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Feel free to leave comments about my wiki edits or other points of interest. --[[User:Indigo|Indigo]] ([[User talk:Indigo|talk]]) 17:43, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
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Feel free to leave comments about my wiki edits or other points of interest. Please note I have changed preferences so that the account does not automatically watch articles I edit. --[[User:Indigo|Indigo]] ([[User talk:Indigo|talk]]) 23:31, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
  
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== Comments ==
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== <s>lsdesktopf man page</s> ==
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Hi!
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I am done with my first [https://github.com/AndyCrowd/list-desktop-files/blob/master/man-page.test man-page.test] for lsdesktopf. It is just a first outcast. Thank you for your time.
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Andy Crowd - [[wikipedia:蔡依林|蔡依林]] 17:52, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
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:Ok, cool. Give me some days, I look at it and get back to you. --[[User:Indigo|Indigo]] ([[User talk:Indigo|talk]]) 18:03, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
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:Alright, I had a go at it. I uploaded the result [https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5b7924e1fd7d36358df40338f41a6fda here] for you to pick up. As a general comment: A bit unusual is that you use two dashes for the short form options, but I'm sure you had your reason for it.
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:If any questions, just ask. --[[User:Indigo|Indigo]] ([[User talk:Indigo|talk]]) 21:11, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
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:: Thank you very much! I will translate into another languages now. I am using Mageia Linux at work and Arch Linux at home and Mageia is a little more sensitive to man pages designs. In Mageia Linux to read man page when in it is not in a default location must be used {{ic|less -R}} but in Arch Linux enough with {{ic|man -l}} that is not supported but Mageia.
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:: Andy Crowd - [[wikipedia:蔡依林|蔡依林]] 06:33, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
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:::You're welcome. Viewing it on Mageia should also work with {{ic|man ./page}}. If you later create a package for the script and have a user install it, man pages for user-install usually go to /usr/local/share/man (admin install /usr/share/man). Mageia should find it there as well. --[[User:Indigo|Indigo]] ([[User talk:Indigo|talk]]) 07:10, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
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== <s>Looking for advice, WSZ skins</s> ==
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I don't want write about it on forum but I am looking for advice. I wrote about it here [[Talk:VLC_media_player]]. I wrote a script that can download wsz skins that late is possible to symlink into desired directories, but about publishing it in AUR might be good or bad idea?
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:Hi, I replied directly at  [[Talk:VLC_media_player]], better place for it. --[[User:Indigo|Indigo]] ([[User talk:Indigo|talk]]) 11:29, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
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== wipe-safe-at ==
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Hi! If you don't mind and have time then can you help with my second man page? I have cleaned up the code in the script with necessary comments and also wrote much about code in the man page, I don't know if it is a good idea but for them who want to edit and customize the script it might be useful.
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[https://github.com/AndyCrowd/safe-disk-wiper/blob/master/man-page.wipe,txt man-page]
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(Andy Crowd - [[wikipedia:蔡依林|蔡依林]] 17:33, 29 April 2016 (UTC)).
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:Hi, sure, I'll reply here when I had time to look at it. --[[User:Indigo|Indigo]] ([[User talk:Indigo|talk]]) 08:12, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
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:Hi, I had a look at your manpage for the tool. A number of the options don't make sense for me, i.e. I regard them as misleading. Examples of what I think is misleading:
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# --order mentions some command shortcuts (ddr, ddz, cprs,cpz) but these are explained nowhere.
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# With --show-me you require the user to use a "-e NO_DRY" .. well, have a look what [[w:Dry_run_(testing)]] usually means for a tool. Your usage of --no-dry-run (also "$NO_DRY" mentioned later in the example output) is - to my understanding - totally contrary to regular usage.
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# What does --safety=2/max (default) result in, if the tool "will stop if at least one partition is mounted"? Of course there is at least one partition mounted (/).
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:I think your tool is more a hack for yourself to perform wipe actions you frequently perform. I don't see really how a user can benefit from the wiping part, because if a user understands the bash methods output in the first place, it is simpler to perform to create a dd command than to figure the method you define. Overall, I don't think you should package the tool as is (personal opinion, do as you wish of course). It does not make things simpler for a user.
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:The main benefit of the tool is to provide a wrapper around dd, so that no mounted partitions can be wiped by error. Ok, but that does not require such complicated scripting, you have already contributed [[Securely wipe disk/Tips and tricks#Prevent wiping mounted partitions]] for that, which users can [[Alias]] around dd, if they so prefer.
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:I can improve the english of the manpage, but with misleading options that does not mean users get help. So, I'd rather not do that. Have a think about it how to proceed. --[[User:Indigo|Indigo]] ([[User talk:Indigo|talk]]) 20:19, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 20:19, 1 May 2016

Feel free to leave comments about my wiki edits or other points of interest. Please note I have changed preferences so that the account does not automatically watch articles I edit. --Indigo (talk) 23:31, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Comments

lsdesktopf man page

Hi! I am done with my first man-page.test for lsdesktopf. It is just a first outcast. Thank you for your time.

Andy Crowd - 蔡依林 17:52, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Ok, cool. Give me some days, I look at it and get back to you. --Indigo (talk) 18:03, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Alright, I had a go at it. I uploaded the result here for you to pick up. As a general comment: A bit unusual is that you use two dashes for the short form options, but I'm sure you had your reason for it.
If any questions, just ask. --Indigo (talk) 21:11, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
Thank you very much! I will translate into another languages now. I am using Mageia Linux at work and Arch Linux at home and Mageia is a little more sensitive to man pages designs. In Mageia Linux to read man page when in it is not in a default location must be used less -R but in Arch Linux enough with man -l that is not supported but Mageia.
Andy Crowd - 蔡依林 06:33, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
You're welcome. Viewing it on Mageia should also work with man ./page. If you later create a package for the script and have a user install it, man pages for user-install usually go to /usr/local/share/man (admin install /usr/share/man). Mageia should find it there as well. --Indigo (talk) 07:10, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Looking for advice, WSZ skins

I don't want write about it on forum but I am looking for advice. I wrote about it here Talk:VLC_media_player. I wrote a script that can download wsz skins that late is possible to symlink into desired directories, but about publishing it in AUR might be good or bad idea?

Hi, I replied directly at Talk:VLC_media_player, better place for it. --Indigo (talk) 11:29, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

wipe-safe-at

Hi! If you don't mind and have time then can you help with my second man page? I have cleaned up the code in the script with necessary comments and also wrote much about code in the man page, I don't know if it is a good idea but for them who want to edit and customize the script it might be useful. man-page (Andy Crowd - 蔡依林 17:33, 29 April 2016 (UTC)).

Hi, sure, I'll reply here when I had time to look at it. --Indigo (talk) 08:12, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi, I had a look at your manpage for the tool. A number of the options don't make sense for me, i.e. I regard them as misleading. Examples of what I think is misleading:
  1. --order mentions some command shortcuts (ddr, ddz, cprs,cpz) but these are explained nowhere.
  2. With --show-me you require the user to use a "-e NO_DRY" .. well, have a look what w:Dry_run_(testing) usually means for a tool. Your usage of --no-dry-run (also "$NO_DRY" mentioned later in the example output) is - to my understanding - totally contrary to regular usage.
  3. What does --safety=2/max (default) result in, if the tool "will stop if at least one partition is mounted"? Of course there is at least one partition mounted (/).
I think your tool is more a hack for yourself to perform wipe actions you frequently perform. I don't see really how a user can benefit from the wiping part, because if a user understands the bash methods output in the first place, it is simpler to perform to create a dd command than to figure the method you define. Overall, I don't think you should package the tool as is (personal opinion, do as you wish of course). It does not make things simpler for a user.
The main benefit of the tool is to provide a wrapper around dd, so that no mounted partitions can be wiped by error. Ok, but that does not require such complicated scripting, you have already contributed Securely wipe disk/Tips and tricks#Prevent wiping mounted partitions for that, which users can Alias around dd, if they so prefer.
I can improve the english of the manpage, but with misleading options that does not mean users get help. So, I'd rather not do that. Have a think about it how to proceed. --Indigo (talk) 20:19, 1 May 2016 (UTC)