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== Suggestions ==
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== Page history and purpose ==
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This page was constructed from information previously available in [[Post Installation Tips]] and [[Beginners' Guide Appendix]]. See [[Talk:Post Installation Tips#Duplication of effort (merge?)]] for details.
  
=== Considerations before further commits ===
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The intended style is that of an "index" of popular or otherwise frequently-sought information. This page should contain no real "content", but rather short introductions/descriptions of a problem/application followed by a suitable wiki link for interested parties.
''My coments were edited to unclutter the talk page.'' [[User:Pwd|pwd]] 13:42, 23 December 2009 (EST)
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To keep content in the main articles/maintain this page as a neat link repository:
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*[[#grep]], [[#ls]] and most of [[#Console improvements]] can go in a ''Basic Commands'' article.
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I copied most of this content (that I'm now asking to move) before realizing that the merger has more opportunities for improvement. Seeing that it's a major departure from [[Post Installation Tips]]/[[Beginners' Guide Appendix]], I bring this up before changing too much. Thoughts? [[User:Pwd|pwd]] 23:57, 19 December 2009 (EST)
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:Completely agree on all points. I especially liked your idea of a [[coreutils]] or [[Core Utilities]] article, though I don't believe "grep" and "diff" are included in the coreutils package. Do you think enough could be said about "grep" to warrant a separate article?
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That said, please keep headings alphabetical.
  
:My plan of attack was to begin merging sections that are already covered in separate articles, then focus on splitting and merging remaining sections -- but, as they say, there's more than one way to skin a cat. Ideally though, this article should contain absolutely no real "content" (in my opinion). Even the "LILO" tip I'd like to split, despite it being a single line of text.
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-- [[User:Pointone|pointone]] 20:03, 11 January 2010 (EST)
 
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:I'm not sure what should happen to the "Recommended reading" section. Perhaps it can be converted into a preface or similar...
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:-- [[User:Pointone|pointone]] 12:44, 20 December 2009 (EST)
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::Alright, I'm thinking ''Core Utilities'' is so far the best out of the proposals. As you mentioned, coreutils doesn't include grep/others and would otherwise be a needless limitation. A title like ''Basic Commands''  feels out of place with coloring tips, etc.
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::Ignoring the title for the moment, I'm thinking of moving:
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::to ''Core Utilities'':
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::*<s>[[Post Installation Tips#Colorize the Output of 'ls']]</s>
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::*<s>[[Post Installation Tips#Colorize the Output of 'grep']]</s>
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::*<s>[[Post Installation Tips#Timesaving Command-Aliases]]</s>
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::*[[Post Installation Tips#Useful Commands & Programs]]
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::*[[Post Installation Tips#Extracting Compressed Files]]
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::*<s>[[Post Installation Tips#Using 'less' for Browsing Compressed Files]]</s>
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::The rest of the content is less problematic (AUR, makepkg, etc.), since they're already present in their main articles. [[User:Pwd|pwd]] 16:16, 20 December 2009 (EST)
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:::I'll take this opportunity to mention that a [[How to use a mouse in the console]] ([[GPM]] redirects) article already exists. Otherwise, I concur with your list.
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:::Which other boot-related articles are you considering? I think [[Arch Boot Process]] is a suitable candidate for the "retaining" section (though [[Disable clearing of boot messages]] already exists!)
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:::-- [[User:Pointone|pointone]] 23:15, 20 December 2009 (EST)
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== Comments ==
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Doing layout first is a nice idea... good thinking.
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--[[User:Gen2ly|Gen2ly]] 14:16, 19 December 2009 (EST)
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===Hardware auto recognition/udev===
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[[User:Pointone|pointone]], good call on updating this to today's reality. hwdetect and its kin really aren't noteworthy any more. [[User:Pwd|pwd]] 13:42, 23 December 2009 (EST)
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Revision as of 10:00, 4 November 2012

Page history and purpose

This page was constructed from information previously available in Post Installation Tips and Beginners' Guide Appendix. See Talk:Post Installation Tips#Duplication of effort (merge?) for details.

The intended style is that of an "index" of popular or otherwise frequently-sought information. This page should contain no real "content", but rather short introductions/descriptions of a problem/application followed by a suitable wiki link for interested parties.

That said, please keep headings alphabetical.

-- pointone 20:03, 11 January 2010 (EST)