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== A bit Outdated ==
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== Lock screen on suspend ==
  
The wiki page is a bit outdated, nothing serious though. I'll fix once I get some free time, unless somebody is faster than me.
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[[Xfce#Lock the screen]] gives an introduction to screen locking, but I can't get it to work with xfce4-power-manager on resuming from suspend. I've found little on this [https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=180985] [https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/2eyt80/xfce_slock_not_locking_screen_when_suspending/] and an old bug for Xfce 4.8. [https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=738124]. Locking via {{ic|Ctrl+Alt+L}} works as expected (slock). Can others reproduce, and if yes, should I investigate further and file a bug upstream? Perhaps this could be related to the light-locker transition (where I use [[xinitrc]]). -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 10:52, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Untill then: tha base package has changed, it includes tumbler and thunar-volman.
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: This functionality works fine for me but I use {{Pkg|gnome-screensaver}}. This might be an issue for specific screen lockers as opposed to a general Xfce issue. I notice that there is an alternative "lock screen before sleep" option under ''Applications'' -> ''Settings'' -> ''Session and Startup'' -> ''Advanced''. Perhaps that works where the xfpm option does not? -- [[User:Chazza|Chazza]] ([[User talk:Chazza|talk]]) 11:05, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
  
: I fixed the thunar-volman issue, by editing the Removable Devices section. [[User:Liquen|Liquen]] ([[User talk:Liquen|talk]]) 21:16, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
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::Indeed, it works with gnome-screensaver. It even uses gnome-screensaver when I symlink slock in /usr/local/bin to xflock4 (though the shortcut and menu do respect xflock4). Looking through the source, xfpm is supposed to use xflock4 though [http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-power-manager/tree/common/xfpm-common.c#n58], so not sure what's happening here. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 06:04, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
  
== Archiver Installing ==
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:::It's worth taking a look at what xflock4 is actually doing here - it's just a shell script. As can be seen from the first for loop, it will try to execute {{ic|xscreensaver-command -lock}} and {{ic|gnome-screensaver-command --lock}} in that order and it will exit. Only if neither of those can be executed will it move on to deal with xclock and slock. So xfpm's behaviour is correct here.
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:::Edit: Whoops, misread. Yes I see the problem here, the symlink isn't being respected. Not sure why that would be the case.
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:::Edit2: The lock screen panel action button first tries to find the program in path before executing.[http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/tree/plugins/actions/actions.c#n868] The power manager doesn't. That's probably the source of the inconsistency. -- [[User:Chazza|Chazza]] ([[User talk:Chazza|talk]]) 08:01, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
  
When installing xfce onto a fresh Arch system, one of the programs in the xfce-goodies package (might be thunar-archiver-plugin or something along those lines) requires the additional installation of a  archiving program such as xarchiver or ark etc. Perhaps this is worth a note? [[User:Hozza|hozza]] ([[User talk:Hozza|talk]]) 07:37, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
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::::No activity since mid July - was a decision reached on this? -- [[User:Chazza|Chazza]] ([[User talk:Chazza|talk]]) 16:34, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
:I second this. When you install {{Pkg|thunar-archive-plugin}}, a post-install message is printed out stating that you should "please install xarchiver, squeeze, file-roller or ark to use the plugin". Not everyone pays attention to those messages (myself included, sometimes), and it seems reasonable to repeat the message in the wiki. Anyone else? [[User:Ichimonji10|Ichimonji10]] ([[User talk:Ichimonji10|talk]]) 02:07, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
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::Well, we already have [[Thunar#Thunar Archive Plugin]]. In my opinion that's enough, but let's wait for more responses. -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 15:08, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
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:::Aaaah. Yes, I agree: [[Thunar#Thunar Archive Plugin]] is enough, and there's no need to repeat information. In fact, the [[Xfce#Thunar_not_displaying_Thumbnail_Images]] section now seems unnecessary. [[User:Ichimonji10|Ichimonji10]] ([[User talk:Ichimonji10|talk]]) 07:51, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
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::::Oh yeah, [[Xfce#Thunar_not_displaying_Thumbnail_Images]] is clearly redundant and could be removed. -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 06:45, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
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:::::Section removed. I also added an [[Xfce#Installation]] tip suggesting that users read the [[Thunar]] wiki page if they want niceties such as archive extraction, but did not install {{Grp|xfce4-goodies}}. I think this discussion has acheived it's goal. Unless anyone has something to add, I will <strike>close</strike> the discussion in a couple days. [[User:Ichimonji10|Ichimonji10]] ([[User talk:Ichimonji10|talk]]) 15:21, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
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==<s>Install new Icon section</s>==
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:::::I couldn't get this working outside gnome-screensaver/x-screensaver, even when putting a symbolic link directly in /usr/bin, but I'm afraid I didn't get the chance to contact upstream yet. -- [[User:Alad|Alad]] ([[User talk:Alad|talk]]) 11:16, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
Copy From [[ArchWiki:Reports]]: should first look if there is a package for that theme, and also consider whether creating a PKGBUILD before extracting to /usr/share/icons. -- [[User:Fengchao|Fengchao]] ([[User talk:Fengchao|talk]]) 02:35, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
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:Notes added to the article, closing. -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 11:47, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
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==<strike>Shutdown Permissions</strike>==
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A new section has recently been added: [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Xfce&curid=2430&diff=254850&oldid=254611&rcid=365023]. I can power off my system from Xfce's logout menu without being member of the 'power' group, can somebody else confirm? -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 14:54, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
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:Some context: I just re-installed Arch yesterday (or was it two days ago?). I'm not using any sort of login manager on my PC. Instead, I just log in to a tty concole, then execute {{ic|startx}} to start xfce. You can see my current {{ic|~/.xinitrc}} [http://pastebin.com/S0LAbD4E here]. [[User:Ichimonji10|Ichimonji10]] ([[User talk:Ichimonji10|talk]]) 02:02, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
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::I can shutdown the computer without being in any groups. I run Xfce through [[LightDM]]. -- [[User:Lonaowna|Lonaowna]] ([[User talk:Lonaowna|talk]]) 09:20, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
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:::@Ichimonji10: I'm not using a login manager either, and my xinitrc is identical to yours. Did you use the latest ISO for installing Arch? Are you sure your system is up to date? Are you sure the mirror you're using is synchronized? I invite you to ask for clarifications on the forums and then report here. -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 10:11, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
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::::@Lonaowna and @Kynikos, thanks for the feedback. I must've reasoned incorrectly while installing my system up a couple days ago. Today, I removed myself from the {{ic|power}} group (then logged back in), which means that I only belong to the {{ic|wheel}} and {{ic|ichimonji10}} groups. Sure enough, I can still power off the machine. I'll go ahead and nuke the section I added. Oh, and @Kynikos... you give the most wonderfully polite criticism. Seriously. "I invite you to ask for clarifications..." [[User:Ichimonji10|Ichimonji10]] ([[User talk:Ichimonji10|talk]]) 01:59, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
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:::::Lol, note English is not my first language, a native speaker would surely have been able to find a more common expression ^^ Glad you solved your problem, thanks for contributing. -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 14:47, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
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Latest revision as of 11:25, 29 September 2015

Lock screen on suspend

Xfce#Lock the screen gives an introduction to screen locking, but I can't get it to work with xfce4-power-manager on resuming from suspend. I've found little on this [1] [2] and an old bug for Xfce 4.8. [3]. Locking via Ctrl+Alt+L works as expected (slock). Can others reproduce, and if yes, should I investigate further and file a bug upstream? Perhaps this could be related to the light-locker transition (where I use xinitrc). -- Alad (talk) 10:52, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

This functionality works fine for me but I use gnome-screensaver. This might be an issue for specific screen lockers as opposed to a general Xfce issue. I notice that there is an alternative "lock screen before sleep" option under Applications -> Settings -> Session and Startup -> Advanced. Perhaps that works where the xfpm option does not? -- Chazza (talk) 11:05, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Indeed, it works with gnome-screensaver. It even uses gnome-screensaver when I symlink slock in /usr/local/bin to xflock4 (though the shortcut and menu do respect xflock4). Looking through the source, xfpm is supposed to use xflock4 though [4], so not sure what's happening here. -- Alad (talk) 06:04, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
It's worth taking a look at what xflock4 is actually doing here - it's just a shell script. As can be seen from the first for loop, it will try to execute xscreensaver-command -lock and gnome-screensaver-command --lock in that order and it will exit. Only if neither of those can be executed will it move on to deal with xclock and slock. So xfpm's behaviour is correct here.
Edit: Whoops, misread. Yes I see the problem here, the symlink isn't being respected. Not sure why that would be the case.
Edit2: The lock screen panel action button first tries to find the program in path before executing.[5] The power manager doesn't. That's probably the source of the inconsistency. -- Chazza (talk) 08:01, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
No activity since mid July - was a decision reached on this? -- Chazza (talk) 16:34, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
I couldn't get this working outside gnome-screensaver/x-screensaver, even when putting a symbolic link directly in /usr/bin, but I'm afraid I didn't get the chance to contact upstream yet. -- Alad (talk) 11:16, 19 September 2015 (UTC)