User talk:Grufo

pacman tips

1. Why do you think you need to change newlines to spaces?

2. I think that Archers are capable of creating trivial aliases and functions themselves.

-- Karol (talk) 19:24, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

@Karol

1. Because it doesn't work with newlines in an "alias" context. Try yourself!

2. I'm an "Archer" and know Bash, but I spent ten minutes to write that line. Do you think that a Wiki should tell everyone: «Ok, guy, find yourself the solution»?

--Grufo ^{[ contribs | talk ]} 19:39, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

1. Works here:

$ pacman -Qqdt
firefox
flashplugin
$ pacro
checking dependencies...

Targets (7):

Name            Old Version     New Version  Net Change

libevent        2.0.20-1                      -1,79 MiB
libnotify       0.7.5-1                       -0,26 MiB
mime-types      8-1                           -0,05 MiB
mozilla-common  1.4-3                         -0,02 MiB
nss             3.14-1                        -5,70 MiB
firefox         16.0.2-1                     -21,52 MiB
flashplugin     11.2.202.251-1               -20,83 MiB

Total Removed Size:     50,16 MiB

Do you want to remove these packages? [Y/n] n
$ type pacro
pacro is aliased to `/usr/bin/pacman -Qtdq > /dev/null && sudo /usr/bin/pacman -Rs $(/usr/bin/pacman -Qtdq)'

(I'm watching this page, so it's not necessary to edit my talk page to notify my of your response, but thanks anyway) -- Karol (talk) 20:21, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Your solution with newlines doesn't work on my computer :-( It works fine only with spaces.

I think that, since in a bash context a separator is a space and not a newline, an "universal" solution is to use spaces instead of newlines. But this is my opinion.--Grufo ^{[ contribs | talk ]} 20:30, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Do you get any errors when running sudo pacman -Rs $(pacman -Qqdt) in the terminal? What's the output of echo "$IFS" | cat -te? If you substitute the sed part with tr '\n' ' ', does it still work for you? -- Karol (talk) 21:09, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

@Karol

> Do you get any errors when running sudo pacman -Rs $(pacman -Qqdt) in the terminal?

No, out of alias context sudo pacman -Rs $(pacman -Qqdt) works

> What's the output of echo "$IFS" | cat -te?

What is $IFS?? However the output is:

^I$
$

> If you substitute the sed part with tr '\n' ' ', does it still work for you?

Substituting the sed part with tr '\n' ' ' it works fine!

--Grufo ^{[ contribs | talk ]} 19:54, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

IFS is the internal field separator, the default is a space, tab or newline. Not sure if you copied it verbatim, but the space seems to be missing:

$ IFS=$' \t\n'
$ echo "$IFS" | cat -te
 ^I$
$

That shouldn't matter though, as the problem is with the newlines and they're included in your IFS (it's the single '$' on the second line), as expected.

I'd like to sort this out, so please open a thread on the forums. Please provide sample output when using the alias.

Using either single quotes or double quotes and escaping the '$' in the alias both work fine here. -- Karol (talk) 22:31, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Has this been solved or silently forgotten? -- Lahwaacz (talk) 19:20, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Colors for "command not found"

Hi, I'd like to talk in Talk:Bash#Colors for "command not found" about [1]. -- Kynikos (talk) 03:00, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

pacman tips again

Hi, I'd like to ask for your opinion about this tip: (un)locking the pacman database manually is certainly hackish and can conflict with normal pacman operation. Therefore, this "tip" is IMO suitable at most for a troubleshooting section, not as a regular pacman tip. -- Lahwaacz (talk) 18:59, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

I simply guess that who edits his own .bashrc in order to put some paclock/pacunlock commands knows perfectly the consequences of calling them and also confirming them with some root password. Also, it is a very common accident for who regularly use gnome-settings-daemon-updates to turn off the computer during the regular db update operation performed by packagekit. Statistically speaking, I must launch that pacunlock command at least once every two months. But, maybe, we could put some warning in a comment within our .bashrc sample file… --Grufo ^{[ contribs | talk ]} 03:10, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

I see that there's much more to this than just a simple comment, for good readability it would be best to start a new (sub)section and keep these two aliases in a separate code block. -- Lahwaacz (talk) 07:07, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Done ;) --Grufo ^{[ contribs | talk ]} 14:00, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Well, I thought that you would also include why it can be useful... -- Lahwaacz (talk) 14:28, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Also done! :P --Grufo ^{[ contribs | talk ]} 15:47, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! -- Lahwaacz (talk) 19:54, 18 February 2014 (UTC)