Difference between revisions of "Talk:Mkinitcpio-btrfs"

From ArchWiki
Jump to: navigation, search
m (Visit moved page Talk:Installing on Btrfs root to Talk:Mkinitcpio-btrfs: As mentioned in discussion page. Updated content will follow.)
(works with snapper-gui?: close)
 
(20 intermediate revisions by 8 users not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
== GPT-centric ==
+
== <s>Things to do (accuracy & style)</s> ==
  
Why does this article make it seem as if GPT disks are the only option? btrfs is fine on MBR disks. In fact the entire section on GPT partitioning is generic and entirely irrelevant to using btrfs for root. The section should merely point to gpt or mbr partitioning pages.
+
This article is in real need of extensive editing or a complete re-write (my suggestion). See also [[Btrfs - Tips and tricks]] which covers a related topic.
: Yes, the partition part should be merged out. -- [[User:Fengchao|Fengchao]] ([[User talk:Fengchao|talk]]) 00:44, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
+
  
== Loop method not explained. ==
+
# '''Scope'''
 +
## The scope of this article should focus exclusively on {{AUR|mkinitcpio-btrfs}}.
 +
### All divergent topics should be linked to [[Btrfs]] (which should be expanded as needed) or elsewhere.
 +
## The scope of topic of this article may necessitate a new installation.
 +
### Content that exists in [[Installation Guide]] or [[Beginners' Guide]] should not be duplicated.
 +
# '''Style'''
 +
## Strict adherence to [[Help:Style]] and related Arch Wiki guides should be followed throughout.
 +
# '''Approach'''
 +
## I suggest a complete re-write may be the best method to creating a page that is easier to follow and provides the most comprehensive amount of information on this topic.
 +
### Also see [[Btrfs - Tips and tricks]].  
  
The page says...
+
I am willing to undertake this project if someone does not beat me to it, but it may not be until December/January (2013/2014) or later. -- [[User:AdamT|AdamT]] ([[User_talk:AdamT|Talk]]) 02:05, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
 +
: In the introduction, we should make it clear what functions are provided by Mkinitcpio-btrfs? Why this package is needed? --[[User:Fengchao|Fengchao]] ([[User talk:Fengchao|talk]]) 11:49, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
  
"Warning: If you need swap support, either make a partition, or use the loop method detailed below. DO NOT simply use a swap file! Doing so will corrupt your btrfs filesystem."
+
::Looks like this package was never properly updated to follow [[mkinitcpio]] developments. Together with the issues describe above, I've redirected it to [[mkinitcpio]]. Closing. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 16:44, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
  
However the loop method is not detailed below.
+
== <s>works with snapper-gui?</s> ==
  
--[[User:Mex|Mex]] ([[User talk:Mex|talk]]) 15:19, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
+
or the kvmp gui? If yes, it would be worthwhile to mention. [[User:Y guy|Y guy]] ([[User talk:Y guy|talk]]) 10:26, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
  
THEN WHY NOT DETAIL IT? [[User:Raininja|Raininja]] ([[User talk:Raininja|talk]]) 14:51, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
+
:The answer appears to be "no". From a comment on the AUR page on 2014-02-28 21:15
 
+
:''"sysfu, I never played with snapper, but in your previous comment I saw ".snapshots/2/snapshot/root". This looks like snapper is storing the root subvolume some folders deeper in the .snapshots directory. So, this will not work with mkinitcpio-btrfs, as we expect the snapshot directly in /__snapshot."''
== Deletion ==
+
:{{unsigned|04:35, 14 May 2016‎|MountainX}}
 
+
This page needs to be deleted. As of today (April 2013) no additional steps beyond those outlined in [[Installation_Guide|Installation Guide]] are required to install Archlinux on Btrfs (except filesystem creation, ''mkfs.btrfs''). First, all entries regarding bootloader and partitioning are not specific to the Btrfs filesystem and shouldn't be here. Instead, future users should be redirected to their dedicated pages. Second, [[mkinitcpio-btrfs]] should have its own wiki page because it is not in the official repositories and it is not required to be part of the installation process.
+
[[User:Cngn|Cngn]] ([[User talk:Cngn|talk]]) 11:25, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
+
 
+
:This topic should be split into different steps:
+
:#Remove duplication with [[Installation_Guide|Installation Guide]]
+
:#Merge btrfs partition part into [[Btrfs]]
+
:#Add links in [[Beginner's Guide]] and [[Btrfs]] to this page.
+
:#The info left should fit well as name [[mkinitcpio-btrfs]] so we can rename this page to new name. Or maybe [[Btrfs snapshots]] is a better name.
+
:-- [[User:Fengchao|Fengchao]] ([[User talk:Fengchao|talk]]) 00:40, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
+
 
+
::I think this page is very useful and there is no reason to delete it. without this page you have to scramble around trying to figure out the correct method. The reasons for including partitioning methods are for clarity, and what is the issue with having clear documentation? [[User:Raininja|Raininja]] ([[User talk:Raininja|talk]]) 14:57, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
+
 
+
:::Fengchao's plan seems the most reasonable way to save the good content and remove what's duplicated from other articles. -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 07:40, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
+
 
+
== btrfs snapshots ==
+
As a new archlinux user, 'don't do this' is unhelpful without an alternative set of steps that is suggested instead.
+
What steps need to occur in order to setup btrfs in the right form for snapshots etc? [[User:Joshka|Joshka]] ([[User talk:Joshka|talk]]) 09:02, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
+

Latest revision as of 16:45, 22 August 2016

Things to do (accuracy & style)

This article is in real need of extensive editing or a complete re-write (my suggestion). See also Btrfs - Tips and tricks which covers a related topic.

  1. Scope
    1. The scope of this article should focus exclusively on mkinitcpio-btrfsAUR.
      1. All divergent topics should be linked to Btrfs (which should be expanded as needed) or elsewhere.
    2. The scope of topic of this article may necessitate a new installation.
      1. Content that exists in Installation Guide or Beginners' Guide should not be duplicated.
  2. Style
    1. Strict adherence to Help:Style and related Arch Wiki guides should be followed throughout.
  3. Approach
    1. I suggest a complete re-write may be the best method to creating a page that is easier to follow and provides the most comprehensive amount of information on this topic.
      1. Also see Btrfs - Tips and tricks.

I am willing to undertake this project if someone does not beat me to it, but it may not be until December/January (2013/2014) or later. -- AdamT (Talk) 02:05, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

In the introduction, we should make it clear what functions are provided by Mkinitcpio-btrfs? Why this package is needed? --Fengchao (talk) 11:49, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
Looks like this package was never properly updated to follow mkinitcpio developments. Together with the issues describe above, I've redirected it to mkinitcpio. Closing. -- Alad (talk) 16:44, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

works with snapper-gui?

or the kvmp gui? If yes, it would be worthwhile to mention. Y guy (talk) 10:26, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

The answer appears to be "no". From a comment on the AUR page on 2014-02-28 21:15
"sysfu, I never played with snapper, but in your previous comment I saw ".snapshots/2/snapshot/root". This looks like snapper is storing the root subvolume some folders deeper in the .snapshots directory. So, this will not work with mkinitcpio-btrfs, as we expect the snapshot directly in /__snapshot."
—This unsigned comment is by MountainX (talk) 04:35, 14 May 2016‎. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!