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For myself, and my fellow Linux users (I know other people I have sent this to found it very useful), it's a quick & dirty guide to getting from booting the ISO to starting X. It cuts out all the verbiage and presents just the necessary commands. [[User:Ryanpcmcquen|Ryanpcmcquen]] ([[User talk:Ryanpcmcquen|talk]]) 15:54, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
 
For myself, and my fellow Linux users (I know other people I have sent this to found it very useful), it's a quick & dirty guide to getting from booting the ISO to starting X. It cuts out all the verbiage and presents just the necessary commands. [[User:Ryanpcmcquen|Ryanpcmcquen]] ([[User talk:Ryanpcmcquen|talk]]) 15:54, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:Sure, but it doesn't offer any explanation for what each step does, so new users don't learn anything (see [[The Arch Way]]), and these steps are specific to one setup (not all setups will even need or want X); why is this guide with no explanation or flexibility preferable to the official one which has both? [[User:Halosghost|Halosghost]] ([[User talk:Halosghost|talk]]) 15:58, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
 
:Sure, but it doesn't offer any explanation for what each step does, so new users don't learn anything (see [[The Arch Way]]), and these steps are specific to one setup (not all setups will even need or want X); why is this guide with no explanation or flexibility preferable to the official one which has both? [[User:Halosghost|Halosghost]] ([[User talk:Halosghost|talk]]) 15:58, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
 
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::I don't in any way intend this as a replacement for the official guide. Just a quick way to get going. You'd have to know quite a bit to get through it any way. And someone who is not even bothering to install X probably needs no guide. ;-) [[User:Ryanpcmcquen|Ryanpcmcquen]] ([[User talk:Ryanpcmcquen|talk]]) 16:03, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
I don't in any way intend this as a replacement for the official guide. Just a quick way to get going. You'd have to know quite a bit to get through it any way. And someone who is not even bothering to install X probably needs no guide. ;-)
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:::This, to me, sounds like exactly why it should be on a personal blog. It's not meant to be a guide really, just a quick reference. [[User:Halosghost|Halosghost]] ([[User talk:Halosghost|talk]]) 16:07, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
[[User:Ryanpcmcquen|Ryanpcmcquen]] ([[User talk:Ryanpcmcquen|talk]]) 16:03, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
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Why is this a thing?

First, if you'll look at the notice at the bottom of the page when editing, you'll notice that all documents posted here are considered to be released under the GNU Free Documentation License; so having that copyright notice is silly.

Second, seriously, why is this needed at all? We already have the Beginners' Guide and the official Guide; they make everything very clear (the Beginners' Guide actually explains more than I would ever need to install); I cannot see a reason for this page's existence. In my humble opinion, this post belongs on a blog. Halosghost (talk) 14:16, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

I completely agree and this should be removed!!!securitybreach (talk) 14:16, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

It should also be mentioned that there is little to no explanation given for any of the steps in the process; so you're just having users run commands without understanding them (counter to the Arch Way). Plus, the recommendation of use of things that should not be recommended (at least not explicitly instructing them to do so) to new users (e.g., AUR Helpers). Halosghost (talk) 15:28, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

That's fine, delete it if you must.Ryanpcmcquen (talk) 15:47, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
You seem to think that it serves a purpose. The point of this discussion is so that we can weigh the merits of its contribution (if any). If you feel that it serves a purpose, then say why. Halosghost (talk) 15:50, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

For myself, and my fellow Linux users (I know other people I have sent this to found it very useful), it's a quick & dirty guide to getting from booting the ISO to starting X. It cuts out all the verbiage and presents just the necessary commands. Ryanpcmcquen (talk) 15:54, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Sure, but it doesn't offer any explanation for what each step does, so new users don't learn anything (see The Arch Way), and these steps are specific to one setup (not all setups will even need or want X); why is this guide with no explanation or flexibility preferable to the official one which has both? Halosghost (talk) 15:58, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
I don't in any way intend this as a replacement for the official guide. Just a quick way to get going. You'd have to know quite a bit to get through it any way. And someone who is not even bothering to install X probably needs no guide. ;-) Ryanpcmcquen (talk) 16:03, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
This, to me, sounds like exactly why it should be on a personal blog. It's not meant to be a guide really, just a quick reference. Halosghost (talk) 16:07, 15 July 2013 (UTC)