Talk:Getting involved

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Reorganization and emphasis on official projects

Proposal: User:Alad/Getting involved. The main changes are a restructure of the table of contents, moving of unofficial groups/projects to See also, and an expanded paragraph on Arch Linux projects (DeveloperWiki:Projects). I also propose moving Getting involved#FAQ to FAQ, using Related articles or an explicit reference instead. -- Alad (talk) 12:51, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Where did Getting_involved#ArchWiki_browsing go? Otherwise, it looks pretty good. -- Lahwaacz (talk) 13:06, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
I've flagged it for merging [1] [2] -- Alad (talk) 13:50, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
I moved the section along with Help:Searching to Help:Browsing. --Larivact (talk) 18:34, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
I disagree with renaming Community projects to See also because it's undescriptive. If you want to emphasize official projects, perhaps the section can be renamed to Unofficial projects? Furthermore I disagree with the removal of AUR helpers. Yes there has been some drama but they are some of the most used software developed by the community. I edited your draft to illustrate my suggestion. --Larivact (talk) 17:03, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
I don't know about the naming, but keeping AUR helpers on the page makes no sense. This year alone, there were 10+ new projects - not because people were encouraged by this wiki or otherwise, but merely because User:Spyhawk announced that he would no longer maintain pacaurAUR. None of those projects did or do anything new - they merely rewrote existing projects in a different language - and all of them continue the cycle of helpless users unaware of the AUR's unsupported nature, makepkg or even pacman, which taxes support channels accordingly.
All the while there are dozens of upstream bugs for the AUR that nobody takes a look at. (See the "dead end" section in [3].) Hence the emphasis on aurweb, not AUR helpers. Contributing to aurweb is the only meaningful way left to contribute to AUR helpers anyway, since besides what happens upstream, helpers are a 99% solved issue. -- Alad (talk) 09:49, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
Alright, I guess I focused too much on the Community projects section and lost track of the article title. --Larivact (talk) 11:40, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
Changes so far look good to me. I would like to see this merged. -- Svito (talk) 01:19, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
I've wanted to merge this for a while. Feel free to do so. -- Alad (talk) 18:08, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Merged, you can see on Special:Diff/542447/555594 I did not remove labels from those 2 sections that were removed and then re-added without labels. -- Svito (talk) 18:38, 17 November 2018 (UTC)