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This [[Pm-utils#Locking_the_screen_saver_on_hibernate_or_suspend|script]] does not work. --[[User:Ninquitassar|Ninquitassar]] 09:09, 12 January 2012 (EST)
This [[Pm-utils#Locking_the_screen_saver_on_hibernate_or_suspend|script]] does not work. --[[User:Ninquitassar|Ninquitassar]] 09:09, 12 January 2012 (EST)
== <s>Delete "How it works" section?</s> ==
:Hi! Is there anyone still really interested in reading and understandig how does pm-utils work?
:Pm-utils is a mess, why should any user be interested in it? For lots of usual things (eg hibernating, suspending), now upower relies on systemd.
:I'm the translator of the italian arch wiki community of this page. And i'd really like to remove this section and slim down this wiki page.
:Still, in "tips and tricks", i guess the first tip, about hdparm, should be removed. Instead should be added under the systemd-sleep wiki (as i already said, upower won't :use pm-utils to suspend, therefore it won't be executed anymore on 99% of users laptops.) [[User:Nierro|Nierro]] ([[User talk:Nierro|talk]]) 17:47, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
:: I would like it there. pm-utils still used [[Systemd#ACPI_power_management|here]], for example. --[[User:Doru001|Doru001]] ([[User talk:Doru001|talk]]) 11:24, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
:::What do you mean by "it's still used there" ? You linked systemd acpi control. That relies only on systemd, not pm-utils. [[User:Nierro|Nierro]] ([[User talk:Nierro|talk]]) 14:49, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
::Is that section inaccurate or out of date? If the only reason for deleting it is ease of translation, I think you can just delete it in the Italian article or replace it with a link to the English section, nobody forces you to translate everything after all ;) -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 05:18, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
::::I know :) Thanks for the tip, but as I said, i guess near no user even asks himself how does pm-utils work. And powersave section of the archwiki is already bloated: we ::::have pm-utils, laptop, suspend to... , systemd, etc etc. It would be nice to cut off something useless. By the way, if you think it should stay there, we'll keep it.
::::And, let me say that, translation it's not a problem, since i already translated it, and probably no one will alter it anymore :) [[User:Nierro|Nierro]] ([[User talk:Nierro|talk]]) 07:48, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::By the way, I think we'll soon be at the point where pm-utils is actually dropped from the repositories, since the hook functionality has been replaced by systemd with After/Before in unit files or the system-sleep directory for quick ports of old hooks. [[User:Thestinger|thestinger]] ([[User talk:Thestinger|talk]]) 21:23, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
::::::I agree with you, and i'm looking forward to that point too. Again, my question is: is keeping that part of the pm-utils wiki page worthwhile? What informations will end users miss, by deleting that? [[User:Nierro|Nierro]] ([[User talk:Nierro|talk]]) 12:42, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::::@Nierro: don't think of articles as just howtos, it's good if they try to be informative too.
:::::::@thestinger: if it ends up in the [[AUR]] this article will probably follow an analogous fate as [[Talk:SysVinit#Do we have to delete this page?|sysvinit etc]].
:::::::-- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 12:55, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
::::::::I know that...but it generates confusion instead of help users. By the way, i give up. Let's keep this page as it is now. It has been a good discussion anyway. I'll mark this as closed. [[User:Nierro|Nierro]] ([[User talk:Nierro|talk]]) 13:00, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

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"Locking the screen saver on hibernate or suspend" does not work

This script does not work. --Ninquitassar 09:09, 12 January 2012 (EST)