Talk:Optical disc drive

Command line order

I don't know what ArchLinux is about, but this page was a very nice reference for growisofs. However, according to the man page for growisofs, all options for growisofs should come before the -[Z|M] /dev/dvd-device. The synopsis is:

growisofs [-dry-run] [-dvd-compat] [-overburn] [-speed=1] -[Z|M] /dev/dvd <mkisofs-options>

so this line:

growisofs -Z /dev/cdrw -v -l -dry-run -iso-level 3 -R -J -speed=2 -joliet-long -graft-points /Magazines/=/home/citral/books/mags/

should rather be:

growisofs -dry-run -speed=2 -Z /dev/cdrw -v -l -iso-level 3 -R -J -joliet-long -graft-points /Magazines/=/home/citral/books/mags/

since -dry-run and -speed=N are options for growisofs and not mkisofs. I'm guessing growisofs figures that out for itself though, but for the sake of consistency, I feel the order should be changed... - (Reep 15:24, 4 April 2006 (EDT))

Sounds very logical to me. Since it is your discovery, would you mind updating the page yourself? --citral 14:24, 16 July 2006 (PDT)

DVD Ripping - mplayer -dumpstream

hey, I normaly just do

mplayer -dumpstream

and write it to a .vob file.

So the actual command could look like:

mplayer dvd://1 -v -dumpstream -dumpfile film.vob

Of course I get really big files this way. (3-8 gigabyte) But I think it's definitely the best quality, isn't it? And you can easily compress the vob-file anyway later if you want to.

I don't really have much knowledge about mplayer and video in general, so I didn't just write it in the article. I only adopted it from [1] (german language)

If anyone knows a better method (for example make mplayer read the dvd more carefully, if quality matters more than time) please write.

--Advocatusdiaboli 15:40, 10 November 2009 (EST)

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Maybe some of these links have useful info? [2] [3] [4]

CD Burning

I'm suggesting there should be a 'CD Burning' page where (1.) Commandline burning is explained and (2.) Burning with a GUI. CD Burning is a more unified title than this page. --User:Marco`

I have begun to merge this page into the CD Burning page --User:Marco`

special burning options ?

Have think about burning following CD :

-bootable CD 
-contains audio track ( for CD player ) , any position is OK

Is such CD ( technically ) possible to burn ?

Burning files/directories throught genisoimage

make the .iso file:

# genisoimage -r -J -o cd_image.iso /directory

The -r and -J ensures long file names work for Unix (using Rock Ridge) and Windows (using Joliet extensions) respectively.

Merge multiple pages CD/DVD

I've seen that there are a few Pages that describe CD / DVD burning tools. I ask myself "why?".

• CD Burning
• DVD Burning
• DVD Playing
• DVD Ripping
• Video2dvdiso one page for a single script (????)

This pages describe "how to use" the same device. Nowadays there are only devices that burning them both cd/dvd. I think we need to merge all the pages in a single. In this way it is easier consultation by the users, because everyone would like to know how to exploit and operate your device to play, burning and ripping cd/dvd without having to navigate through multiple pages for a single device. Also the page of 'DVD burning' are not mentioned programs to burn, rightly cited the page burinig CD ..... this indicates that do not make sense multiple page for a single device, I want to know how to use my dvd burner? I have to navigate through multiple pages, if only to know what programs to use.Veleno (talk) 08:18, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Ah well it sounds like a good plan to me :) It also sounds like a big job though: if you think you can do it, go for it! Just make sure to do many little edits (not just a few big ones) and document all of them using the edit summary. If you're not doing the merge, instead, you can request it by adding Template:Merge to those articles. -- Kynikos (talk) 13:52, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes ! It's a big job! mmm I can try to do a single page in my personal page, just to example, and add a template "merge" in all pages that link in this discussion. So all users will be made aware and can participate if they want, while I begin to do a draft.Veleno (talk) 10:12, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Well, i've created an example for this merging in my personal page https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/User:Veleno77 . This merging consist in a few step.

1. Create a new page with title " Optical disc drive "
2. In this page, simply merging CD Burning , DVD Burning , DVD Playing , DVD Ripping and related troubleshooting.
3. In the section "See also" add a link to Convert any Movie to DVD Video, because this is the real related page.
4. The page Video2dvdiso is a page for a single script related to Convert any Movie to DVD Video, and I think must be included in it.

Now I'm waiting for your views. Veleno (talk) 22:25, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Good job, I like your draft, I'd just like to ask you to wait a few days before putting it into practice, let's say until this weekend, so we'll see if there are any users against the merge. That said, note the title of the page will have to be capitalized as per Help:Editing#Creating pages (I know it's a very hidden rule), and to make it a very good job you could try to perform the merge in multiple edits, not only a single big one, for example:

1. Create Optical Disc Drive
2. Merge CD Burning as it is (without changes)
3. Adjust the section tree as in your draft
4. Merge DVD Burning as it is (without changes)
5. Adjust the section tree as in your draft
6. Merge DVD Playing as it is (without changes)
7. Adjust the section tree as in your draft
8. Merge DVD Ripping as it is (without changes)
9. Adjust the section tree as in your draft
10. Merge the Troubleshooting sections
11. Add any relevant links to the See also section

Then redirect the 4 merged articles to the correct sections in Optical Disc Drive.

Finally yeah, I'd say Video2dvdiso can be merged into Convert any Movie to DVD Video.

-- Kynikos (talk) 11:22, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for all your support and for your explanations. Unfortunately I am new to this method of "merging". I welcome all your suggestions and I hope to do things in a clear way, and not to make mistakes. I'll wait a few days and then I will get to work.Veleno (talk) 21:43, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

OK! All the changes have been done. I did well to create redirects to the sections? Or should I point them to the main page?Veleno (talk) 18:14, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Very well done, thank you!! And thanks for making it easy to check all the edits by applying the changes step by step :) Redirecting to the proper sections was indeed the right thing to do, I've just redirected here the respective talk pages too, merging all the old discussions, like this very one.

This discussion can be closed, as new comments can be added to #A big merge.

-- Kynikos (talk) 13:59, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

A big merge

This page is the result of the merger of pages:

• CD Burning
• DVD Burning
• DVD Playing
• DVD Ripping

A one page to describe how to use an optical disc drive: CD burning; burning, ripping and playing DVD, inherent troubleshooting.

For all wiki's translators:, simple read the "history" tab for how to merge all page in your language. For more detail see https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Talk:CD_Burning Veleno (talk) 15:31, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

How to contribute as upstream developer ?

Being the developer of libburn i see that you are consolidating the knowledge about CD, DVD, and BD. Now i feel the urge to propose some corrections.

Would it be welcome if i make substantial changes, or would it be better to leave the wiki work to a person who is not involved in the competing burn software for archlinux ? (I have no experience with this wiki software. Beware.)

What i would change:

1. Clean out burn war rethorics (mainly cdrkit vs. cdrtools)
2. Move ISO 9660 stuff before burning stuff
3. Add my own packages libburn, libisofs, libisoburn to the list
4. Unify the command names used in examples
5. Clarify some technical facts

I have a more detailed list of change proposals. 150 lines. Shall i post it here ? Scdbackup (talk) 12:48, 26 July 2013 (UTC)