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:In any case, any deletion policy should only be considered (to put it lightly; here it was apparently already decided and "deprecated" by an individual party) when all backlinks have been updated. This is not the case here, there's over 200 pages still referencing this template. As such, I've removed the template.
 
:In any case, any deletion policy should only be considered (to put it lightly; here it was apparently already decided and "deprecated" by an individual party) when all backlinks have been updated. This is not the case here, there's over 200 pages still referencing this template. As such, I've removed the template.
 
:We can still discuss if alternatives pose an improvement over the current situation of [[Edit]]. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 14:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:We can still discuss if alternatives pose an improvement over the current situation of [[Edit]]. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 14:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
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::I removed some redirects recently (e.g. [[The Arch boot process]], [[Networkmanager-0.7]] or [[Boot Loaders]]) which were unused, had no history and resulted in confusing or useless results on the search page (which is not sorted and does not allow to filter out redirects). There are more of these listed in [[ArchWiki_talk:Maintenance_Team#Removing_unnecessary_redirects_/_pages]], but I don't feel like removing all of them, especially the various grammatical forms are often useful to people who don't know about the "[[mw:Help:Links#Internal_links|word-ending links]]".
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::I might be convinced that this redirect should be avoided, deprecated and removed, but there has to be a clear alternative (like [[systemctl edit]]?) proposed in its place. In case Larivact planned to make this a disambiguation page, it should be discussed whether it would still be allowed to be linked to or it should be left out only for search results - see [[Category_talk:Disambiguation_pages#Introduction]].
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::-- [[User:Lahwaacz|Lahwaacz]] ([[User talk:Lahwaacz|talk]]) 18:52, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

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Deletion

Regarding the proposal to delete this redirect, I understand that many things can be "edited", hence perhaps the feeling of ambiguity, but by convention this redirect was chosen to be used to specifically refer to systemd units: in what way would deleting it and replacing all its backlinks with (lengthy) direct links to the target section be an improvement over the current situation?

Recently I've seen several redirects marked for deletion (with Template:Remove), but I don't recall seeing a discussion to elaborate a consistent deletion policy for redirects (please correct me if I'm wrong). With the premise that in general redirects are harmless unless they are added with malicions intentions (e.g. spam), should we agree on a general rule?

-- Kynikos (talk) 11:55, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

I believe the only thing we've agreed on so far is to archive templates by replacing the colon with a semicolon, e.g. Template;Wikipedia. I believe categories are still removed as usual. For redirects, this has come up in the past and most of us agreed (if I recall correctly) that there's indeed little motivation to remove existing redirects.
In any case, any deletion policy should only be considered (to put it lightly; here it was apparently already decided and "deprecated" by an individual party) when all backlinks have been updated. This is not the case here, there's over 200 pages still referencing this template. As such, I've removed the template.
We can still discuss if alternatives pose an improvement over the current situation of Edit. -- Alad (talk) 14:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
I removed some redirects recently (e.g. The Arch boot process, Networkmanager-0.7 or Boot Loaders) which were unused, had no history and resulted in confusing or useless results on the search page (which is not sorted and does not allow to filter out redirects). There are more of these listed in ArchWiki_talk:Maintenance_Team#Removing_unnecessary_redirects_/_pages, but I don't feel like removing all of them, especially the various grammatical forms are often useful to people who don't know about the "word-ending links".
I might be convinced that this redirect should be avoided, deprecated and removed, but there has to be a clear alternative (like systemctl edit?) proposed in its place. In case Larivact planned to make this a disambiguation page, it should be discussed whether it would still be allowed to be linked to or it should be left out only for search results - see Category_talk:Disambiguation_pages#Introduction.
-- Lahwaacz (talk) 18:52, 13 November 2018 (UTC)