.
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:I second Det's request: add this to the wiki. {{ic|updpkgsums}} is nicer than {{ic|makepkg -g}}, and the existence of such a tool should be promulgated. I didn't even know about the tool until reading through this discussion page. [[User:Ichimonji10|Ichimonji10]] ([[User talk:Ichimonji10|talk]]) 14:32, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
  
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When pacman gets the ability to filter on licenses (<b>i.e., make pacman download only GPL and BSD licensed software"</b>) dual (or more) licenses will be treated by pacman using ''''or'''', rather than ''''and'''' logic, thus pacman will consider ...
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[[Arch_Packaging_Standards#Package_etiquette]] states: "It is common practice to preserve the order of the PKGBUILD fields as shown above." But this is not true. Common practice is to use {{ic|/usr/share/pacman/PKGBUILD.proto}} as a template, and the order of fields in that prototype has a far greater influence on packages in the wild than this page. This page should edited to reflect the current state of {{ic|PKGBUILD.proto}}. Perhaps this page should state: "It is common practice to order PKGBUILD fields so they match the order of fields in {{ic|PKGBUILD.proto}}. [[User:Ichimonji10|Ichimonji10]] ([[User talk:Ichimonji10|talk]]) 14:32, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
  
====Submitting Packages to the AUR====
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== /usr/sbin -> /usr/bin merge ==
  
<s>The submitted PKGBUILDs MUST NOT build applications already in any of the official binary repositories under any circumstances. Exception to this strict rule may only be packages having extra features enabled and/or patches in compare to the official ones. In such an occasion the pkgname array should be different to express that difference.</s> <i>This gets repeated word for word in [[#Packaging Standards]]</i>
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The Directories section needs to be updated to reflect the recent /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin -> /usr/bin merge:
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* The /usr/sbin line should be removed and the description of the /usr/bin line should be changed to all binaries or something similar.  
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* /bin and /sbin should be added to the "Package should not contain following directories" list.
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[[User:Kyrias|Kyrias]] ([[User talk:Kyrias|talk]]) 15:00, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
  
- I see no problem in repeating it here as regularly there are users not following that rule. [[User:Snowman|Snowman]]
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== Punctuation in PKGBUILD ==
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What is the official guidance regarding ending a pkgdesc in a period or using commas and English prose punctuation in general?
  
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[[https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1288063 Link]] to discussion thread.
  
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[[User:Graysky|Graysky]] ([[User talk:Graysky|talk]]) 15:17, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
  
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== There should be a clearly visible link to "Creating packages" page ==
To ensure the security of pkgs submitted to the AUR please ensure that <b>the md5sum values</b> have <b>been</b> correctly filled.  The md5sum's can b...
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===Additional Guidelines===
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Please, move the block located in the bottom of this page to its top. [[User:Eigrad|Andrew Grigorev]] ([[User talk:Eigrad|talk]]) 19:21, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Be sure to read the above guidelines first'''--''' important points are listed on this page that will not be repeated in the following guideline pages...
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Revision as of 14:09, 20 October 2013

Suggestions

Shouldn't we suggest using SHA1 hash and not the already broken one (MD5)? --Tomato 15:47, 25 August 2010 (EDT)

My packages contain both md5sums and sha256sums arrays. I do so on the theory that some clients may not have the sha256sum utility installed, and those clients can fall back to the md5sum utility. Clarification would be appreciated. Ichimonji10 (talk) 14:32, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

I've recently found that packages that used bundles libraries tend to segfault. Should we suggest the removal of bundled libraries and instead use system libraries? --Gadget3000 (talk) 02:13, 6 August 2011 (UTC)


Some packages require the addition of system users. For them to be ignored by things such as lightdm, tthey have to be in the sub-1000 UID space. Looking at packages in ABS, these users are simply added with an useradd -u .... However, there is no guideline or authoritative list that I can find which lists which UID is used for what, which is free, or how to register a UID for a specific system user. It would be nice to see a section about it here. --OlivierMehani 19:31, 13 October 2011 (EDT)

See DeveloperWiki:UID_/_GID_Database.
I thinks it's a bit too specific to be listed here. --Snowman 20:45, 13 October 2011 (EDT)

How about adding Web_application_package_guidelines to the list? --Trontonic 11:18, 29 February 2012 (EST)


Something more should be said about .install files. Mention that there are also examples in /usr/share/pacman but it also needs some explanation on how they work. --Mauro2 (talk) 05:30, 15 October 2012 (UTC)


Please remove the cd "$srcdir..." no-op from the examples on the page. See: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/34314 --Graysky (talk) 20:55, 14 March 2013 (UTC)


makepkg -g has been superseded by updpkgsums since pacman 4.1, which doesn't require redirection operators (>>) or removing the earlier md5sums (with something like sed -i "/md5sums/,/)/d" PKGBUILD). --Det (talk) 12:16, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

I second Det's request: add this to the wiki. updpkgsums is nicer than makepkg -g, and the existence of such a tool should be promulgated. I didn't even know about the tool until reading through this discussion page. Ichimonji10 (talk) 14:32, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Arch_Packaging_Standards#Package_etiquette states: "It is common practice to preserve the order of the PKGBUILD fields as shown above." But this is not true. Common practice is to use /usr/share/pacman/PKGBUILD.proto as a template, and the order of fields in that prototype has a far greater influence on packages in the wild than this page. This page should edited to reflect the current state of PKGBUILD.proto. Perhaps this page should state: "It is common practice to order PKGBUILD fields so they match the order of fields in PKGBUILD.proto. Ichimonji10 (talk) 14:32, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

/usr/sbin -> /usr/bin merge

The Directories section needs to be updated to reflect the recent /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin -> /usr/bin merge:

  • The /usr/sbin line should be removed and the description of the /usr/bin line should be changed to all binaries or something similar.
  • /bin and /sbin should be added to the "Package should not contain following directories" list.

Kyrias (talk) 15:00, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Punctuation in PKGBUILD

What is the official guidance regarding ending a pkgdesc in a period or using commas and English prose punctuation in general?

[Link] to discussion thread.

Graysky (talk) 15:17, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

There should be a clearly visible link to "Creating packages" page

Please, move the block located in the bottom of this page to its top. Andrew Grigorev (talk) 19:21, 17 July 2013 (UTC)