Category talk:Digital signature
Latest comment: 12 March by Indigo in topic How to group this category?
How to group this category?
Given we have Category:OpenPGP for the OpenPGP article/group of implementations, and Category:Transport Layer Security with the analogue Transport Layer Security for everything OpenSSL/TLS related, what's the aim for this category (ping @Davezerave)?
-- Indigo (talk) 21:35, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- The new category is meant to collect all pages that concern themselves with creating digital signatures.
- Examples are articles doing so in all OpenPGP implementations (e.g. GnuPG, and sequoia-pgp, the SOP interfaces in Stateless OpenPGP) and also for creating data signatures using OpenSSL (e.g. for release artifacts) or other systems (e.g. signify). Davezerave (talk) 20:07, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Ok. I was asking to figure how we avoid duplication. For example, manually adding GnuPG to both categories (openpgp and digital signature) would be subject duplication. I read your all Category:OpenPGP implementations as all its assigned articles, hence I've changed its parent category with Special:diff/802129. While we lose a separate entry for OpenPGP in Category:Cryptography, it has the advantage that the subcategory is separated in its Category:Digital signature overview and (mainly) we don't have to assign some/most openpgp articles to both groups, and the selected additions like OpenSSL are clearly separated. Does this reflect the plan? --Indigo (talk) 12:37, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm, no not really.
- OpenPGP is used both for digital signatures *and* encryption (but there are other mechanisms to do his for either of these two topics!). The OpenPGP category is more suitable as a subcategory of Cryptography than a subcategory of only Digital Signature.
- Both Digital Signature and Encryption are suitable subcategories for Cryptography and as mentioned above, both of those topics can be assigned to other articles (not related to OpenPGP). Davezerave (talk) 18:12, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Ok. I was asking to figure how we avoid duplication. For example, manually adding GnuPG to both categories (openpgp and digital signature) would be subject duplication. I read your all Category:OpenPGP implementations as all its assigned articles, hence I've changed its parent category with Special:diff/802129. While we lose a separate entry for OpenPGP in Category:Cryptography, it has the advantage that the subcategory is separated in its Category:Digital signature overview and (mainly) we don't have to assign some/most openpgp articles to both groups, and the selected additions like OpenSSL are clearly separated. Does this reflect the plan? --Indigo (talk) 12:37, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, both Digital Signature and Encryption can be assigned independent of OpenPGP, that's not impeded. And, yes, both are subjects to be grouped under Cryptography academically, but I think its too academic for our purpose; most software implements specific protocols, those define the primary use case (category) and why applications depend on them. So, OpenPGP, TLS, OpenSSH, TLS, etc.
- What would be a search/use case that is better served by double-assigning Digital Signature and OpenPGP categories separately to these articles?
- --Indigo (talk) 19:42, 12 March 2024 (UTC)