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=== Considerations before further commits ===
 
=== Considerations before further commits ===
 
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:''My coments were edited to unclutter the talk page.'' [[User:Pwd|pwd]] 13:42, 23 December 2009 (EST)
 
To keep content in the main articles/maintain this page as a neat link repository:
 
To keep content in the main articles/maintain this page as a neat link repository:
*<s>[[#Emacs shell]] should belong in [[Emacs]]</s>
 
 
*[[#grep]], [[#ls]] and most of [[#Console improvements]] can go in a ''Basic Commands'' article.
 
*[[#grep]], [[#ls]] and most of [[#Console improvements]] can go in a ''Basic Commands'' article.
*<s>Other Bash content should be moved to [[Bash]]</s>
 
<small>All of these ^ become links</small><br>
 
 
Structure-wise:
 
Structure-wise:
*Keep notices such as "''[[yaourt]] or another [[AUR helper]]''" in [[#Recommended reading]]
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*Keep notices such as "''install with [[yaourt]]''" in [[#Preface]]
 
I copied most of this content (that I'm now asking to move) before realizing that the merger has more opportunities for improvement. Seeing that it's a major departure from [[Post Installation Tips]]/[[Beginners' Guide Appendix]], I bring this up before changing too much. Thoughts? [[User:Pwd|pwd]] 23:57, 19 December 2009 (EST)
 
I copied most of this content (that I'm now asking to move) before realizing that the merger has more opportunities for improvement. Seeing that it's a major departure from [[Post Installation Tips]]/[[Beginners' Guide Appendix]], I bring this up before changing too much. Thoughts? [[User:Pwd|pwd]] 23:57, 19 December 2009 (EST)
  
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::*[[Post Installation Tips#Extracting Compressed Files]]
 
::*[[Post Installation Tips#Extracting Compressed Files]]
 
::*[[Post Installation Tips#Using 'less' for Browsing Compressed Files]]
 
::*[[Post Installation Tips#Using 'less' for Browsing Compressed Files]]
::*<s>[[Post Installation Tips#Enabling Console Mouse Support (gpm)]]</s>
 
::to [[Bash]]:
 
::*<s>[[Post Installation Tips#Fast Bash Completion]]</s>
 
::to [[pacman Tips]]:
 
::*i<s>[[Post Installation Tips#Pacman]]</s> <small>(really good alias potential)</small>
 
::Potentially big changes:
 
::*<s>[[General Recommendations#Retaining boot messages]] to [[Arch Boot Process]]</s>
 
 
::The rest of the content is less problematic (AUR, makepkg, etc.), since they're already present in their main articles. [[User:Pwd|pwd]] 16:16, 20 December 2009 (EST)
 
::The rest of the content is less problematic (AUR, makepkg, etc.), since they're already present in their main articles. [[User:Pwd|pwd]] 16:16, 20 December 2009 (EST)
  
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:::-- [[User:Pointone|pointone]] 23:15, 20 December 2009 (EST)
 
:::-- [[User:Pointone|pointone]] 23:15, 20 December 2009 (EST)
 
::::For now, I'll merge <s>[[General Recommendations#Retaining boot messages]]</s> with [[Disable clearing of boot messages]] and leave discussion about integrating it with [[Arch Boot Process]] for later.
 
::::And <s>[[Post Installation Tips#Enabling Console Mouse Support (gpm)]]</s> to [[GPM]]... [[User:Pwd|pwd]] 23:21, 20 December 2009 (EST)
 
  
 
== Comments ==
 
== Comments ==
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--[[User:Gen2ly|Gen2ly]] 14:16, 19 December 2009 (EST)
 
--[[User:Gen2ly|Gen2ly]] 14:16, 19 December 2009 (EST)
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[[User:Pointone|pointone]], good call on updating this to today's reality. hwdetect and its kin really isn't noteworthy any more. [[User:Pwd|pwd]] 13:42, 23 December 2009 (EST)

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Suggestions

Considerations before further commits

My coments were edited to unclutter the talk page. pwd 13:42, 23 December 2009 (EST)

To keep content in the main articles/maintain this page as a neat link repository:

Structure-wise:

I copied most of this content (that I'm now asking to move) before realizing that the merger has more opportunities for improvement. Seeing that it's a major departure from Post Installation Tips/Beginners' Guide Appendix, I bring this up before changing too much. Thoughts? pwd 23:57, 19 December 2009 (EST)

Completely agree on all points. I especially liked your idea of a coreutils or Core Utilities article, though I don't believe "grep" and "diff" are included in the coreutils package. Do you think enough could be said about "grep" to warrant a separate article?
My plan of attack was to begin merging sections that are already covered in separate articles, then focus on splitting and merging remaining sections -- but, as they say, there's more than one way to skin a cat. Ideally though, this article should contain absolutely no real "content" (in my opinion). Even the "LILO" tip I'd like to split, despite it being a single line of text.
I'm not sure what should happen to the "Recommended reading" section. Perhaps it can be converted into a preface or similar...
-- pointone 12:44, 20 December 2009 (EST)
Alright, I'm thinking Core Utilities is so far the best out of the proposals. As you mentioned, coreutils doesn't include grep/others and would otherwise be a needless limitation. A title like Basic Commands feels out of place with coloring tips, etc.
Ignoring the title for the moment, I'm thinking of moving:
to Core Utilities:
The rest of the content is less problematic (AUR, makepkg, etc.), since they're already present in their main articles. pwd 16:16, 20 December 2009 (EST)
I'll take this opportunity to mention that a How to use a mouse in the console (GPM redirects) article already exists. Otherwise, I concur with your list.
Which other boot-related articles are you considering? I think Arch Boot Process is a suitable candidate for the "retaining" section (though Disable clearing of boot messages already exists!)
-- pointone 23:15, 20 December 2009 (EST)

Comments

Doing layout first is a nice idea... good thinking.

--Gen2ly 14:16, 19 December 2009 (EST)

Hardware auto recognition/udev

pointone, good call on updating this to today's reality. hwdetect and its kin really isn't noteworthy any more. pwd 13:42, 23 December 2009 (EST)