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== <s>Comments</s> ==
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==Classification method==
I have added some native commercial games, and a respective wine section. [[User:ScannerDarkly|ScannerDarkly]] 14:28, 29 December 2010 (EST)
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Currently, games are first divided in Free/Reimplemented/Commercial/Emulators/MMO and only then they are grouped by genre. I'd like to see the opposite, i.e. first group by genre (also in [[Template:Games navigation]]) and only inside each genre make the distinction between native/emulators, free/commercial and whatever distinction better suits that particular genre.
  
== Suggestions ==
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Note that this topic has already been briefly touched on in [[Talk:Common_Applications/Games/MMO#MMOG]] by me and AlexanderR, but more opinions are needed.
  
Svenstaro, this page is about game listings.  If you think it belongs here, could you add it to the end of the page? --[[User:Gen2ly|Gen2ly]] 19:59, 2 December 2009 (EST)
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-- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 08:45, 5 February 2012 (EST)
  
I do believe that this info should be in front since the page is simply called "Games". A general info on games and playing games on Arch with possible issues would seem more appropriate to me than simply a list of games. Perhaps we can agree that an article with a general name as this one would contain some general info too. The article is not called "Game Listing" and thus some info apart from just a list of games should be here. The length of the list alone draws visual attention to it so what would be wrong with having general info for the user first? --[[User:Svenstaro|Svenstaro]] 20:08, 2 December 2009 (EST)
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:+1 -- when browsing games, one would logically search by genre first. The genre classification scheme is more consistent with the other Common Applications pages, too, where applications are organized by type first, then by UI/platform (graphical or console). -- [[User:Pointone|pointone]] 12:25, 4 March 2012 (EST)
 
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Well, we do have a [[Common Applications]], [[Lightweight Applications]], possibly a [[Gaming Applications]]??  And then create a [[Gaming]] page with general overall information.  Thing is, I couldn't really see enough information to really make an article of it.  Any ideas?
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--[[User:Gen2ly|Gen2ly]] 20:48, 2 December 2009 (EST)
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I say we link to Wikipedia, an outgoing redirection for Lightweight and Games and keep Common. Three articles basically doing the same thing is ridiculous. Either that or we rename Common Applications to something more appropriate and stick everything in there. --[[User:Keiichi|Keiichi]] 20:56, 2 December 2009 (EST)
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I have now added my stuff to the [[Gaming]] page. It will be improved and iterated on by me and other persons. It is obviously a stub for now. Keiichi, we weren't really discussing about the stuff you now hint at. Perhaps you should bring up this issue on the mailing list? I prefer the Arch application lists to wikipedia, for one.
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--[[User:Svenstaro|Svenstaro]] 21:08, 2 December 2009 (EST)
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Should game links be to existing ArchWiki pages (if they exist) instead of the actual homepage of the game?
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--[[User:Splex|Splex]] 15:27, 27 December 2009 (HKT)
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I don't think so. It really shouldn't be necessary for a game to have its own wiki page and if it does it probably is an exception. Best we can do is link to both, homepage and wiki entry. I'd still go with homepage only, though. Which games have their own wiki pages on here?
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--[[User:Svenstaro|Svenstaro]] 03:00, 27 December 2009 (EST)
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===<s> Wine Is Not an Emulator</s>===
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I don't want to start an edit war wrt http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Games&diff=116310&oldid=prev ,but http://wiki.winehq.org/Debunking_Wine_Myths#head-7c9ecddff60d8891414b68d74277244e7109eb says:
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"When users think of emulators, they think of programs like Dosbox or zsnes. These applications run as virtual machines and are slow, having to emulate each processor instruction. Wine does not do any CPU emulation - hence the name "Wine Is Not an Emulator."
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[[User:Karol|Karol]] 00:11, 3 September 2010 (EDT)
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:Simple. Wine Is Not an Emulator. -- [[User:Pointone|pointone]] 02:27, 3 September 2010 (EDT)
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::What is an emulator? An emulator is a means of running applications written for another system. Whatever they choose to call it, Wine IS an emulator. At least last time I checked windows programs were not native to linux. However, I will bow to the LCD collective. [[User:Nevarmaor|Nevarmaor]] 08:34, 3 September 2010 (EDT)
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== <s>Turning into part of Common Applications</s> ==
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How about this: rename article to "Common Applications/Games", add all lists to [[Common Applications]] and everything not directly related to lists &ndash; to [[Gaming]].
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Interlink resulting list with [[Gaming]] and [[Netbook Games]] (which I still would like to improve to state when it can be really useful). --[[User:AlexanderR|AlexanderR]] 08:39, 16 January 2012 (EST)
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:Sounds like a good plan. Please try to maintain a brief summary of your edits in [[Talk:Common_Applications#Summary_of_related_changes]]. -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 10:49, 17 January 2012 (EST)
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::[[Common Applications]] is getting pretty long. Was there already a discussion about chopping it into subpages? -- [[User:Karol|Karol]] 10:52, 17 January 2012 (EST)
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:::It's already chopped, I think all the related discussions are in [[Talk:Common Applications]]. I like the fact that we can have a comprehensive ToC in [[Common Applications]], but then be able to get to the needed subpage with the navigation template. -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 11:06, 17 January 2012 (EST)
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::::Ah, indeed. I think I expected a tip like in [[Beginners%27_Guide]] ;P -- [[User:Karol|Karol]] 11:22, 17 January 2012 (EST)
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:::::We can't write exactly the same tip, if you already have something in mind just write it down in [[Talk:Common Applications]] ;) -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 15:23, 17 January 2012 (EST)
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== <s>Moving all commercial games into separate article</s> ==
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Commercial games are important and should be covered by this Wiki, but they tend to acquire separate sections in both this article and [[Netbook Games]]. Most commercial games are not even packaged in AUR, which means that general App template can not be applied. If no objections follow I will perform splitting soon.
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--[[User:AlexanderR|AlexanderR]] 20:32, 16 January 2012 (EST)
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:I've not understood what the result of the split will be. -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 10:52, 17 January 2012 (EST)
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::>>I've not understood what the result of the split will be
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::I guess, everything will result in splitting "Games" into several pieces, included into single article, like it was done with [[Common Applications]]. Unlike any other software, games tend to be developed in unlimited quantities, so such splitting seems to be reasonable. Also help with development of cool classification template is greatly apperciated :]! --[[User:AlexanderR|AlexanderR]] 08:43, 21 January 2012 (EST)
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::: Finished --[[User:AlexanderR|AlexanderR]]
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::::This is a massive restructuring, I'm trying to follow it, it seems you're doing a good job! :) -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 11:14, 22 January 2012 (EST)
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Revision as of 00:13, 24 May 2013

Classification method

Currently, games are first divided in Free/Reimplemented/Commercial/Emulators/MMO and only then they are grouped by genre. I'd like to see the opposite, i.e. first group by genre (also in Template:Games navigation) and only inside each genre make the distinction between native/emulators, free/commercial and whatever distinction better suits that particular genre.

Note that this topic has already been briefly touched on in Talk:Common_Applications/Games/MMO#MMOG by me and AlexanderR, but more opinions are needed.

-- Kynikos 08:45, 5 February 2012 (EST)

+1 -- when browsing games, one would logically search by genre first. The genre classification scheme is more consistent with the other Common Applications pages, too, where applications are organized by type first, then by UI/platform (graphical or console). -- pointone 12:25, 4 March 2012 (EST)