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:[https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=NVIDIA&diff=341942&oldid=341675], let me know if it still doesn't work. But maybe we should reconsider this section and simply inform the user on the dependency issue in [[NVIDIA#Installing]]. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 10:30, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 
:[https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=NVIDIA&diff=341942&oldid=341675], let me know if it still doesn't work. But maybe we should reconsider this section and simply inform the user on the dependency issue in [[NVIDIA#Installing]]. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 10:30, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 
:edit: It's already mentioned in [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nouveau#Coming_from_the_proprietary_NVIDIA_driver], so maybe add a link instead. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 10:36, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 
:edit: It's already mentioned in [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nouveau#Coming_from_the_proprietary_NVIDIA_driver], so maybe add a link instead. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 10:36, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
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::Thanks, now it should ''theoretically'' work, unless something else depends explicitly on {{Pkg|nvidia-libgl}} or {{Pkg|mesa-libgl}}. Users should remember that {{ic|-Rdd}} is dangerous, if there is a section about it somewhere we might want to link to it. -- [[User:Lahwaacz|Lahwaacz]] ([[User talk:Lahwaacz|talk]]) 19:26, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

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XRandR support

As far as i understand it the recent drivers support XRANDR, which is probably much better than Xinerama/Twinview. Should we remove the Xinerame/Twinview instructions alltogether and just mention to use the standard XRandR methods for multiscreen setups?

NVoption Online

NVoption Online Version - great tool to make tv-out easy and fast

[I'm using gmplayer with gl and twinview] [1]http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/nv-online/

Reword

Maybe someone can put this in better words: Logging out, or switching to a different terminal using ctrl+alt+F<2-9> consistently resulted in a black screen, and killing Xorg with ctrl-alt-backspace resulted in a terminal screen with only the top line visible. It turned out that a 'vga=773' added to kernel line was the cause of this. After removing that the problem was solved. Probably something to do with KMS? B.t.w. I have only used x with 'startx', so possibly specific for that way of starting X. rwd

Was it with this driver or nouveau? The proprietary drivers don't have KMS. thestinger 17:42, 13 December 2010 (EST)

This was with the proprietary driver. I originally had put vga=.. because it made gave the bootup screen a higher resolution, and because the beginners guide mentions it (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide#GRUB). Apart from leaving out the vga option, I discovered that setting it to the native resolution as explained on https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#Framebuffer_resolution fixes the black screens as well. Maybe a warning for using vga= option with with proprietary drivers would be useful.rwd

Well the thing is that vga= is meant for the proprietary drivers only - open source drivers already set the native resolution without a vga command. It can be removed from the beginners' guide though, since it breaks open source drivers, and if the card doesn't support the vga command, it breaks the closed source ones too. thestinger 20:13, 13 December 2010 (EST)

'/dev/nvidia0' Input/Output error... suggested fixes

Can anyone verify that the BIOS related suggestions work and are not coincidentally set (either automatically when changing the IRQ or turning off ACPI) while troubleshooting? I have found little information that confirms any of the suggestions would work. The file permissions thing seems to be completely unfounded and never works (as noted in the article) that I could find. It would probably be a good idea if we cleaned out items that have not been verified to work. For my setup I was having this error and none of the items in the wiki nor the many file permission search results worked. -- click, them so hard 19:16, 4 March 2012 (EST)

I've added an Accuracy template, please next time add it yourself so that discussions like this are more visible. -- Kynikos 05:40, 6 March 2012 (EST)

Rewrite

I think the "Installing" section is a little ambiguous and could use a bit of rewording. Because the steps are numbered, and little indication is given otherwise, it is implied that you need both the packages named like nvidia-173xx, and the regular nvidia packages. I don't actually have my nvidia drivers working properly, so maybe I'm misinterpreting this, but if I'm right in assuming that you need either the specifically named drivers like nvidia-173xx or the plain ol' nvidia drivers, step 2 needs to be reworded. I would suggest displaying two separate [code] blocks, one with # pacman -S nvidia-173xx nvidia-173xx-utils, and the one that's there now. Then make it explicitly clear that you need to do one or the other, not both. --Sotanaht 18:45, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

Oh, I forgot that the nvidia-173xx drivers were not in the official repos. Scratch the part about including the command for installing that. I still think it's important to make clear that people using the nvidia-173xx drivers do not need the regular nvidia drivers. Also make it clear that people using the regular nvidia drivers do not need any nvidia-XXXxx drivers. --Sotanaht 18:49, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

Well, I've never had to use the old Nvidia drivers, but the note says that the old modules don't support Xorg 1.11 (Arch provides 1.12 now). Unless the situation has changed, those drivers are useless unless you also write instructions on how to safely downgrade Xorg. Please correct me if I'm wrong. -- Kynikos (talk) 11:27, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Bad performance, e.g. slow repaints when switching tabs in Chrome suggestion broke emerald/compiz

Firefox performs quite poorly for me, so I tried this suggestion and it ended up breaking my WM. All new window borders changed to solid white and would not move around. Can someone else confirm? If so there should probably be a note or amendment to the suggestion. Biltong (talk)

Run a test

There is confusing paragraph saying You can run a test to see if the Xorg server will function correctly without a configuration file.. IMHO, it should be clarified what kind of test the author has in mind, an exact command would be helpful. Currently, this suggestion is simply confusing, especially to less experienced users. --Mloskot (talk) 19:52, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

nvidia-xconfig

Several of the commands which are suggested to be run with nvidia-xconfig (such as nvidia-xconfig --twinview) don't work with the current nvidia packages in the repository. I just went through setting mine up so I intend to clean up the ones that I can from my experience. Some don't seem to have a 1:1 replacement (there is a --dynamic-twinview argument now; is that the same as --twinview was?). Teh (talk) 13:10, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Automatic re-compilation of the NVIDIA module with every update of any kernel

Is this section also (for comfort) needed when installing nvidia driver if one is using the stock kernel? Or is it only needed when installing the driver for a custom kernel? The chapter layout of the Installation chapter is maybe misleading me. --Strubbl (talk) 21:14, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Removing unsupported legacy drivers

With Nvidia having released a new legacy branch recently, which should hit the repositories soon, the Installation section was getting crowded.

The 173xx and 96xx branches, for pre-2005 cards, are no longer supported by Nvidia,[2] and do not support the current Xorg server. Therefore I presume they are useless for most people.

Because of this I think it is beneficial to remove all mention to these drivers, and just send users of these cards (if there are any), to the nouveau driver.

I have done so in this edit. If anyone objects, please undo it, or let me know what I can improve! --Lonaowna (talk) 15:53, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

I like it :) -- Kynikos (talk) 01:16, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
I don't like it. I'm still using the nvidia-96xxAUR driver on one of my old computer with NV17 card, and it works better than nouveau. Anyone could install it on a current Arch system from my city repo with Xorg 1.12. So I would like to undo it for now, and keep them until they become unusable. --City-busz (talk) 02:46, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Ok, if they are still in use, I have reintroduced them in a small subsection.[3] Do you know which features work better with Nvidia's driver than with nouveau? Then I can list that in the article. --Lonaowna (talk) 09:42, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Both drivers support 2D acceleration reliably, but most of the 3D applications don't work with the nouveau_vieux driver (either crash or major visual artifacts), while work well with nvidia-96xx. And upstream don't accept bug reports about the nouveau_vieux driver.[4] --City-busz (talk) 14:02, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Ok, thanks! I hope you like the new section. If not, please edit it to your liking! --Lonaowna (talk) 07:07, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, it's fine for me now. --City-busz (talk) 13:46, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Switching between NVIDIA and nouveau drivers

About [5]: replacing nvidia-$BRANCH-libgl with mesa-libgl naively by pacman -S mesa-libgl fail due to unsatisfied dependencies, which is the reason for -Rdd in the previous script. Not that it worked perfectly, there should still be some warning... -- Lahwaacz (talk) 11:20, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

[6], let me know if it still doesn't work. But maybe we should reconsider this section and simply inform the user on the dependency issue in NVIDIA#Installing. -- Alad (talk) 10:30, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
edit: It's already mentioned in [7], so maybe add a link instead. -- Alad (talk) 10:36, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, now it should theoretically work, unless something else depends explicitly on nvidia-libgl or mesa-libgl. Users should remember that -Rdd is dangerous, if there is a section about it somewhere we might want to link to it. -- Lahwaacz (talk) 19:26, 26 October 2014 (UTC)