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::Why is [[General recommendations]] "too late"? If somebody needs special a11y features from the beginning of the installation, then they can't use the official iso in any case, so we should rather point them to [[TalkingArch]] directly from somewhere at the start of [[Installation guide]] or [[:Category:Getting and installing Arch]] at the latest IMO. To link to [[Accessibility]], another option could be to rename [[General recommendations#Input devices]] to [[General recommendations#Input and accessibility]], and add a subsection there. I also like Indigo's [[:Category:Getting and installing Arch#See also]] idea, but still I think that GR is the natural place for a link to the article. — [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 11:01, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 
::Why is [[General recommendations]] "too late"? If somebody needs special a11y features from the beginning of the installation, then they can't use the official iso in any case, so we should rather point them to [[TalkingArch]] directly from somewhere at the start of [[Installation guide]] or [[:Category:Getting and installing Arch]] at the latest IMO. To link to [[Accessibility]], another option could be to rename [[General recommendations#Input devices]] to [[General recommendations#Input and accessibility]], and add a subsection there. I also like Indigo's [[:Category:Getting and installing Arch#See also]] idea, but still I think that GR is the natural place for a link to the article. — [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 11:01, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 
==<s> Random page </s>==
 
 
New user, so apologies if this is in the wrong place, etc. Figured this is the most relevant place to put it.
 
 
Random page sends a user to a random page, but I think it should choose a random page from the subset of pages in the user's chosen language. I just clicked it and it sent me to a page written in German. Is this intended behavior?
 
 
[[User:Taigrr|Taigrr]] ([[User talk:Taigrr|talk]]) 02:09, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 
 
:Hi, welcome to the ArchWiki! In this wiki we only distinguish languages with the convention of using suffixes in the titles, see [[Help:i18n]], therefore MediaWiki, and its native random-page function, doesn't understand the difference, only us humans do. Some of the solutions proposed in [[Help talk:I18n]] will make [[Special:Random]] pick only English articles. Yes, the behavior that you propose would be ideal, but with our current convention it could perhaps be implemented only with a special MediaWiki extension, so I'm closing this discussion unless you do feel like writing some PHP, and in that case please reopen and move this discussion to [[Help talk:I18n]].
 
:On a side note the language of the article where you were sent can't have been German, because that language has a completely separate wiki, [https://wiki.archlinux.de wiki.archlinux.de] :)
 
:-- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 17:30, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 
 
::Fair enough, and although I'm not against writing the necessary PHP, I read through the linked talk page and it scared me off, it looks like a much bigger project than I'd realized, probably too big for someone as new to the project as I am. Maybe in the future I'll try my hand at it, though.
 
::And in reference to your side note, you are correct--it must not have been in German, it was in another language (Dutch?) and I couldn't remember which. Should have just clicked the link again and reported Spanish or something.
 
::[[User:Taigrr|Taigrr]] ([[User talk:Taigrr|talk]]) 17:55, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 

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Instructions on checking the user name

The issue with Special:ListUsers is that it displays results even when the name in question is not available. For example, foobarthisnamedoesnotexist still lists all user names starting with foo. -- Alad (talk) 21:36, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

You can go to User:Foobarthisnamedoesnotexist instead, but no idea how to describe the 4 possible cases (account does not exist, account exists but the page doesn't, the page exists but account doesn't, both things exist). -- Lahwaacz (talk) 21:49, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
There's also Special:PrefixIndex, e.g. foobarthisnamedoesnotexist, but the downside is that it also shows subpages. — Kynikos (talk) 09:39, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
Well, it's a little like letting new users play dice to find a free name first, but still useful to work around the issue, e.g.
"In order to create an account, check if your desired user name or a suitable alternative is available."
Actually, what should be the primary place to inform about how to register? The main page? Then, we should crosslink it from ArchWiki:Contributing#Improving and maybe even add a redirect for "account registration". --Indigo (talk) 12:14, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
The PrefixIndex shows existing user pages, not user accounts. -- Lahwaacz (talk) 12:22, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
Ok, yes, it's no help then. --Indigo (talk) 12:38, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Making the Accessibility article more accessible

As it stands, Accessibility is an orphan article while still an important topic to part of our user base. A link used to be hidden in List of applications/Other, which is definitely an unexpected place to look (not an "application" and especially not an "other" application); see Talk:List_of_applications#Other. Some places where it might fit:

  1. The main page
  2. Category:Getting and installing Arch
  3. General recommendations

3. assumes you already have a running installation of Arch so is "too late" in this case, unless you somehow stumbled on TalkingArch or similar project. That leaves 1. or 2. - I don't have a clear preference there. I suppose with 2. there's no resulting gap but that should be a minor concern in this case... -- Alad (talk) 21:31, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

The current content of Accessibility most matches in General recommendations#Input devices for now. In absence of a dedicated install help article, we could (a) use Category:Getting and installing Arch#See also to link to Category:Accessibility and (b) work on Category:Accessibility's description to guide to what we have. Once it's enough for a dedicated install article (ideas?), creating that is the least problem. --Indigo (talk) 09:04, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Why is General recommendations "too late"? If somebody needs special a11y features from the beginning of the installation, then they can't use the official iso in any case, so we should rather point them to TalkingArch directly from somewhere at the start of Installation guide or Category:Getting and installing Arch at the latest IMO. To link to Accessibility, another option could be to rename General recommendations#Input devices to General recommendations#Input and accessibility, and add a subsection there. I also like Indigo's Category:Getting and installing Arch#See also idea, but still I think that GR is the natural place for a link to the article. — Kynikos (talk) 11:01, 17 March 2017 (UTC)