Talk:LIRC/Quick start guide

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I've written very little for wikis prior to this, and this isn't just any wiki, it's the Arch Wiki :) I'll correct the text editor references and show systemctl commands. I also just "found" Help:Style#Command line text and I'll modify to meet these guidelines. -- Cmsigler (talk) 16:52, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

No problem, welcome to the wiki! --Larivact (talk) 17:30, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, Larivact! You did an excellent job turning the unnumbered list into an Arch wiki-style article. Much obliged. I just made some minor cleanups to address a few final style deficiencies you pointed out. -- Cmsigler (talk) 20:04, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Merge tag

When I first considered posting this to the wiki I rejected merging this quick start with the main LIRC article. I decided this was too long -- by vertical space almost as long as the existing article.

Do others agree? Perhaps this is also a layout issue (see below)? -- Cmsigler (talk) 16:52, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

My issue is that LIRC and LIRC/Quick start guide overlap and that their separation is somewhat arbitrary (both have Installation, Configuration & Troubleshooting). If LIRC is unclear it should be revised / expanded. --Larivact (talk) 17:30, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
Oh, you want me to do the HARD work?! *chuckle* OK, I hear you. When I have time I'll see if I can't incorporate this quick start info into the main LIRC page. Your proposal makes good sense. LIRC itself could use some love. It only gets a few edits each year and would probably benefit from more input.
Also note that kernel-based IR decoding using BPF is headed our way sooner than later. I'm sure LIRC will be legacy-supported for a long time, but a new method of using IR control under Linux will need documentation. -- Cmsigler (talk) 20:04, 10 August 2018 (UTC)


I could use some help here. I feel like this type of documentation -- which by design is presented as a step-by-step (unnumbered) list -- doesn't fit in with the typical wiki layout of subsection, sub-subsection, etc. I messed a bit with different layouts, but it never seemed to look simple enough for someone brand new to LIRC (like I was a few months ago) to follow.

If anyone has suggestions please reply here or just edit. I'll also mess around and maybe I can figure out how to make it follow more traditional wiki style guidelines. -- Cmsigler (talk) 16:52, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Layout greatly improved thanks to wiki-style refactoring by Larivact -- Thank you! -- Cmsigler (talk) 20:04, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Move tag

I've had the same thought, that there is partial duplication between LIRC/Quick start guide#Installation and verification and two other sections, LIRC/Quick start guide#Setup and testing and LIRC/Quick start guide#Troubleshooting. However, I wrote the instructions that way because that's the exact procedure I used to get myself up and running when I knew nothing about using LIRC.

Is there a good way to combine repeated information while still helping someone get LIRC working by following a simple, "for dummies" step-by-step procedure? Simple, step-by-step has been my ultimate goal, FWIW. -- Cmsigler (talk) 14:29, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

I merged ‎Installation and verification and ‎Setup and testing to a Setup section. After some more cleanup we should be able to move the sections of this article to LIRC.