Talk:Arch IRC channels

Matrix

Perhaps we should investigate a migration to matrix. We can bridge with irc so the move would be 100% transparent to existing users.

Aleccoder (talk) 18:23, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

This has been discussed multiple times and no consensus could be reached but Matrix already runs a freenode bridge: https://matrix.org/blog/2015/06/22/the-matrix-org-irc-bridge-now-bridges-all-of-freenode

But there would be no "migration" in either case, irc will stay.

Namarrgon (talk) 18:55, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Even if irc will stay for some users, I think there should be a noticeable mention of a Matrix channel. I added the Matrix article to related, but for some reason it was removed as unrelated by Alad. Then maybe just create a link to this article from main page? Because IRC channels are discoverable, while Matrix are not. I did not even know about existence of that channel, before I knew that Matrix exists and then intentionally searched if the Arch Linux channel exists.

Ashark (talk) 13:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

There is no official Arch Linux matrix channel, so this is why it was edited out as irrelevant. This is also why User:Alad removed the mentions of the telegram bridges.

--- NetSysFire (talk) 14:05, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Arch runs its own Matrix homeserver with IRC bridges for team members, but I don't think you're talking about this. I think the best way to make the options more discoverable would be to improve Matrix, List of applications/Internet#IRC clients and List of applications/Internet#Matrix clients somehow. — Lahwaacz (talk) 10:42, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

PR: waiting after asking a question

As per request to not edit directly, but discuss in the talk page, I propose the following change.

From

   You are expected to familiarize yourself with our [[Code of conduct]] and [[General guidelines#IRC]] before joining any of the official channels. For a list of commonly used abbreviations, see [[Arch terminology]] and [http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/abbreviations.html IRC Jargon].

To

   After asking a question, please wait a bit. There may be no person to answer instantly. The chat is a low traffic medium and at times no one speaks even for a hour. You are expected to familiarize yourself with our [[Code of conduct]] and [[General guidelines#IRC]] before joining any of the official channels. For a list of commonly used abbreviations, see [[Arch terminology]] and [http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/abbreviations.html IRC Jargon].

--Mpan (talk) 01:35, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Sounds good to me, while we're on the subject I don't see any link to Asking smart questions here or on General guidelines, it might be a good addition too? --Erus Iluvatar (talk) 06:19, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

This addition seems reasonable too. I’m just wondering, how to express it as a suggestion, not an order, and in a concise way. Forcing people to read too much text never works. --Mpan (talk) 09:52, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

I don't think that that belongs in the header of the page, 2. or 2.1 would be a better fit for this. People might not scroll down far enough to see it but perhaps we should think about moving 2/2.1 further up in the page. --Namarrgon (talk) 11:33, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

For some reason I didn’t notice the answer. I believe that entire paragraph should be kept together. I do not oppose the idea of moving it to 2, as long as it’s moved as a whole. But if we’re going to touch 2, perhaps this can be put in the 2’s intro, and the entire pastes fragment to its own section (2.1, shifting current 2.1 to 2.2 and so on)? --Mpan (talk) 21:10, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

PR: fixing/rmoving a dead link

The “IRC jargon” link produces a 404 and the situation seems to be like that since at least November 2022.

I propose either replacing the link with one from Archive.org, <https://web.archive.org/web/20220717172054/http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/abbreviations.html>, or removing the entire “For a list of commonly used abbreviations, see Arch terminology and IRC Jargon” sentence. The abbreviations are not limited to IRC and commonly found in internet discussions, so an average user likely already encountered those. I do not see much confusion on #archlinux either. When it comes, it is quickly resolved without causing trouble. --Mpan (talk) 17:43, 19 February 2023 (UTC)