Talk:Wireless network configuration

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iwlist wlan0 scanning syntax

In section "" is the shell command "iwlist wlan0 scanning" mentioned. "iwlist scan" will do in most cases, and is even without system dependent interface names. (Also, its at least 4 characters shorter, depending on system configuration, and in this respect more according to the arch way than the current version.) -- Scr (talk) 12:26, 5 April 2013‎ (UTC)

Similar to ip, all objects may be written in full or abbreviated form, as long as it's unambiguous. For example, following commands are equivalent: iwlist wlan0 scanning, iwlist wlan0 scan, iwlist wlan0 s. For good readability, I'd definitely not use the shortest s. As iwlist --help yields the full form scanning, I think it's better to keep it that way. -- Lahwaacz (talk) 19:00, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
+1 on keeping it like it is, yes. In my view the question is rather when it is time to eliminate iwlist and iwconfig alltogether and just keep iw for simplicity. I thought about that when I added the latter about a year back. I suspect there are still chips around which show ambigious results with nl, but I cannot recall having seen an example for that suspicion. Maybe someone knows how this could be tested. On the other hand there are wireless management methods which rely on wireless_tools. So for those alone the duplicity is worth keeping I reckon.--Indigo (talk) 11:03, 3 August 2013 (UTC)


I installed Arch Linux in December 2012 and my wpa_supplicant.conf file is at /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf , so I would suggest updating this page to reflect that. DavidEGrayson (talk) 23:17, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

That is intentional in order not to change the original .conf which is really good reference documentation in itself. Explanation for it you find in the wpa_supplicant wiki here. The idea is you create a new /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and work with that. Since all wpa_supplicant calls mentioned in the wiki address the /etc version, its fine in my view. --Indigo (talk) 18:27, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Mention modprobe -l

Does anybody else besides me think that it would be helpful to mention modprobe -l to get a list of loaded modules/drivers and that ath9k is already included in the kernel at the beginning of First steps or Drivers and Firmware section? In my case (I have a Thinkpad x61) I didn't have to install any additional drivers, so I could proceed immediately to Manual setup and everything worked perfectly.
--Bhobbit 01:03, 7 June 2009 (EDT)

Overall article readability (notes and split)

There is no doubt this article is very rich, but I find it a bit messy overall. At first sight, the newcomer may think managing wireless is a real odyssey, whereas it may be 2 simple steps for most users.

  • More than 50% of the article is dedicated to specific drivers installation. Perhaps it would be worth moving the whole section to a dedicated page, leaving only generic install guidelines here.
  • I've found 21 Note templates. Too much imho, it makes different sections and code lines harder to distinguish, and thus diminishes article's overall readability. Some of them definitely do not deserve a template, they should be written as is.

Still I won't say there is no doubt these 2 changes would make the article really better. So feel free to discuss!

-- Ambrevar (talk) 10:27, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Auto-connect if dropped or changed location Wicd

I tested this with wicd and this didn't work (with my raspberry pi and an ASUS USB-N10 adaptor). Once the connection was dropped the device didn't even search for other networks (the light at the adaptor didn't blink).

I now tried again with netcfg and that works like a charm, so it has nothing to do with my hardware. Are there others who are experiencing the same problem?
-- Warddr (talk) 15:17, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Splitting the page

Regarding the note on top of the page, what about moving Wireless_Setup#Part_I:_Identify_Card.2FInstall_Driver to separate page, for example Wireless Setup/Hardware Support? That page would be focused on troubleshooting connection problems, installing drivers problems, and hardware support in general. Perhaps it would even make sense to merge some short dedicated pages into this one. What do you think? -- Lahwaacz (talk) 19:13, 1 August 2013 (UTC)