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===<s>Wrapping</s>===
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Wrapping seems working now, thanks!
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Another issue is, I'm confused about the Language list, I don't think it's sorted by ASCII code at the moment, would you please help to double check and sort it out?
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Like Czech is start with 142, simplified chinese is start with code 135, japanese is start with 145, but simplified chinese is far behide...
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Refer to: [http://www.asciitable.com/]
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Thanks in advance,
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--[[User:Flydragon|flydragon]] 18:48, 12 January 2010 (EST)
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:I've based the order upon the Wikipedia table sorting algorithm. Visit [[Help:i18n#Languages]] and try sorting the table by "Localized" spellings to see where this comes from (click the >< box beside the column heading.)
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:I'd gladly change the order if this is incorrect, but the ordering must not be "arbitrary".
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:-- [[User:Pointone|pointone]] 19:33, 12 January 2010 (EST)
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Not sure why it's sorting like that, but ok, I give up. Sorry I changed it at first, I didn't know how it sorted, I'm new here, :)
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Forget about it then, cheers,
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--[[User:Flydragon|flydragon]] 06:04, 13 January 2010 (EST)
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:I value your input, and agree that the current ordering is not ideal. The reason this is happening, I believe, is because the Wikipedia algorithm simply looks at the ordinal value; it does not perform "proper" [http://unicode.org/reports/tr10/ unicode sorting], which is actually more difficult than it seems.
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:I'll continue looking into this, but like I said, I need something to point to and say "This is why it's in that order" rather than just changing things where I ''think'' they ought to be. Any additional references or information you could provide would be greatly appreciated.
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:-- [[User:Pointone|pointone]] 08:01, 13 January 2010 (EST)
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I need help about this, the language list is not wrap line, it's so long that it goes out of my browser window.
 
I need help about this, the language list is not wrap line, it's so long that it goes out of my browser window.
 
I tried in sandbox to break the line, but seems all doesn't work, including <br>
 
I tried in sandbox to break the line, but seems all doesn't work, including <br>
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Thanks,
 
Thanks,
 
--[[User:Flydragon|flydragon]] 17:31, 12 January 2010 (EST)
 
--[[User:Flydragon|flydragon]] 17:31, 12 January 2010 (EST)
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:Could you please confirm what browser you're using? I've just tested and have the same problem you describe when viewing the page with Internet Explorer. It is rendered properly via Opera, though.
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:I'll play around with this now that I can reproduce the problem...
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:-- [[User:Pointone|pointone]] 18:19, 12 January 2010 (EST)
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I'm using chrome in windows, I tried chromium in ArchLinux and Firefox 3.5 too, all Not wrapping.
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--[[User:Flydragon|flydragon]] 18:42, 12 January 2010 (EST)
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Wrapping seems working now, thanks!
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--[[User:Flydragon|flydragon]] 19:09, 12 January 2010 (EST)
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==<s>Collapse button/integrate with preferences</s>==
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Either a button that collapses the template, or integration with user preferences; just a way to hide it for people that won't use it. [[User:Dres|Dres]] 22:12, 15 January 2010 (EST)
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:A terrific idea, but one that requires changes to the underlying website code. Please consider opening a feature request on the bug tracker. -- [[User:Pointone|pointone]] 16:23, 1 March 2010 (EST)
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::This template is now deprecated, it can't collapse more than that ;) Closing. -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 20:17, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
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== <s>printable version</s> ==
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Hi,
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it could be great if this template is removed in the printable version. It is useless and it adds links in packages such as arch-wiki-doc
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it seems that a <nowiki>{{noprint}}</nowiki> code make it.
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[[User:Spip|Spip]] 09:23, 22 August 2010 (EDT)
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:Good suggestion. Implemented! -- [[User:Pointone|pointone]] 21:28, 22 August 2010 (EDT)
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::thanks ! [[User:Spip|Spip]] 13:06, 23 August 2010 (EDT)
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==<s>Document 2nd argument usage</s>==
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This template accepts a second optional argument in case the English article has the _(English) suffix (or possibly some other special suffix): probably this should be briefly documented in the Usage section. -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 04:51, 30 May 2011 (EDT)
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:Template is deprecated, closing. -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 20:17, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Revision as of 20:17, 15 June 2012

Wrapping

Wrapping seems working now, thanks! Another issue is, I'm confused about the Language list, I don't think it's sorted by ASCII code at the moment, would you please help to double check and sort it out? Like Czech is start with 142, simplified chinese is start with code 135, japanese is start with 145, but simplified chinese is far behide... Refer to: [1] Thanks in advance, --flydragon 18:48, 12 January 2010 (EST)

I've based the order upon the Wikipedia table sorting algorithm. Visit Help:i18n#Languages and try sorting the table by "Localized" spellings to see where this comes from (click the >< box beside the column heading.)
I'd gladly change the order if this is incorrect, but the ordering must not be "arbitrary".
-- pointone 19:33, 12 January 2010 (EST)

Not sure why it's sorting like that, but ok, I give up. Sorry I changed it at first, I didn't know how it sorted, I'm new here, :) Forget about it then, cheers, --flydragon 06:04, 13 January 2010 (EST)

I value your input, and agree that the current ordering is not ideal. The reason this is happening, I believe, is because the Wikipedia algorithm simply looks at the ordinal value; it does not perform "proper" unicode sorting, which is actually more difficult than it seems.
I'll continue looking into this, but like I said, I need something to point to and say "This is why it's in that order" rather than just changing things where I think they ought to be. Any additional references or information you could provide would be greatly appreciated.
-- pointone 08:01, 13 January 2010 (EST)

I need help about this, the language list is not wrap line, it's so long that it goes out of my browser window. I tried in sandbox to break the line, but seems all doesn't work, including

How to get the list to 2 lines, so people can easily see the other languages?

Thanks, --flydragon 17:31, 12 January 2010 (EST)

Could you please confirm what browser you're using? I've just tested and have the same problem you describe when viewing the page with Internet Explorer. It is rendered properly via Opera, though.
I'll play around with this now that I can reproduce the problem...
-- pointone 18:19, 12 January 2010 (EST)

I'm using chrome in windows, I tried chromium in ArchLinux and Firefox 3.5 too, all Not wrapping. --flydragon 18:42, 12 January 2010 (EST)

Wrapping seems working now, thanks! --flydragon 19:09, 12 January 2010 (EST)

Collapse button/integrate with preferences

Either a button that collapses the template, or integration with user preferences; just a way to hide it for people that won't use it. Dres 22:12, 15 January 2010 (EST)

A terrific idea, but one that requires changes to the underlying website code. Please consider opening a feature request on the bug tracker. -- pointone 16:23, 1 March 2010 (EST)
This template is now deprecated, it can't collapse more than that ;) Closing. -- Kynikos (talk) 20:17, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

printable version

Hi,

it could be great if this template is removed in the printable version. It is useless and it adds links in packages such as arch-wiki-doc

it seems that a {{noprint}} code make it.

Spip 09:23, 22 August 2010 (EDT)

Good suggestion. Implemented! -- pointone 21:28, 22 August 2010 (EDT)
thanks ! Spip 13:06, 23 August 2010 (EDT)

Document 2nd argument usage

This template accepts a second optional argument in case the English article has the _(English) suffix (or possibly some other special suffix): probably this should be briefly documented in the Usage section. -- Kynikos 04:51, 30 May 2011 (EDT)

Template is deprecated, closing. -- Kynikos (talk) 20:17, 15 June 2012 (UTC)