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==Keypress==
 
Hey, about edits like [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Wifi_Radar&diff=prev&oldid=168201] or [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Xmonad&diff=next&oldid=168204] I'd like to remind you that we haven't discussed yet about replacing [[Template:Keypress]] with [[Template:Ic]], although I wanted to do that indeed, since I support the deprecation of Keypress. Probably the best place to start such a discussion is in [[Help_talk:Style/Migration_to_new_Code_formatting_templates]]. -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 12:30, 1 November 2011 (EDT)
 
Update: discussion started at [[Help_talk:Style/Migration_to_new_Code_formatting_templates#Template:Keypress]]. -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 13:33, 1 November 2011 (EDT)
 
:I just added some issues and suggestions I have with the current [[Template:Keypress]] on [[Help_talk:Style/Migration_to_new_Code_formatting_templates#Template:Keypress|Help_talk:Style]]. I'm glad to see this being discussed! :) -- [[User:Jstjohn|Jstjohn]] 15:57, 1 November 2011 (EDT)
 
 
 
==Blank lines==
 
==Blank lines==
 
Ahem... it's me again :) About [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Broadcom_wireless&action=historysubmit&diff=168280&oldid=165378] and [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=System_Encryption_with_LUKS&curid=2625&diff=168389&oldid=168233#.2Fetc.2Ffstab] you should be aware of [[Help:Style#Blank_lines]]: please do not use multiple blank lines to space out sections, it just produces bad html code (an empty paragraph), while if you think sections need more white space above them, you should request to add more margin-top to <nowiki><h#></nowiki> tags on the bug tracker (possibly discussing that first). -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 08:49, 2 November 2011 (EDT)
 
Ahem... it's me again :) About [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Broadcom_wireless&action=historysubmit&diff=168280&oldid=165378] and [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=System_Encryption_with_LUKS&curid=2625&diff=168389&oldid=168233#.2Fetc.2Ffstab] you should be aware of [[Help:Style#Blank_lines]]: please do not use multiple blank lines to space out sections, it just produces bad html code (an empty paragraph), while if you think sections need more white space above them, you should request to add more margin-top to <nowiki><h#></nowiki> tags on the bug tracker (possibly discussing that first). -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 08:49, 2 November 2011 (EDT)
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::-- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 10:52, 3 November 2011 (EDT)
 
::-- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] 10:52, 3 November 2011 (EDT)
  
== Wikipedia template ==
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==Unused redirects==
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Regarding [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Apache%2C_PHP%2C_and_MySQL&diff=285942&oldid=9127], the fact that a redirect is not linked to (internally) is not generally enough to justify its deletion. Unless its title is completely meaningless, redirects:
  
I noticed that (as part of [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=LaTeX&action=historysubmit&diff=174610&oldid=172260 this edit]) you converted a use of the [[Template:Wikipedia|Wikipedia template]] to a simple inter-wiki link. Is there a reason why you did that? ~ [[User:Filam|Filam]] 21:09, 16 December 2011 (EST)
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* can also be used to make articles appear in search results for terms that don't contain their actual title (e.g. searching for "Apache" doesn't show [[LAMP]] among the title-matching results)
:Oh, I realize why I removed that now. I quickly clicked on the "Wikipedia" link which just goes to the Wikipedia main page, and I assumed it must've been broken. For some reason, I didn't see the second link. Oops! I just reverted it back to how it was before. Good catch! -- [[User:Jstjohn|Jstjohn]] 03:00, 19 December 2011 (EST)
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* are placeholders that help preventing the creation of duplicated articles
::Ah, no problem. For a moment there I thought the template might be deprecated in favor of some other style. Anyway, thanks for the revert! ~ [[User:Filam|Filam]] 09:43, 19 December 2011 (EST)
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* can be used to spell a title with different capitalizations (e.g. to help searches)
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* may be referenced from external sources
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* may be used in the future to link to the target article if the wording fits a particular sentence better than the actual title
  
==<s>Interlanguage links</s>==
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There may be more reasons to keep them, while deleting gives no advantages, as redirects don't pollute wiki statistics :)
Hi, I've just undone one of your edits: [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=GNOME_Package_Guidelines&diff=next&oldid=209427]
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Not having to move all the translations of a page when moving an English article is one of the advantages of interlanguage links over the old [[Template:i18n]] :)
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-- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 02:28, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
  
-- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 09:30, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
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:Ah, I forgot about their usefulness for searches and preventing duplicated articles. Sorry about that!
:I think I made that edit so the "(Redirected from Gnome Package Guidelines)" text wouldn't appear. In other words, visiting that page from one of the related articles would send you directly there without needing the redirect. Am I not supposed to make a change like that?
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:-- [[User:Jstjohn|Jstjohn]] ([[User talk:Jstjohn|talk]]) 05:07, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
:Or should I have also updated the capitalization on the Italian language page at the same time?
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:-- [[User:Jstjohn|Jstjohn]] ([[User talk:Jstjohn|talk]]) 01:52, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
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::Hehe the problem is that [[:it:GNOME Package Guidelines]] doesn't exist :) You renamed only the English article, but the Italian one was left to the previous name (in fact it's no longer required to move all the translations of an article at once).
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::No worries, keep up the good work!! -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 06:28, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
::Maybe you wanted to edit [[Gnome Package Guidelines (Italiano)]] instead, updating the [[:en:Gnome Package Guidelines]] interlanguage link to [[:en:GNOME Package Guidelines]].
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::Interlanguage links are a new feature for everybody here (except users used to Wikipedia or other wikis), so it's normal that we have to learn how to use them correctly ;)
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::-- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 10:16, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
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::Come to think of it, is it possible that you were thinking that interlanguage links work so that for example [[:it:GNOME Package Guidelines]] means "on the Italian article, use 'GNOME Package Guidelines' to link here"? Obviously that's not how they work (although it would be great :) ) [[:it:GNOME Package Guidelines]] simply means "on this article, add a link to the Italian article 'GNOME Package Guidelines'".
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::-- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 10:24, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
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:::Ah, these links make sense now. What I was trying to fix before was the link that appears in the "Package creation guidelines" box on the English version of the page. I just figured out how that box is created, and my initial attempt at fixing it was way off target. I just went and fixed the template for it. :)
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:::-- [[User:Jstjohn|Jstjohn]] ([[User talk:Jstjohn|talk]]) 20:47, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
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::::Yep, I too understand now ^^ Closing -- [[User:Kynikos|Kynikos]] ([[User talk:Kynikos|talk]]) 10:49, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
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Blank lines

Ahem... it's me again :) About [1] and [2] you should be aware of Help:Style#Blank_lines: please do not use multiple blank lines to space out sections, it just produces bad html code (an empty paragraph), while if you think sections need more white space above them, you should request to add more margin-top to <h#> tags on the bug tracker (possibly discussing that first). -- Kynikos 08:49, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

I even checked Help:Editing before I added those extra blank lines too! I guess I should have checked Help:Style instead. :P To hopefully prevent others from making the same mistake I made, I added a link to Help:Style#Blank_lines on Help:Editing#Line_breaks. This is the diff of the edit I made.
Would it better to have a discussion about adding more margin-top to <h#> on the forums or on Help_talk:Style? -- Jstjohn 00:32, 3 November 2011 (EDT)
Help:Editing, Help:Template, Help:Reading and probably other articles now somewhat duplicate Help:Style in some parts, that's something that needs to be fixed.
About heading margins, try to start a forum thread, it's more likely that web developers will find the discussion. Another solution to increase the visibility of headings may be giving a border-bottom also to h3, h4 and perhaps h5 and h6 ? I don't know...
-- Kynikos 10:52, 3 November 2011 (EDT)

Unused redirects

Regarding [3], the fact that a redirect is not linked to (internally) is not generally enough to justify its deletion. Unless its title is completely meaningless, redirects:

  • can also be used to make articles appear in search results for terms that don't contain their actual title (e.g. searching for "Apache" doesn't show LAMP among the title-matching results)
  • are placeholders that help preventing the creation of duplicated articles
  • can be used to spell a title with different capitalizations (e.g. to help searches)
  • may be referenced from external sources
  • may be used in the future to link to the target article if the wording fits a particular sentence better than the actual title

There may be more reasons to keep them, while deleting gives no advantages, as redirects don't pollute wiki statistics :)

-- Kynikos (talk) 02:28, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Ah, I forgot about their usefulness for searches and preventing duplicated articles. Sorry about that!
-- Jstjohn (talk) 05:07, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
No worries, keep up the good work!! -- Kynikos (talk) 06:28, 4 December 2013 (UTC)