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i still prefere to install arch in the classic way, with a standalone (grub) boot partition, after installation,
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== GPT-centric ==
copy all on a backup disk, format /,/home etc into btrfs format, then copy back :)
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Extofme, cool, thanks! [[User:Eigrad|Eigrad]] 08:35, 25 November 2010 (EST)
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Why does this article make it seem as if GPT disks are the only option? btrfs is fine on MBR disks. In fact the entire section on GPT partitioning is generic and entirely irrelevant to using btrfs for root. The section should merely point to gpt or mbr partitioning pages.
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: Yes, the partition part should be merged out. -- [[User:Fengchao|Fengchao]] ([[User talk:Fengchao|talk]]) 00:44, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
  
== booting btrfs with grub2 ==
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== Loop method not explained. ==
  
the current grub2 version works, as far as i can tell, nicely with root on btrfs, even if boot is on it and inside the root subvolume.
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The page says...
So the article could be simplyfied i guess.--[[User:Ctx|Ctx]] 09:10, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
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:I'm not into btrfs but the article seems to make use of syslinux/extlinux at the moment: you could add the grub2 way as an alternative (maybe preferred alternative?). -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 08:05, 13 October 2011 (EDT)
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::Hello everyone, I am going to begin writing the grub2-bios directions for running from a btrfs root partition using grub2-bios, subvolumes, and gpt. I think showing how to use btrfs with grub2 is important and it took me days to figure it out. --[[User:Demizer|Demizer]] 01:01, 18 February 2012 (EST)
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== Rewrote article and added grub2 info. ==
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"Warning: If you need swap support, either make a partition, or use the loop method detailed below. DO NOT simply use a swap file! Doing so will corrupt your btrfs filesystem."
  
Hey guys and gals, I finished the rewrite adding info for GRUB2 installations and restoring from a backup. I will go back and do more edits after my brain has been given a chance to relax. Please note that I completely rewrote the article and added a lot of sections. The previous sections on syslinux didn't work for me when I tried to use it, so I spent three days researching the method to install btrfs, gpt, and grub2. So basically, the syslinux info is out of date and I don't want to go learn about syslinux to fix it. Thanks! --[[User:Demizer|Demizer]] 20:10, 18 February 2012 (EST)
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However the loop method is not detailed below.
  
Syslinux and btrfs, works. I have tried two different configurations on two differents PCs and both work. One used pure btrfs root, the other used a separate boot partition. I think its time to remove the unconfirmed stuff from the wiki now. -- [[User:flako|flako]] 01 September 2012
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--[[User:Mex|Mex]] ([[User talk:Mex|talk]]) 15:19, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
  
== why? ==
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THEN WHY NOT DETAIL IT? [[User:Raininja|Raininja]] ([[User talk:Raininja|talk]]) 14:51, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
  
dude ... you completely botched this article :-( ... you should have just fixed the bits that needed it, or replaced with working bits -- [[User:Extofme|Extofme]] ([[User talk:Extofme|talk]]) 18:47, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
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== Deletion ==
  
== GPT-centric ==
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This page needs to be deleted. As of today (April 2013) no additional steps beyond those outlined in [[Installation_Guide|Installation Guide]] are required to install Archlinux on Btrfs (except filesystem creation, ''mkfs.btrfs''). First, all entries regarding bootloader and partitioning are not specific to the Btrfs filesystem and shouldn't be here. Instead, future users should be redirected to their dedicated pages. Second, [[mkinitcpio-btrfs]] should have its own wiki page because it is not in the official repositories and it is not required to be part of the installation process.
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[[User:Cngn|Cngn]] ([[User talk:Cngn|talk]]) 11:25, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
  
Why does this article make it seem as if GPT disks are the only option? btrfs is fine on MBR disks. In fact the entire section on GPT partitioning is generic and entirely irrelevant to using btrfs for root. The section should merely point to gpt or mbr partitioning pages.
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:This topic should be split into different steps:
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:#Remove duplication with [[Installation_Guide|Installation Guide]]
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:#Merge btrfs partition part into [[Btrfs]]
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:#Add links in [[Beginner's Guide]] and [[Btrfs]] to this page.
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:#The info left should fit well as name [[mkinitcpio-btrfs]] so we can rename this page to new name. Or maybe [[Btrfs snapshots]] is a better name.
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:-- [[User:Fengchao|Fengchao]] ([[User talk:Fengchao|talk]]) 00:40, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
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::I think this page is very useful and there is no reason to delete it. without this page you have to scramble around trying to figure out the correct method. The reasons for including partitioning methods are for clarity, and what is the issue with having clear documentation? [[User:Raininja|Raininja]] ([[User talk:Raininja|talk]]) 14:57, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
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:::Fengchao's plan seems the most reasonable way to save the good content and remove what's duplicated from other articles. -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 07:40, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
  
== rewrite ==
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== btrfs snapshots ==
I have removed the relevant "disputed, unconfirmed blabla" bits about syslinux. Updated the part on installing the syslinux bootloader and added links to relevant parts of the syslinux wiki.The system install part still needs some changes to reflect the use of the AIS (arch-chroot, pacstrap etc). --[[User:Flako|Flako]] ([[User talk:Flako|talk]]) 08:46, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
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As a new archlinux user, 'don't do this' is unhelpful without an alternative set of steps that is suggested instead.
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What steps need to occur in order to setup btrfs in the right form for snapshots etc? [[User:Joshka|Joshka]] ([[User talk:Joshka|talk]]) 09:02, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Revision as of 07:40, 12 June 2013

GPT-centric

Why does this article make it seem as if GPT disks are the only option? btrfs is fine on MBR disks. In fact the entire section on GPT partitioning is generic and entirely irrelevant to using btrfs for root. The section should merely point to gpt or mbr partitioning pages.

Yes, the partition part should be merged out. -- Fengchao (talk) 00:44, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Loop method not explained.

The page says...

"Warning: If you need swap support, either make a partition, or use the loop method detailed below. DO NOT simply use a swap file! Doing so will corrupt your btrfs filesystem."

However the loop method is not detailed below.

--Mex (talk) 15:19, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

THEN WHY NOT DETAIL IT? Raininja (talk) 14:51, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Deletion

This page needs to be deleted. As of today (April 2013) no additional steps beyond those outlined in Installation Guide are required to install Archlinux on Btrfs (except filesystem creation, mkfs.btrfs). First, all entries regarding bootloader and partitioning are not specific to the Btrfs filesystem and shouldn't be here. Instead, future users should be redirected to their dedicated pages. Second, mkinitcpio-btrfs should have its own wiki page because it is not in the official repositories and it is not required to be part of the installation process. Cngn (talk) 11:25, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

This topic should be split into different steps:
  1. Remove duplication with Installation Guide
  2. Merge btrfs partition part into Btrfs
  3. Add links in Beginner's Guide and Btrfs to this page.
  4. The info left should fit well as name mkinitcpio-btrfs so we can rename this page to new name. Or maybe Btrfs snapshots is a better name.
-- Fengchao (talk) 00:40, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
I think this page is very useful and there is no reason to delete it. without this page you have to scramble around trying to figure out the correct method. The reasons for including partitioning methods are for clarity, and what is the issue with having clear documentation? Raininja (talk) 14:57, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Fengchao's plan seems the most reasonable way to save the good content and remove what's duplicated from other articles. -- Kynikos (talk) 07:40, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

btrfs snapshots

As a new archlinux user, 'don't do this' is unhelpful without an alternative set of steps that is suggested instead. What steps need to occur in order to setup btrfs in the right form for snapshots etc? Joshka (talk) 09:02, 5 May 2013 (UTC)