Talk:Wayland

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Window managers and desktop shells

Enlightenment?

I read here that they already had good support for Wayland two years ago. Doesn't that make it an important addition to this list? Johnchfr (talk) 17:49, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, you are free to add it. -- Kynikos (talk) 04:06, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
But, I tried it out (pkg from aur) and it seems very rough. The desktop comes up but when I try launching an app, displays an error dialog and when I close the dialog, it froze my system (I could not even switch ttys)! I didn't do much testing through different compile-options, though. -- Johnchfr (talk) 11:17, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
It seems they're working on it, so it's worth being documented here, together with any relevant note about the state of the implementation. We don't decide what's good and what's bad for users here, we just give objective information to let the users make their own decisions. -- Kynikos (talk) 00:02, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
since it's years later now, a quick update: enlightenment is usable (like gnome) with few minor issues --Ubone (talk) 14:22, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Weston - Keyboard Shortcuts

Why set Ctrl-b in the article section ? vinegret (talk) 07:22, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Replacing i3way with sway

Hi there. I've gone ahead and replaced the i3way table row with a row about sway instead. i3way is vaporware with 2 years of radio silence, and sway is actually usable today. SirCmpwn (talk) 13:29, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

dbus

On weston 1.12, application using dbus cannot be launched normally. I've added a workaround to launch on the troubleshooting section.

Alive4ever (talk)

weston usage

Folks at #wayland told me weston should be started from tty with just weston if using logind, apparently weston-launch is a workaround(?) if it's not present. Ubone (talk) 15:49, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

From man weston

When  weston is started as the first windowing system (i.e. not under X nor under another Wayland server), it should be done with the command weston-launch to set up proper privileged access to devices. If your system supports the logind D-Bus API and the support has been built into weston as well, it is  possible to start weston with just weston.

https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/plain/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/westonUbone (talk) 03:31, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Graphics driver section

Would be cool to have some graphics driver section, just like the Xorg page. Maybe a common page? Emersion (talk) 10:26, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Troubleshooting "Running graphical applications as root"

I think that the https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wayland#Running_graphical_applications_as_root section should warn that it might be a bug in the application, not a bug in Wayland if the user needs to run a GUI app as root, see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1274451#c76. The wording in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Wayland_problems#Graphical_applications_can.27t_be_run_as_root_from_terminal is pretty good, so maybe we should link to that. --Wikizian (talk) 09:27, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

The RDP backend in wlroots

A new paragraph is added in https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Wayland&diff=next&oldid=573059. I think it is not enabled in Arch's wlroots? https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/62809.

—This unsigned comment is by Yan12125 (talk) 11:00, 8 June 2019‎. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

Move Weston section to its own page & cleanup?

I think its a little odd that Weston is front and center on the Wayland page, and that it takes up 1/3 of the article.

The Weston section comes before the relevant discussion on/list of Wayland compositors which might mislead users into thinking they need Weston for Wayland in the same way they need X.org for X. Especially with the way the page somewhat mirrors the X.org page which starts with xorg-server installation instructions, and that Weston is not listed along with the other Wayland compositors in the compositors section.

In my opinion, the description of compositors should at least come first, and Weston should be listed among them. The Weston section should probably move to its own page. Additionally, some general and important info like XWayland is currently ensconced in the Weston section, so even users who know it is not relevant to them might miss it.

Less important, but I also find it odd that there is no mention of the wayland or wayland-protocols packages on the Wayland page, even though they're just dependencies for some compositors.

Finally, I think there should be a new section discussing application specific configuration as well, e.g. MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND or Wayland alternative software like xclip -> wl-clipboard.

—This unsigned comment is by Brocellous (talk) 00:08, October 18 2019 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!