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== Suggestions ==
 
== Suggestions ==
  
=== Considerations before further commits ===
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===HAL redundancy===
''My coments were edited to unclutter the talk page.'' [[User:Pwd|pwd]] 13:42, 23 December 2009 (EST)
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''Restored from old inline talk''<br> [[User:Dres|Dres]] 22:19, 15 January 2010 (EST)
To keep content in the main articles/maintain this page as a neat link repository:
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I personally don't see the correlation between installing a de/wm and hal's functionality. Yes, it is required by Xorg, but this is not the reason given for its setup. pwd 04:09, 26 December 2009 (EST)
*[[#grep]], [[#ls]] and most of [[#Console improvements]] can go in a ''Basic Commands'' article.
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I copied most of this content (that I'm now asking to move) before realizing that the merger has more opportunities for improvement. Seeing that it's a major departure from [[Post Installation Tips]]/[[Beginners' Guide Appendix]], I bring this up before changing too much. Thoughts? [[User:Pwd|pwd]] 23:57, 19 December 2009 (EST)
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:Completely agree on all points. I especially liked your idea of a [[coreutils]] or [[Core Utilities]] article, though I don't believe "grep" and "diff" are included in the coreutils package. Do you think enough could be said about "grep" to warrant a separate article?
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And which should take precedence; this or #Hardware auto-recognition? pwd 05:11, 26 December 2009 (EST)
 
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:My plan of attack was to begin merging sections that are already covered in separate articles, then focus on splitting and merging remaining sections -- but, as they say, there's more than one way to skin a cat. Ideally though, this article should contain absolutely no real "content" (in my opinion). Even the "LILO" tip I'd like to split, despite it being a single line of text.
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:I'm not sure what should happen to the "Recommended reading" section. Perhaps it can be converted into a preface or similar...
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:-- [[User:Pointone|pointone]] 12:44, 20 December 2009 (EST)
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::Alright, I'm thinking ''Core Utilities'' is so far the best out of the proposals. As you mentioned, coreutils doesn't include grep/others and would otherwise be a needless limitation. A title like ''Basic Commands''  feels out of place with coloring tips, etc.
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::Ignoring the title for the moment, I'm thinking of moving:
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::to ''Core Utilities'':
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::*<s>[[Post Installation Tips#Colorize the Output of 'ls']]</s>
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::*<s>[[Post Installation Tips#Colorize the Output of 'grep']]</s>
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::*<s>[[Post Installation Tips#Timesaving Command-Aliases]]</s>
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::*[[Post Installation Tips#Useful Commands & Programs]]
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::*[[Post Installation Tips#Extracting Compressed Files]]
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::*<s>[[Post Installation Tips#Using 'less' for Browsing Compressed Files]]</s>
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::The rest of the content is less problematic (AUR, makepkg, etc.), since they're already present in their main articles. [[User:Pwd|pwd]] 16:16, 20 December 2009 (EST)
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:::I'll take this opportunity to mention that a [[How to use a mouse in the console]] ([[GPM]] redirects) article already exists. Otherwise, I concur with your list.
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:::Which other boot-related articles are you considering? I think [[Arch Boot Process]] is a suitable candidate for the "retaining" section (though [[Disable clearing of boot messages]] already exists!)
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:::-- [[User:Pointone|pointone]] 23:15, 20 December 2009 (EST)
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== Comments ==
 
== Comments ==

Revision as of 03:19, 16 January 2010

This page is currently under construction. The final result will be a merged Post Installation Tips and Beginners' Guide Appendix. See Talk:Post Installation Tips#Duplication of effort (merge?) for details.

The intended style is that of an "index" of popular or otherwise frequently-sought information. This page should contain no real "content", but rather short introductions/descriptions of a problem/application followed by a suitable wiki link for interested parties.

-- pointone 20:03, 11 January 2010 (EST)

Suggestions

HAL redundancy

Restored from old inline talk
Dres 22:19, 15 January 2010 (EST) I personally don't see the correlation between installing a de/wm and hal's functionality. Yes, it is required by Xorg, but this is not the reason given for its setup. pwd 04:09, 26 December 2009 (EST)

And which should take precedence; this or #Hardware auto-recognition? pwd 05:11, 26 December 2009 (EST)

Comments

Doing layout first is a nice idea... good thinking.

--Gen2ly 14:16, 19 December 2009 (EST)

Hardware auto recognition/udev

pointone, good call on updating this to today's reality. hwdetect and its kin really aren't noteworthy any more. pwd 13:42, 23 December 2009 (EST)