Talk:Rip Audio CDs

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I'd like to preserve this article if possible. I believe this is a good reason because the article Optical_disc_drive is big. This discussion may even start a sub-discussion of the purview of that article, but for me, I'm going to keep the my comments to this article. I think this article is necessary because Digital Audio Extraction (DAE) in itself is a fairly detailed topic. For example, a number of encoders, extractors... exist in the repositories and a number of encoding file formats can be used that may be appropriate for a given situation. Also, I think this will continue to be a topic of interest... hence, having its own namespace will be of benefit. --Gen2ly

Well if you remove the script dump (it belongs in a gist, for example), little remains of the page. If you plan to expand on it, fine, but right now it might be just as well merged. -- Alad (talk) 21:35, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
The script is quite unintuitive and hardly accessible, so I did my own research, wrote my own script and discovered it's actually rather simple to rip an audio CD from audio data to tagging. I went through very simple steps described on this page: https://github.com/ResponSySS/xcdda/ . In short: cdparanoia -B rips to WAV files, cdrdao read-toc file.toc extracts TOC file, cueconvert (cuetools) turns TOC to CUE file and cuetag.sh (cuetools) handles the tagging from the CUE: you have fully tagged music files from the CD itself. The problem with cuetag.sh is it only handles MP3, FLAC or OGG. cdparanoia -B rips audio data to WAV files but then you have to convert them to either MP3, FLAC or OGG. I also think it's important to stress that tagging often can't be done properly from freeDB/cdDB/MusicBrainz database as it simply cannot contain all the CDs in the world, that's why this method can be "cleaner" (at least from my last experience). -- Responsys (talk) 11:21, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
cdparanoia has been obsolete for some time btw and afaik should not be recommended Talk:AudiobookUbone (talk) 09:28, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
Following Responsys comment from 2016, and script at https://github.com/ResponSySS/xcdda/, I wrote Rip Audio CDs#Testing the ease, or difficulty, of ripping. Regid (talk) 22:40, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, the article looks in a decent state now. Closing -- Alad (talk) 22:36, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

cdparanoia

It has been dead for many years. I don't know if having it as an example is a good idea. | Ubone (talk) 08:44, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

I saw a similar note somewhere when I was searching the web for a ripping issue. And cdparanoia -V of the current cdparanoia package prints cdparanoia III release 10.2 (September 11, 2008). On the other hand, it is still required by 47 packages from the official archives. Excluding the AUR, but including the same package from several arch archives, and including only make requirement. In fact, the whole subject of CDDA is probably out of date. Which is why an out of date package might still fit in. It could be cdparanoia started to die when CDDA did. And, while the cdda2wav command from Rip_Audio_CDs#From_physical_discs got stuck for me, cdparanoia painlessly succeeded to extract the audio tracks. Regid (talk) 19:20, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
There's little to add to this argument, in general if something still works, there's no reason to remove it from the wiki. Closing -- Alad (talk) 22:34, 5 March 2022 (UTC)