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"Locking the screen saver on hibernate or suspend" does not work

This script does not work. --Ninquitassar 09:09, 12 January 2012 (EST)

Delete "How it works" section?

Hi! Is there anyone still really interested in reading and understandig how does pm-utils work?
Pm-utils is a mess, why should any user be interested in it? For lots of usual things (eg hibernating, suspending), now upower relies on systemd.
I'm the translator of the italian arch wiki community of this page. And i'd really like to remove this section and slim down this wiki page.
Still, in "tips and tricks", i guess the first tip, about hdparm, should be removed. Instead should be added under the systemd-sleep wiki (as i already said, upower won't :use pm-utils to suspend, therefore it won't be executed anymore on 99% of users laptops.) Nierro (talk) 17:47, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
I would like it there. pm-utils still used here, for example. --Doru001 (talk) 11:24, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
What do you mean by "it's still used there" ? You linked systemd acpi control. That relies only on systemd, not pm-utils. Nierro (talk) 14:49, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Is that section inaccurate or out of date? If the only reason for deleting it is ease of translation, I think you can just delete it in the Italian article or replace it with a link to the English section, nobody forces you to translate everything after all ;) -- Kynikos (talk) 05:18, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
I know :) Thanks for the tip, but as I said, i guess near no user even asks himself how does pm-utils work. And powersave section of the archwiki is already bloated: we ::::have pm-utils, laptop, suspend to... , systemd, etc etc. It would be nice to cut off something useless. By the way, if you think it should stay there, we'll keep it.
And, let me say that, translation it's not a problem, since i already translated it, and probably no one will alter it anymore :) Nierro (talk) 07:48, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
By the way, I think we'll soon be at the point where pm-utils is actually dropped from the repositories, since the hook functionality has been replaced by systemd with After/Before in unit files or the system-sleep directory for quick ports of old hooks. thestinger (talk) 21:23, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
I agree with you, and i'm looking forward to that point too. Again, my question is: is keeping that part of the pm-utils wiki page worthwhile? What informations will end users miss, by deleting that? Nierro (talk) 12:42, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
@Nierro: don't think of articles as just howtos, it's good if they try to be informative too.
@thestinger: if it ends up in the AUR this article will probably follow an analogous fate as sysvinit etc.
-- Kynikos (talk) 12:55, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
I know that...but it generates confusion instead of help users. By the way, i give up. Let's keep this page as it is now. It has been a good discussion anyway. I'll mark this as closed. Nierro (talk) 13:00, 15 July 2013 (UTC)