Talk:Beginners' guide

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Thanks. Misfit138 15:23, 22 October 2009 (EDT)


Actual experience

The following is my experience for following this guide through, until the very end where I have LXDE set up. I used the 2009.08 core iso to install.

  1. The section 2.9.1 states that we will be prompted for configuring initramfs. This is not true anymore. System Configuration will simply present us with the menu listing all the config files for us to select and edit. The first being /etc/rc.conf. Maybe merge the info in this section into 2.9.4 (/etc/mkinitcpio.conf)?
  2. In 2.9.3 (fstab), my initial fstab does not use UUIDs for my disks, it uses /dev/sda1, /dev/sdb1, etc. directly. Perhaps mention (for beginner's sake) that we could do '/sbin/blkid >> /etc/fstab' to get the UUIDs into the file for easy edits?
  3. In 3.5 (install sudo), doing 'pacman -S sudo vim' at that stage will result in the 'vim: /usr/bin/rview exists in filesystem' error and pacman exits without installation. Maybe mention that we can simply 'rm /usr/bin/{view,rview}' before pacman? (Reference:
  4. In (perform the X test), we can in fact just type 'exit' in xterm to shut down X and return to our prompt.
  5. In 5.3.4 (LXDE), we must also install garmin, which will ask to remove FAM. Else when we enter LXDE, an error message will pop up asking us to make sure one of the two is running.
  6. Note: I did not read any wireless sections, as I don't need it (and I have dhcp upstream). Also, I have not progressed into the Appendix.

Apart from the above, this guide is perfect! Everything works as written. (Except the 2009.08-netinstall has a faulty version of pacman and will segfault during package downloads. That's why I used the core iso, but this will be a non-issue when the next iso is out.) Claestw 21:22, 24 October 2009 (EDT)

About 2.9.3 - /etc/fstab

  • I think the possibility of using tmpfs for /tmp should at least be mentioned and possibly even encouraged.
  • Only the noatime option is mentioned, what about its big brother nodiratime and its safer cousin relatime ? Maybe a note about that in the Arch installer-generated /etc/fstab would be good too. See for details.

Changaco 08:13, 25 October 2009 (EDT)

Add group scanner to group list

  • I think it would be good to add this group in the useradd part of the guide, as it is one that would be commonly needed. Kyo 11:07, 27 October 2009 (EDT)


I would add the inittab method not only as a note on the kde guide, but also gnome and the others as it's generally preferred. Kyo 11:22, 30 October 2009 (EDT)

I disagree. Adding a login manager to rc.conf is simpler and more in line with the the other configuration steps that you are going through during your first time install.
I agree with ^. manolo 10:49, 13 November 2009 (EST)

/boot on primary partition

There were a couple of forum threads were people couldn't boot because /boot wasn't on a primary partition. I suggest to recommend putting /boot on a primary partition, with a disclaimer that it is not necessary if you know what you are doing. Explaining when it would not be necessary would be tool complicated at this point.

Clarifying 2.9.10 (pacman mirrorlist)

Specifying the pacman mirror list is slightly confusing. There are two files that show up in the list to edit (pacman.conf and mirrorlist). All the other files are given explicitly with more detail than setting up the mirror list.

Changing the mirrorlist at install time does not make sense. That is best done after the install. Setting up the mirrorslist, is explained in Mirrors with a section/link in Post Installation Tips#Mirrors. -- M l 11:07, 25 November 2009 (EST)

The Don't Panic Section

This section needs to be expanded so as to explain why we shouldn't panic and how not to. It appears to need a more encouraging tone and a clear reasoning, otherwise the whole point of the title and the words used won't make any sense to a lot of readers. - KitchM 14:23, 30 November 2009 (EST)

UNIX-like overdo

UNIX-like has 8 mentions in the whole article--this is a little too much. Also, UNIX isn't a technical term, so it does not need the <tt> tags. Time 04:07, 6 December 2009 (EST)