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== GPT-centric ==
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== Things to do (accuracy & style) ==
  
Why does this article make it seem as if GPT disks are the only option? btrfs is fine on MBR disks. In fact the entire section on GPT partitioning is generic and entirely irrelevant to using btrfs for root. The section should merely point to gpt or mbr partitioning pages.
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This article is in real need of extensive editing or a complete re-write (my suggestion). See also [[Btrfs - Tips and tricks]] which covers a related topic.
: Yes, the partition part should be merged out. -- [[User:Fengchao|Fengchao]] ([[User talk:Fengchao|talk]]) 00:44, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
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== <s> rewrite </s> ==
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# '''Scope'''
I have removed the relevant "disputed, unconfirmed blabla" bits about syslinux. Updated the part on installing the syslinux bootloader and added links to relevant parts of the syslinux wiki.The system install part still needs some changes to reflect the use of the AIS (arch-chroot, pacstrap etc). --[[User:Flako|Flako]] ([[User talk:Flako|talk]]) 08:46, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
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## The scope of this article should focus exclusively on {{AUR|mkinitcpio-btrfs}}.
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### All divergent topics should be linked to [[Btrfs]] (which should be expanded as needed) or elsewhere.
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## The scope of topic of this article may necessitate a new installation.
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### Content that exists in [[Installation Guide]] or [[Beginners' Guide]] should not be duplicated.
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# '''Style'''
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## Strict adherence to [[Help:Style]] and related Arch Wiki guides should be followed throughout.
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# '''Approach'''
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## I suggest a complete re-write may be the best method to creating a page that is easier to follow and provides the most comprehensive amount of information on this topic.
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### Also see [[Btrfs - Tips and tricks]].
  
== Loop method not explained. ==
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I am willing to undertake this project if someone does not beat me to it, but it may not be until December/January (2013/2014) or later. -- [[User:AdamT|AdamT]] ([[User_talk:AdamT|Talk]]) 02:05, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
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: In the introduction, we should make it clear what functions are provided by Mkinitcpio-btrfs? Why this package is needed? --[[User:Fengchao|Fengchao]] ([[User talk:Fengchao|talk]]) 11:49, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
  
The page says...
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== works with snapper-gui? ==
  
"Warning: If you need swap support, either make a partition, or use the loop method detailed below. DO NOT simply use a swap file! Doing so will corrupt your btrfs filesystem."
 
  
However the loop method is not detailed below.
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or the kvmp gui? If yes, it would be worthwhile to mention. [[User:Y guy|Y guy]] ([[User talk:Y guy|talk]]) 10:26, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
  
--[[User:Mex|Mex]] ([[User talk:Mex|talk]]) 15:19, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
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:The answer appears to be "no". From a comment on the AUR page on 2014-02-28 21:15
 
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:''"sysfu, I never played with snapper, but in your previous comment I saw ".snapshots/2/snapshot/root". This looks like snapper is storing the root subvolume some folders deeper in the .snapshots directory. So, this will not work with mkinitcpio-btrfs, as we expect the snapshot directly in /__snapshot."''
 
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:{{unsigned|04:35, 14 May 2016‎|MountainX}}
== <s>mkinitcpio-btrfs is not available </s> ==
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The following statement will always fail due to missing mkinitcpio-btrfs, this will of course be addressed later on the page, but it should be removed from this line as it will fail and confuse new users.
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# pacman -r . -Sy base btrfs-progs mkinitcpio-btrfs <boot_loader> --ignore grub
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--[[User:Eskild|Eskild]] ([[User talk:Eskild|talk]]) Fri Feb 22 17:04:42 CET 2013
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: It is in the AUR. See [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&K=mkinitcpio-btrfs AUR page]. See [[AUR]] for installation methods. -- [[User:Fengchao|Fengchao]] ([[User talk:Fengchao|talk]]) 00:42, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
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== Deletion ==
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This page needs to be deleted. As of today (April 2013) no additional steps beyond those outlined in [[Installation_Guide|Installation Guide]] are required to install Archlinux on Btrfs (except filesystem creation, ''mkfs.btrfs''). First, all entries regarding bootloader and partitioning are not specific to the Btrfs filesystem and shouldn't be here. Instead, future users should be redirected to their dedicated pages. Second, [[mkinitcpio-btrfs]] should have its own wiki page because it is not in the official repositories and it is not required to be part of the installation process.
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[[User:Cngn|Cngn]] ([[User talk:Cngn|talk]]) 11:25, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
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:This topic should be split into different steps:
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:#Remove duplication with [[Installation_Guide|Installation Guide]]
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:#Merge btrfs partition part into [[Btrfs]]
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:#Add links in [[Beginner's Guide]] and [[Btrfs]] to this page.
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:#The info left should fit well as name [[mkinitcpio-btrfs]] so we can rename this page to new name. Or maybe [[Btrfs snapshots]] is a better name.
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:-- [[User:Fengchao|Fengchao]] ([[User talk:Fengchao|talk]]) 00:40, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
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== btrfs snapshots ==
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As a new archlinux user, 'don't do this' is unhelpful without an alternative set of steps that is suggested instead.
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What steps need to occur in order to setup btrfs in the right form for snapshots etc? [[User:Joshka|Joshka]] ([[User talk:Joshka|talk]]) 09:02, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
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Latest revision as of 07:08, 14 May 2016

Things to do (accuracy & style)

This article is in real need of extensive editing or a complete re-write (my suggestion). See also Btrfs - Tips and tricks which covers a related topic.

  1. Scope
    1. The scope of this article should focus exclusively on mkinitcpio-btrfsAUR.
      1. All divergent topics should be linked to Btrfs (which should be expanded as needed) or elsewhere.
    2. The scope of topic of this article may necessitate a new installation.
      1. Content that exists in Installation Guide or Beginners' Guide should not be duplicated.
  2. Style
    1. Strict adherence to Help:Style and related Arch Wiki guides should be followed throughout.
  3. Approach
    1. I suggest a complete re-write may be the best method to creating a page that is easier to follow and provides the most comprehensive amount of information on this topic.
      1. Also see Btrfs - Tips and tricks.

I am willing to undertake this project if someone does not beat me to it, but it may not be until December/January (2013/2014) or later. -- AdamT (Talk) 02:05, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

In the introduction, we should make it clear what functions are provided by Mkinitcpio-btrfs? Why this package is needed? --Fengchao (talk) 11:49, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

works with snapper-gui?

or the kvmp gui? If yes, it would be worthwhile to mention. Y guy (talk) 10:26, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

The answer appears to be "no". From a comment on the AUR page on 2014-02-28 21:15
"sysfu, I never played with snapper, but in your previous comment I saw ".snapshots/2/snapshot/root". This looks like snapper is storing the root subvolume some folders deeper in the .snapshots directory. So, this will not work with mkinitcpio-btrfs, as we expect the snapshot directly in /__snapshot."
—This unsigned comment is by MountainX (talk) 04:35, 14 May 2016‎. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!