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== <s>top article style note</s> ==
Is the top article style note still relevant? Which parts are meant to be "corner-cases"? --[[User:Indigo|Indigo]] ([[User talk:Indigo|talk]]) 07:48, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
:I've restructured the article (some work left), let me know what you think. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 10:42, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
::Ah, now I see what you had in mind. I was confused with 'below' in the note suggesting "Move #Usage below #Installation", because obviously #Usage was below #Installation in the TOC already - I should have pictured that :) Anyhow, I like most rework you did. In particular it achieves a quicker headstart for users who want to enable the basic client daemon config. 
::What I don't like about the new structure boils down to what you now put in the [[Network Time Protocol daemon#Usage]] merge note: It is just not ideal to have all the services/options to start the daemon right in the installation section. I have a faint memory of an older discussion about using
::# Usage
::## Commandline
::## Services
::or similar, but we ended up staying with the separate #Autostarting section. I will make a few edits to show how I would move forward now. --[[User:Indigo|Indigo]] ([[User talk:Indigo|talk]]) 19:11, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
::Done. I know moving the services down out of installation is not what you had in mind, but to me it is just the more logical TOC like this. Feel free to roll back these edits, no problemo. Another alternative would be to create a new section above Tips&Tricks for the server configuration, but the way [[Network Time Protocol daemon#NTP server mode]] is written it fits well where it is (plus this is a time serving daemon, not a time syncing one only). --[[User:Indigo|Indigo]] ([[User talk:Indigo|talk]]) 19:56, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
:::I like the current order too, it solves the [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Network_Time_Protocol_daemon&diff=377298&oldid=377285 problem] and I don't see anything wrong with explicitly saying to [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Network_Time_Protocol_daemon&diff=377355&oldid=377354 skip configuration] if desired. Just my $0.02... -- [[User:Lahwaacz|Lahwaacz]] ([[User talk:Lahwaacz|talk]]) 20:42, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
::::Yep, it looks cleaner and there's no harm in taking full advantage of wiki links. I wasn't sure on whether to put "On network connection" in a general section or in the tips, but if other articles do latter it's fine with me.
::::My idea with the services was explain what commands they use; for example:
:::::[[Enable]] the daemon with {{ic|ntpd.service}}. This service runs ''ntpd'' directly as the {{ic|ntp}} user ({{ic|-u ntp:ntp}}), and allows the time to be set to any value without restriction ({{ic|-g}}).
::::-- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 21:05, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
:::::That's a neat idea. I did that re-using existing verbose. Please go over the result. --[[User:Indigo|Indigo]] ([[User talk:Indigo|talk]]) 16:03, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
::::::Nice work; I've made a small change: [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Network_Time_Protocol_daemon&diff=377514&oldid=377471] Are there further thoughts, or can this be closed? -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 15:14, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
:::::::Nothing further I'd say. closing. --[[User:Indigo|Indigo]] ([[User talk:Indigo|talk]]) 07:03, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

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